Patek Philippe 5070 R

[unknown]

The most beautifull chronograph EVER made !!! ;)

Manually wound movement with 30 minute elapsed time chronograph and small second hand.
Water resistant to 25m.
Fold-over clasp.
Sapphire crystal case back.
Pink Gold case 42 mm
Caliber CH 27-70
Thickness 5.57 [mm]
Movement diameter 27.50 [mm]
Case diameter 42.00 [mm]
Number of jewels 24
Power reserve min 50 max 60 hours
Balance type Gyromax
Vibrations / hour 18000 [Hz]
Distinctive sign Geneva Seal

This movement CH 27-70 can be found in 3 Patek references
the 5070 - chrono
the 5970 - chrono quantième perpétuel
the 5004 - chrono split-second quantième perpétuel

This is by far the most beautifull chrono mouvement Patek offers.
Their inhouse chrono which you can find in the 5980 and 5960 is great but not not as nice as the CH 27-70

It's personal taste ofcourse but imo this watch is 100% perfect.
It looks great and feels great.
The size of the case is perfect (not too small and not too big) The combination of the silver-grey dial and the red gold case is wonderfull.

If there is one watch in the world who will make you forget all the other watches it must be this one
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[JJ Irani]

Absolutely stunning!! :thumbsup:

A watch like this would hold its value forever!! :cheers:

[greenfan]

Well, it may be a stunning watch, but it's not for me. Too much gold.....

[directioneng]

My wife said it all.


ohhhh!!! that is stunning! How much is it.


ec

[greenfan]

I´d rather buy a house... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

[roadcarver]

It all depends on person's taste. I love chronos but I like as a sport watch type than dressy. Also, too much gold.

Movement is beautiful though.

[ofelas]

unknown...your write up was more of a love duet than a review...lol...enjoy your watch though...it looks real pretty :cheers:

[sooner]

It's pretty but I'll never spend that kind of money for a Sunday watch.

[ROP]

this pp is too expensive.The people in my country can use this PP to change a big house or a nice car.

[worktolivelife]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/worktolivelife/patekphilippe_5960P.jpg

steve:joy:

[padi56]

Patek Philippe used a Nouvelle Lémania calibre ebauche produced exclusively for Patek as a Base for there CH 27-70 Manual wind chronographs .But now since around 2005 they produce there own chronograph and flyback movements great watch but not a huge gold or a huge Patek fan, admire there movement but not some of there style.

[speedmaster]

One of the most beautiful pieces ever, imho.

[frostie]

Greal looking watch and a great review. I don't know much about patek philippe but i like this particular watch :thumbsup:

[ragoldfinger]

hey,love the watch,and can never get too much gold.

[unclesallie]

Of course, the displayed patek chronograph is beautiful. first, i'm not a great fans of chronographs. but let's talk calatreva, with a sweep hand(i think last year was last time they will manufacture the calatreva with a sweep hand....for the privilege of that sweep hand, costs about $16,000.00, as opposed to the calatreva without which(was) about $12,000 or $14,000.00)...so, let's ask this question? if you want a repair on a patek where do you go? who repairs em outside switzerland? how do they stand up to shock, water, temperature variations? i guess some of their movements are curved which is a real feat, and makes them instant collectables....but some of the watches in the $70K range are just downright ugly. so yeah, i'd like a calatreva with a sweep hand, but all in all, i prefer rolex because they do withstand a beating, hold their value, are readily repaired, and they do withstand all kinds of temperature variations and water exposures....so give me rolex.:smokin:

[Rockrolex]

It's a beautiful movement, but it has a major drawback - it's manual wind. I'm extremely lazy. I hate having to wind watches on a regular basis. My one manual wind (18K G Corum dress watch) sits in the drawer.

[timebroker]

There are so many beautiful watches out there, even Seikos have some appeal imo.
Must say this is a real nice one although a bit out of my price range lol.

[watchloverdave]

Wow!!!!! That is a spectacular watch!!!!! That dial is absolutely superb. And although there's a lot of gold, I think it is toned down by the leather strap.

If I sold my house, I could be wearing this and I wouldn't have to be worrying about a new roof, mowing the lawn, or any of the other "joys" of home ownership.

But in all honesty, I'm not a big chronograph fan as I have nothing to time but steaks on the grill. For my money, the PP Caltrava , the Ellipse d'Or, or the Nautilus would be better choices.

That said, I have to agree that the watch pictured is stunningly beautiful. Thanks for posting those pics.

