In-House New Movement From Omega.

[padi56]

To be launched in the new De Ville range the calibre 8500/8501 a
Co-Axial technology movement.The large 13-lines movement has twin barrels which increases the power reserve to a respectful 60 plus hours. And with greater COSC accuracy,must say the movement looks quite beautiful and very well finished .


http://www.omega.ch/index.php?id=81&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=779&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=74&cHash=724dd3860d

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3305/omega8500dw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Hotrod64]

Very nice looking movement!

Hope the De Villes comes with exhibition case backs.

[JJ Irani]

Beautiful....and a solid gold rotor to boot!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Otis]

Very nice Padi! The new coaxial movements are excellent, Omega are really starting to produce some nice looking pieeces this year. The new DeVill chronoscope, Omega have really come up with a winner on this one. It is a stunner, and quite reasonably priced too, the rumours say.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/uf83/48501.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/uf83/46561-1.jpg

[JJ Irani]

Those are some seriously superb pics, Otis. I love the way the OMEGA name, logo and all the numbers are APPLIED rather than printed.

Fantastic stuff!! :thumbsup:

[Otis]

And look at the finishing on the subdials!
I want one now...

[kakalika]

60 hour power reserve? that is impressive. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Solo118]

Very nice Padi! The new coaxial movements are excellent, Omega are really starting to produce some nice looking pieeces this year. The new DeVill chronoscope, Omega have really come up with a winner on this one. It is a stunner, and quite reasonably priced too, the rumours say.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/uf83/48501.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/uf83/46561-1.jpg

That watch is stunning!

[DavidHasselhoff]

I had a look at a De Ville with the co-axial movement today. I was really, really tempted to buy it. Beautiful movement behind the clear caseback. Simply stunning! However the dealer was rambling on about how much better this movement was than the 3135 in my sub which made me less interested in buying one instantly. He wasn't really inpolite, rude or anything like that... He just loved Omegas... A little to much maybe. Anyway I really liked the De Ville and I wouldn't mind having one. We'll see what happens.

[Welshwatchman]

I had a look at a De Ville with the co-axial movement today. I was really, really tempted to buy it. Beautiful movement behind the clear caseback. Simply stunning! However the dealer was rambling on about how much better this movement was than the 3135 in my sub which made me less interested in buying one instantly. He wasn't really inpolite, rude or anything like that... He just loved Omegas... A little to much maybe. Anyway I really liked the De Ville and I wouldn't mind having one. We'll see what happens.

My DeVille Coax Chrono had a beautiful movement through the caseback.

It was also very unreliable, three visits and seven months back at Omega.:dummy:

It also lost 70% of its value after 3 years.:thumbsdow

You win some .....

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t306/welshwatchman/omegabox.jpg

[DavidHasselhoff]

My DeVille Coax Chrono had a beautiful movement through the caseback.

It was also very unreliable, three visits and seven months back at Omega.:dummy:

It also lost 70% of its value after 3 years.:thumbsdow

You win some .....

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t306/welshwatchman/omegabox.jpg

Hmm... Have heard they had some initial problems with the new movement but that they are excellent nowadays. Does anyone have any info on how these movements seem to work today?

[Welshwatchman]

Hmm... Have heard they had some initial problems with the new movement but that they are excellent nowadays. Does anyone have any info on how these movements seem to work today?

My dealer told me he had to send 15 back out of the 20 sold in the first year for repair.

They may be good now but that bad taste in my mouth still lingers.

I also bet the depreciation hasn't improved either.

[DSJ]

I saw this really interesting DeVille with sapphire SIDES. Anyone seen that one? What a piece, but for the price, it puts me in near reach of a used DD.

[Perdu]

First we get co-axle and a price hike and next comes the in-house movement and another big price jump. It will be really interesting to see how these perform -it looks a beauty.

I have a low-tech 1128 (1120) but since it keeps time to 4 seconds a month that's just fine.

Paul, I've heard a few examples of premature product release from Omega. It would make me very cautious of buying a new model from them until it's had a few years on the market. I hope they stop goofing around like that. Hardly inspires confidence.

I see they are going to use screw in links - at last!

[applebook]

The 33XX F. Piguet movements in the high-end OMEGA chronographs are already pretty much in-house. If OMEGA truly wants to be a big player, then it does need in-house movements in the lower-end market.

I'd love to have a Seamaster Pro with something in-house and would pay twice as much as the current ETA.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

(...)

I'd love to have a Seamaster Pro with something in-house and would pay twice as much as the current ETA.

Have you read this review (http://www.rolexreferencepage.com/seamaster/smp.html) of the Omega SMP?

I quote from there:

"The Omega cal. 1120 is an amazing movement, and an excellent choice for this watch. The movement was first introduced in 1996, and Omega uses the ETA 2892-A2 as the base ebauche, and heavily modifies it to produce the 1120. The base ETA 2892-A2 is widely considered the best movement ever produced by ETA (first introduced in 1975, with a lineage going back much further with Eterna). Many, many high end watch manufacturers (like IWC and Cartier) also use the 2892-A2 as a base movement. Why? Well, cost is no doubt a factor. However, I submit that many watch companies all come to the same conclusion: They could spend the money to design and manufacture their own movement in-house and still not match the technical marvel which is the 2892-A2. Don’t take my word for it – research the treasure trove of articles on Timezone by such horological luminaries as Walt Odets and others who closely examine the attributes of the 2892-A2."

[mdx77]

Very nice looking movement!

Hope the De Villes comes with exhibition case backs.

x2.....with that much detail, it would have to be! :thumbsup:

[applebook]

I don't like the idea of spending thousands on a watch that has a movement, which can be found in some sub-$500 watches (even many fakes!). Even if the manufacturer adorns the movement with diamonds, I still wouldn't want it in an ultra expensive watch.

However, at $1500, the SMP is a great buy. The IWCs that you speak of, using the 2892, is not a good buy, in my opinion. If I didn't care much about the movement, then I would've bought an IWC Portuguese chrono a long time ago. Unlike many companies that use ETA/Valjoux movements, IWC is actually one that highly modifies its parts, not just decorates them, yet I still can't justify spending that kind of money on an ETA based IWC no matter how much I like their designs. For the same price as an IWC Flieger, I can get an OMEGA Speedmaster Broad Arrow, with a far more desirable movement. The choice for me is easy.

If in-house movements were cheaper to manufacture, it makes no sense for companies to outsource their movements. Are all in-house movements "better?" Technically speaking, no, but many of them are more desirable, and that's one of the reasons why manufacturers charge far more for their in-house models.

[applebook]

double post...even though I clicked only once.

[Wasatch]

I saw this really interesting DeVille with sapphire SIDES. Anyone seen that one? What a piece, but for the price, it puts me in near reach of a used DD.

I think you're referring to the Hour Vision, aren't you?

[fear]

Ahhhhh. The 1120 I liked that movement a lot!!