Tips to Spot a FAKE DIAL of TUDOR Shield Submariner..

[Orchi]

Err buddies...as the general rule of thumb...for Orchi that is...
the quickest n easiest way to spot a FAKEEEE DIAL...
of any TUDOR Shield Submariner is this:-


"200m = 660ft"...(i.e. with spacing in between)...is generally a FAKEEE...!:dummy:

"200m=660 ft"...is generally...CORRECT...!:thumbsup:


How about calling this TIP...as one of Orchi's Rule of Thumb...?:chuckle::chuckle::dummy::dummy:


So to ALL TRF Buddies...
please post pictures of ALL your TUDOR Shield Submariner...
with these Rolex TUDOR Reference Models of Submariner...

7016/
76100
7021/
9401/
94010
9411/
94110
79090
79190

NOTE: The Earliest TUDOR Submariner with THE ROSE emblem...is EXCLUDED.

[Earl Camembert]

"200m = 660ft"...is generally a FAKEEE...!:dummy:

"200m=660 ft"...is generally...CORRECT...!:thumbsup:




"Generally" is the operative word and would make things very difficult.

[Orchi]

"Generally" is the operative word and would make things very difficult.Err buddy Earl...the England is NOT Orchi's mother tongue...
n neither is the FRANCE...

For Orchi...generally means...usually or commonly or ordinarily...:twit::chuckle:

[TimeToGo]

As always, Buddy Orchi:

Thanks!

[Safetrends]

Thank you for your valuable insight and keep posting. Again Thanks:thumbsup:

[Orchi]

Err buddies...the CORRECT Depth Rating...
"200m=660ft" on the Original Dial...
looks edzacary like this...
with NO Spacing besides..."="...:chuckle::chuckle:

[Earl Camembert]

Err buddy Earl...the England is NOT Orchi's mother tongue...
n neither is the FRANCE...

For Orchi...generally means...usually or commonly or ordinarily...:twit::chuckle:

But to sentence a watch to death we must be sure beyond a reasonable doubt.

"200m = 660ft" with spacing is fake no doubt?

[Orchi]

But to sentence a watch to death we must be sure beyond a reasonable doubt.

"200m = 660ft" with spacing is fake no doubt?Err buddy Earl...IF it's on a TUDOR Shield Submariner...
It's carved in stone...for Orchi that is...:twit::chuckle:

[onkyo]

Good info ... thanks buddy Orchi! :thumbsup:

[rfknauss]

Orchi, thanks for the tip! :thumbsup:

[Orchi]

Err buddies...thanks for the generous feedbacks...
ahem...please keep them coming this way...:thumbsup:

How come no one else posted any pics of the TUDOR Shield Submariner...yet?:thinking:

[mcjp6]

Thanks for the info.......How about for the mini sub, does this follow this guideline? picture attached and link here

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nice-Mens-80s-Rolex-Tudor-Prince-Oysterdate-watch_W0QQitemZ300407544031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_W atches?hash=item45f1af58df

[springer]

Hey Orchi, maybe nobody here has the fakes, hence no pics!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[Orchi]

Thanks for the info.......How about for the mini sub, does this follow this guideline? picture attached and link here

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nice-Mens-80s-Rolex-Tudor-Prince-Oysterdate-watch_W0QQitemZ300407544031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_W atches?hash=item45f1af58dfErr buddy Michael...that's a Lady Mini-Sub...
no worry...:thumbsup:

[blaine mattison]

hmmmm>>:thinking:

:cheers:

94110

[Earl Camembert]

Err buddies...the CORRECT Depth Rating...
"200m=660ft" on the Original Dial...
looks edzacary like this...
with NO Spacing besides..."="...:chuckle::chuckle:

Orchi has placed the second hand on the most important part of the dial.

http://www.rolexforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=123302&stc=1&d=1268760757

[Orchi]

Err buddies...ALL Good so far...:thumbsup:

Please keep the pictures of your Tudor Shield Submariner...coming:cheers:

Here are some GOOD examples excerpt from VRF Dial Archive...