[syed]

too much gold but pp is the number cannot go wrong only problem with pp the size not many in 40mm to 42mm range alot of them in 36mm range thats the draw back may be people are small built in swiss he!he!

[Destroy]

Absolutely beautiful, and if I could have several watches of it's type, maybe, but:

manual wind?????

[watchloverdave]

I have several manual wind watches and don't see winding as a problem at all. I'm an older guy and grew up with the daily ritual of winding your watch in the morning before breakfast; so, winding seems absolutely normal to me. In fact, I think manual winding creates a more personal connection between the wearer and his/her watch.

[Destroy]

what's the accuracy on this type of watch?

[boa2]

I love the YG, though some here might find the white gold (or platinum) to be more subtle.

[bigmikebee]

nice clock:thumbsup:

[time]

Super stunning Patek! :cheers:

[vukotab]

Most beautiful watch that I`ve ever seen!Amazing!

[topcat30093]

A truly beautiful watch, but as Ed points out.
I would much prefer an automatic movement.

[simplicity]

congrats , i agree , 5070 RG is stunning , manual windind is great ,and i love mine too .
but now discontinued ,and you only can get 5070 PT

[DeepSeaWatches]

Beautiful watch!

[GMTJOHNNY]

Can you play golf with it on? After you tee off, you can probably hear all the screws and jewels flying around inside the case. Nice but not as practical for my needs.

[RW16610]

Awesome :thumbsup: I have to get me a Patek someday indeed.


Nice but not as practical for my needs

I am with you on that but would like it so much and still end up wearing it daily. :chuckle:

[Tony-GB]

I have recently stated that I have yet to see a Patek that I like, but have to say this timepiece is beautifully crafted. The balance of proportions are just right & the display back has a right to be there.

Your photographs do this piece justice. :thumbsup:

Enjoy in the best of health

[Perdu]

Wow! What a watch.

[rpryan55]

Tres cool.

[ratae1950]

I'm not crazy about the partial obliteration of primary hour numbers [see also IWC] nor the 'sharpness' of case edges. To me it is aestheticly confused, with a traditional feeling dial, IMHO too busy, set in modernist angular case with too many planes. If it were food to me it would be too rich..... :thumbsdow
Great pictures!
[I listen to opera...]

[simplicity]

congrats , i agree , 5070 RG is stunning , manual windind is great ,and i love mine too .
but now discontinued ,and you only can get 5070 PT

i forgot ......
it fits very well on my wrist

http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/09/00/98/73/img_7521.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=322&u=10009873)

[Perdu]

I think the manual wind is in keeping with its very classical looks.

[CPTL]

Lot of PP haters on this forum. "It's nice, but impractical for mowing the lawn...."

This is a beautiful watch. Handcrafted, beautifully finished movement in limited production...basically as good as it gets in the horological world. And no--it's not as rugged as a Rolex. It's not meant to be.

Bravo on your acquisition. Don't mow the lawn with it. But do smile like a damn fool every time you put it on your wrist. I only wish I was confident enough in my bottom line to drop the money for a PP. Someday....

[gmt master x]

Bravo...:clap::clap::clap:

[unknown]

I love the YG, though some here might find the white gold (or platinum) to be more subtle.



untill you have seen the Platinum :-)

Saw one months ago. I do love the red gold a lot, especially with the silver-grey dial
BUT the platinum 5070 with blue sunburst dial is the most amazing watch I ever saw.

Only 2 problems ... 2 BIG problems :-)

First : way too expensive for me
Second : Even if you have the money, they're impossible to get LOL

[Ewoodcorp]

you are basically holding that watch for the next generation.

[Rebel]

Wow!

[Widows Son]

Gorgeous. I love the flat pushers.

[Dr.B]

Beautiful....and prestigious. However, it would be hard for me to shell out that kind of cash. PP are the cream of the crop but just too $$$$. Rolex and Zenith also make beautiful Chronos...

[ocwatching]

Lot of PP haters on this forum. "It's nice, but impractical for mowing the lawn...."

This is a beautiful watch. Handcrafted, beautifully finished movement in limited production...basically as good as it gets in the horological world. And no--it's not as rugged as a Rolex. It's not meant to be.

Bravo on your acquisition. Don't mow the lawn with it. But do smile like a damn fool every time you put it on your wrist. I only wish I was confident enough in my bottom line to drop the money for a PP. Someday....

AGREED!

When you drop the value of a house on something for your wrist its kinnda like buying a Picasso and hanging it in your house...just a different kind of appreciation...

never going to be able to afford one or get one...my grail the 5070P

[unknown]

AGREED!

When you drop the value of a house on something for your wrist its kinnda like buying a Picasso and hanging it in your house...just a different kind of appreciation...

never going to be able to afford one or get one...my grail the 5070P

5070P, a grail indeed

Like said, I saw one 5 months ago. The watch was from a collector I once met.
Anyway, I took these pictures .... Damn, that is the most gorgeous watch I EVER saw !!



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/unknown100/patek5070Pa.jpg



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[hennabav]

Not many Pateks really do it for me but I must say, this watch is absolutely GORGEOUS!! How much is one of these going for?

[topcat30093]

The 5070P which is the only model that you can now get from Patek. Will cost you in the UK £52,800

[ocwatching]

these pop up on the sales boards for about $100K USD

[cmkooi]

this pp is too expensive.The people in my country can use this PP to change a big house or a nice car.

Oh please... and your selling yours also to help finance someones house ? :dummy:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=17202

you are basically holding that watch for the next generation.

Where did i hear that before ?
:lol:
http://www.timebooth.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/patek_philippe_fathers_and_sons.jpg


But all things aside.. i love your patek and it is indeed an amazing watch.. hope you realise your very privileged.. ! :thumbsup:

[unknown]

Oh please... and your selling yours also to help finance someones house ? :dummy:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=17202



Where did i hear that before ?
:lol:
http://www.timebooth.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/patek_philippe_fathers_and_sons.jpg


But all things aside.. i love your patek and it is indeed an amazing watch.. hope you realise your very privileged.. ! :thumbsup:



"But all things aside.. i love your patek and it is indeed an amazing watch.. hope you realise your very privileged.. "

I WISH the Platinum 5070 was mine :-)

[elgatonegro]

All I can say is..excellent choice. :thumbsup:

[Big Shurl]

Wow very nice pictures.

[s2kev]

One day....

[jem4]

Stunning!

[hennabav]

If I had that kind of money, I would buy that kind of watch...but I don't, so I won't.

[JBat]

It is gorgeous, and impeccably finished.

[JoeI]

[QUOTE=ratae1950;700035]I'm not crazy about the partial obliteration of primary hour numbers.

First off,i am a huge Patek fan and my goal is to aquire one in my lifetime, But the partial numbers at the 2,4,8 & 10 are a major design flaw IMHO.

[towernick]

This might be frowned upon, I love the 5070P, always have, but would really like to have it on a bracelet. Just my 2 cents.

[everose]

WOW....simplicity and quality taken to the limits...PP are the masters.

The photos are also of exceptional quality....really enjoyed, thanks.

[kle]

The watch is pretty. But to me, the dial looks a bit too busy to my liking. The minute hand is curved down a bit like GS. The recent GS Spring Drive range is better I think. PP is absolutely the sought after watch as the whole but the GS is good value for money. One more thing, only 24 jewels in the watch of 50k pounds. I am not sure how reliable the movement is but paying that sort of money I expect a bit more than 24 jewels. Is it as tough as the GS chronograph?

[johnswatch]

Wow, this is the funniest thread I've read in ages.

Rolex owners slating a watch collector for spending too much on a watch. 'If I had that sort of money' etc etc.


Take a deep breath and perhaps visit some of the other watch forums where you'll read posters saying that to spend that much on a Rolex you must be either A.) Mentally impaired or B.) Unbelievably wealthy or C.) Both.

You can't justify Rolex prices by talking about quality, neither can you justify Patek prices by the same measure.

Is the Patek as robust as a Seiko chrono? Probably. Why wouldn't it be?

Anyway, the Patek chrono is probably the nicest watch I've ever seen. It is a piece of beautiful artful design. It is in this capacity it needs to be considered - as art not purely timepiece.

Congratulations on your purchase it is truly stunning.

[topcat30093]

The watch is pretty. But to me, the dial looks a bit too busy to my liking. The minute hand is curved down a bit like GS. The recent GS Spring Drive range is better I think. PP is absolutely the sought after watch as the whole but the GS is good value for money. One more thing, only 24 jewels in the watch of 50k pounds. I am not sure how reliable the movement is but paying that sort of money I expect a bit more than 24 jewels. Is it as tough as the GS chronograph?

Kle

May I respectfully suggest that you do some further research on the Patek Philippe brand?