http://dials.vrfimages.com/dials/TUDORS/TUDORSUBS/76100-117kSN,ca80s-tomvox1.jpg
http://dials.vrfimages.com/dials/TUDORS/TUDORSUBS/9411-0--7,99SN-Lumi%20dial+hands-%22T%22-JeffBieler.JPG
http://dials.vrfimages.com/dials/TUDORS/TUDORSUBS/94010-MNTudorSub,ca1982-Reintitan.jpg
http://dials.vrfimages.com/dials/TUDORS/TUDORSUBS/94110-9.18milSN,midsize-FloridaSam.JPG

[Orchi]

Orchi has placed the second hand on the most important part of the dial.

http://www.rolexforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=123302&stc=1&d=1268760757Err buddy Earl...TRULY intentional...
because Orchi needs to show...how tight the space proportion...in between.:chuckle::dummy:

ALSO...one would see that the "=" is aligned with "A"...vertically.:twit::chuckle:

Now...that's Orchi's rule of thumb#2...:chuckle:

Orchi's rule of thumb#3 is..."SWISS-T<25" mark under 6 o'clock marker...is FAKEEE...!:dummy:

The correct ones should be...
"T SWISS T"
"T SWISS MADE T"
"T-SWISS-T"

[swatty]

Great info Orchi :thumbsup::cheers:

[Earl Camembert]

Err buddy Earl...TRULY intentional...


OK got it; now Earl needs to see the fakes.

[blaine mattison]

:thumbsup:

76100

76100

7021

[blaine mattison]

:thumbsup:

7021

79090

[blaine mattison]

started taking pictures of my old watches about 6 months ago:thumbsup:

7021

[Earl Camembert]

Not fakes.

[Orchi]

Err buddies...a LOT of Newcomers got BURNT by many FAKE TUDOR Shield Submariner...!:dummy:

Perhaps Buddy MODs of TRF...can consider to make this thread...a Sticky...:thumbsup:


Here are the generous contributions from GOOD VRF Buddies...

TUDOR "M.N." SUB - MARINE NATIONALE...The French Marines...Tudor Submariner...
MN 77 - from Buddy Morgan...

http://www.tudorcollector.com/scans/IMG_5068.JPG


MN 74 - from Buddy Steve C...

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn317/cheng73/IMG_3441a.jpg


TUDOR Shield Submariner - From Buddy Nick B...

http://i41.tinypic.com/9jdirc.jpg


TUDOR 79090 Submariner - From Buddy Ross Povey...

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg201/oysterdater/TudorCloseFace.jpg


TUDOR 94010 Submariner - From Buddy Krabong...

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q109/krabongfoto/Tudor/94010Roel10.jpg

[ebuyingwatch]

it is great wathces.

[ColinB]

Please excuse the poor photo.

79190 and Lady-Sub

[Dan Pierce]

Great info, brother Orchi!:read::thumbsup:
dP

[Orchi]

Err buddies...VERY IMPRESSIVE indeed...:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Please keep up with the GOOD contributions...

ENCORE...ENCORE...ENCORE...!!!:chuckle::cheers:

[tudorman8276]

...the 9411 dial is a svc repl.

123555

123556

[onkyo]

Err buddy Earl...TRULY intentional...
because Orchi needs to show...how tight the space proportion...in between.:chuckle::dummy:

ALSO...one would see that the "=" is aligned with "A"...vertically.:twit::chuckle:

Now...that's Orchi's rule of thumb#2...:chuckle:

Orchi's rule of thumb#3 is..."SWISS-T<25" mark under 6 o'clock marker...is FAKEEE...!:dummy:

The correct ones should be...
"T SWISS T"
"T SWISS MADE T"
"T-SWISS-T"

More great info.... thanks Buddy Orchi!