If you do you will see that the 5070 was fitted with one on the most robust and beautiful movements in a chronograph ever created.
It was not an in house movement but was made by the famous "Lemania" brand.

The number of jewels fitted to a movement does not mean that it is a better or more complicated one.
In this day and age when manufacture's are working with silicon to help extend the wear and tear on a movement, you will find very few jewels.
In fact now a days a jewel may only be there to make the movemment more photogenic!!

The movement that is fitted to a Spring Drive is quite nice, but it can in NO way compare to the finish of movements that crafted to the degree that a Patek is.

This is just my humble opinion.

[sambb]

for me, without a date, i dont like the pp
and i like the lange datograph better as a chrono

the pp is nice, but i own a very nice patek, and to be honest, it is often more trouble than it is worth...
this is why, after owning breguet, lange, and patek, i am back to rolex...

[onkyo]

The 5070P is one of the most beautiful watches I have ever seen....

I would love to own one.

[kle]

Kle

May I respectfully suggest that you do some further research on the Patek Philippe brand?

If you do you will see that the 5070 was fitted with one on the most robust and beautiful movements in a chronograph ever created.
It was not an in house movement but was made by the famous "Lemania" brand.

The number of jewels fitted to a movement does not mean that it is a better or more complicated one.
In this day and age when manufacture's are working with silicon to help extend the wear and tear on a movement, you will find very few jewels.
In fact now a days a jewel may only be there to make the movemment more photogenic!!

The movement that is fitted to a Spring Drive is quite nice, but it can in NO way compare to the finish of movements that crafted to the degree that a Patek is.

This is just my humble opinion.

Thanks for your posting. I agree the PP is one of the most sought after brands in the world. It is really dependent on what you look for. The PP movement at the back is really stunning, I agree. Most believe that Swiss watches are the "gods" of watches. PP is smart in a way that they hand built very limited editions of their ranges. The limitedness plus the myth of Swiss watches thus making PP the most sought after. Quality, theoretically, it "must" be there if you pay that much of money. But???? Is it always the case? However you cannot really cross out the GS. Just a thought. Cheers.

[kyle L]

Thanks for your posting. I agree the PP is one of the most sought after brands in the world. It is really dependent on what you look for. The PP movement at the back is really stunning, I agree. Most believe that Swiss watches are the "gods" of watches. PP is smart in a way that they hand built very limited editions of their ranges. The limitedness plus the myth of Swiss watches thus making PP the most sought after. Quality, theoretically, it "must" be there if you pay that much of money. But???? Is it always the case? However you cannot really cross out the GS. Just a thought. Cheers.

The GS is stunning and very respected, but comparing the two watches is kind of like comparing apple to oranges. :chuckle:

[rpryan55]

I'm afraid I'm not aware of what GS stands for....

[kle]

The GS is stunning and very respected, but comparing the two watches is kind of like comparing apple to oranges. :chuckle:

Yes, you are right. Like a Ferrari and a Lexus ;) GS = Grand Seiko.

[L-16610]

I LOVE this watch !!!!!!!!!

can somebody post some pictures of the Yellow gold 5070 ?

[erolorhun]

Incredibly classy. Epic watch

[PerfectTiming]

If ONLY I could afford it. Beautiful watch AND pics.. thanks for sharing!

[Deyn Man]

awesome watch!!!! :drul:
but need to get a house 1st and a nice car before investing in one...
in time... :thumbsup:

[AAMD11]

Great Patek, but Patek in itself is not for me, I prefer AP

[hennabav]

That is gorgeous no doubt...would be more gorgeous if my wallet permits me from making such a purchase!!

[SteelerFan65]

Oh man--I think I want one!!!! Another Grail...Sweet!!

[welem]

simply stunning, a watch truly worthy of being a true grail watch for me!

[LordNinja]

Of course, the displayed patek chronograph is beautiful. first, i'm not a great fans of chronographs. but let's talk calatreva, with a sweep hand(i think last year was last time they will manufacture the calatreva with a sweep hand....for the privilege of that sweep hand, costs about $16,000.00, as opposed to the calatreva without which(was) about $12,000 or $14,000.00)...so, let's ask this question? if you want a repair on a patek where do you go? who repairs em outside switzerland? how do they stand up to shock, water, temperature variations? i guess some of their movements are curved which is a real feat, and makes them instant collectables....but some of the watches in the $70K range are just downright ugly. so yeah, i'd like a calatreva with a sweep hand, but all in all, i prefer rolex because they do withstand a beating, hold their value, are readily repaired, and they do withstand all kinds of temperature variations and water exposures....so give me rolex.:smokin:

Reminds me of the 27,000 dollar tire change after a flat on a certain car make a friend was just telling me about... Good questions, I wonder what the services cost relative to my Rolex..:read:

[SteveArn]

Beautiful, inside and out.
:worship:

[RRM1020]

I´d rather buy a house... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

:thumbsup:
I totally agree with you.
But if someone offered me this watch for all of mine (7) I would give it some thought - after making a value comparison.