[Orchi]

Err buddies...by now spotting a TUDOR Shield Sub...
with a FAKEEE or Refinished DIAL...should be a breeze...
for TRF "WatchOut" Buddies...:thumbsup:


Here are more pictures posted in a similar thread...
featured in the VRF...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1268792848/Tips+to+Spot+a+FAKE-Refinished+Dial+of+%26quot%3BTUDOR+Shield%26quot%3 B+Submariner..%2B%2B

TUDOR Shield Submariner 7021...from Buddy Niels...

http://i43.tinypic.com/15y6dxy.jpg

TUDOR Shield Submariner 9411...

http://i44.tinypic.com/n5fo8h.jpg

TUDOR Shield Submariner 9411...Luminova.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2nw3nkx.jpg

TUDOR Shield 94110...

http://i44.tinypic.com/99ov46.jpg

TUDOR Shield 94010...

http://i40.tinypic.com/2nq4n5t.jpg

TUDOR Shield 94010...

http://i40.tinypic.com/2v93iud.jpg

TUDOR Shield 76100...

http://i41.tinypic.com/soaemo.jpg

TUDOR Shield 79090...

http://i44.tinypic.com/r79hcp.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/vopzls.jpg

TUDOR Shield 79190...

http://i43.tinypic.com/2h2p6d5.jpg


TUDOR Shield 9401 n 9411 - from Buddy Jason Spring.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8003/tudduo.jpg


TUDOR Shield 94110 - from Buddy Boom Dale Vito.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/dalevito/snowflake/DSC05376Large.jpg

[buz-lh]

79090

[Renoir]

7021/0:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/renatoabella/003.jpg

[stusrt]

this is one I was considering on ebay -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220544047803

but the date is messed up

[patrick09]

Err buddies...VERY IMPRESSIVE indeed...:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Please keep up with the GOOD contributions...

ENCORE...ENCORE...ENCORE...!!!:chuckle::cheers:

Thanks for the great info.123713

[onkyo]

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp42/plvovsky/100_1227.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp42/plvovsky/IMG_0102.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp42/plvovsky/IMG_0018.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp42/plvovsky/IMG_0019.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp42/plvovsky/100_0224.jpg

[astintrew]

found this on sale on tz

authenticity?

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/astintrew/DSC03539.jpg


note the font of the SUBMARINER....loooks like something u find on a 79090 but rest of the dial is right?


good/bad?

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=4990030&rid=0

[idk01]

You guys trying to make me go out and buy a Tudor Sub or what :chuckle::chuckle::chuckle:

Buddy Orchi, this would have to be one of the best threads I have ever seen. brilliant info and the best collection of pics on the damn planet :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I WANT ONE :chuckle::chuckle::chuckle:

:cheers:

[Orchi]

found this on sale on tz

authenticity?

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/astintrew/DSC03539.jpg


note the font of the SUBMARINER....loooks like something u find on a 79090 but rest of the dial is right?


good/bad?

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=4990030&rid=0Err buddy...the Dial is original...
although it may or may not be original to this watch from factory...:bye:

[greekbum]

1 of mine from a 7928

[alliswell]

94110 - serial number 913xxx (1979) with 9315 bracelet (Rolex crown, 380 endpieces)

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3741/dsc0034qu.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/dsc0034qu.jpg/)

Should this watch have an O-Ring on the stem, by the way?

[Saxon007]

Pardon the dust, I am a terrible photographer

76100

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/400/400573/pages/1118665/76100dial.JPG

79090

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/400/400573/pages/1118665/79090dial.jpg

[effjay]

Hi everyone!
i really appreciate this website - it's wonderful!

i'm looking to buy a tudor submariner snowflake and have seen one that seems to pull all the right strings.

i'd love to hear your opinions though, if it's legit:
link here to chrono24.com (http://www.chrono24.com/en/search/index.htm?showid=1582078&dosearch=1&searchexplain=1&SEARCH_ADTYPE_ID=U&MODEL=submariner&SORTORDER=1&numresults=865&SETLANG=ENGB)

thanks in advance for your help!

regards,

Francis

[Josef]

I have seen this watch. There is only "SWISS" not "T SWISS T". Is it special series or fake? This is 7016/0 from 1972.

http://www.finewatchco.com/sitebuilder/images/IMG_16692-437x630.jpg

[Felix.H]

Some real nice Tudors here,... Here's my humble sub

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/bikersindo/IMG_0575.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/bikersindo/IMG_0556.jpg

[Frogman4me]

7016

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/Knowledge1L/Tudor/IMG_0311.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/Knowledge1L/Tudor/IMG_0321.jpg