[RRM1020]

I love the YG, though some here might find the white gold (or platinum) to be more subtle.

Stunning pieces.
For a similar look Cartier has the new Calibre. Sort of similar look. I have only seen them online.

[watchteacher]

Patek Philippe used a Nouvelle Lémania calibre ebauche produced exclusively for Patek as a Base for there CH 27-70 Manual wind chronographs .But now since around 2005 they produce there own chronograph and flyback movements great watch but not a huge gold or a huge Patek fan, admire there movement but not some of there style.

Not true. My Breguet ref 3237 uses the same base movement, and now of course Lemania doesn't exist except as part of Breguet. Patek did make many changes to the Lemania movement, not the least was changing the balance wheel and hairspring.

[paverman]

Well, in hindsight, I wish I would have bought one for my collection before they were discontinued. Truely a beautiful watch.:thumbsup:

[rolexdeepsea]

beautiful watch i love patek

[dddrees]

Stunning Watch.

The gold is just perfect for this watch.

PP realy make some wonderfull looking watches.

I fell in luv with their perpetual calendar,but this one looks amazing as well.

[al_mal001]

What a beautiful watch! Thank you for showing.

[learnmore60]

Pictures dont do it justice really...

I've been thinking for a long time what would be the ideal reference to get as my first Patek watch...
I'm a great fan of Vintage Rolex's and AP's but really wanted to a get a nice Patek... and with so many choices it was confusing...

I wanted a watch that was not too classic looking and the new 5936 WG & 5205 (grey dial) seemed the favourite contenders. I was also considering the 5712 WG and the 5960P though a lot more expensive.

But after much thought, I decided in the end to go with the 5070 WG!

I thought if Im getting a Patek, I would like it to hold its value and I thought the 5070 would be a good choice. I also like the large case size of this watch and its design can go great with suits or semi casual attire.

Since its been discontinued for some time i needed to find a pre-owned one but wanted a sealed new piece. So I flew down on the weekend to the Parma Fair in Italy and found one gorgeous new piece!! And am really happy with my ultimate choice... hope you like the pics!

best

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc342/learnmore60/Patek%205070G/IMG_1180.jpg
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc342/learnmore60/Patek%205070G/IMG_1179.jpg
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[SteveArn]

That's not a watch!

That's ART.

Exquisite. :thumbsup:

[mask1196]

Long live the 5070G!!!

[hanto]

Wow it's a dream watch!

[TSW]

Beautiful Patek:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Aivas47a]

Beautiful watch, but personally I'd prefer the quantieme complication. Folks who can afford this watch really don't need a chrono. If they need to time something (polo match, yacht race), they can just tell a servant to do it. :)

[venom43]

:worship:Beautiful watch:worship:..... hate the clasp.:thumbsdow
My :2:

[chestercopperpot]

mother may I?

[jessiethe3rd]

When I grow up I'll own this watch...

[L-16610]

I just saw the price of the new 5170 ( successor of the 5070)

almost 60.000 euro ???
60.000 WTF, I think a 5070 was only 40.000 (maybe 'only' is not the correct word when we're talking about 40K LOL)

[Kapture1]

My Grail right their. Stunning.

I never understood a manual wind until I bought my Speedmaster pro.
if I had the cash, I'd buy that any day of the week. Thanks for sharing.

[KarlFr]

Fantastic watch!

[johnbeth]

:drul: :drul:

[L-16610]

How many 5070 were made in total

they are discontinued 2 years ago, are there any official numbers ?

[Marc_Quadra]

This is definitely a stunning watch !

[Palakiko]

A great timepiece.

[cwilson13]

work of art. but platinum is the only way to go. imho.

[FeelingTheBlues]

That watch is simply incredible! Who thought a loaded dial chronograph could look so fancy? I love those pushers as well.

[JohnFM]

Incredible photos of the dial and movement. Thanks!
John

[wasuki]

Absolutely amazing timepiece.

[horseco]

Patek is on a level all its own... just gorgeous