Really worried after reading your threads on fakes!!!

[Sub Lover]

I already have one Sub and purchased this one from a local jewlers but am a little concerned. The face on this one looks different to the one I have (purchased from Rolex inSelfridges-London, so its definately real!). I have searched forums and found that this sub is called an LV and that it SHOULD have this etched crystal logo. It is actually not very visible at all to the naked eye but shows up on the pics quite prominantly!! Can anyone help me as I am worried, I didnt realise there were fakes around that could possibly fool me and I just spent £3300 on this one!!!

[timebroker]

The coronet is very hard to see with the naked eye, you not seeing it right away is a good sign imo, you have to keep the watch up to the light in just the right angle.
Try to take pictures (these will show more than what you see) or use a loupe.
There are quite a few people on here who were searching for a long time before seeing it.

[Fitchy]

The etched crown on the crystal is very difficult to see with the naked eye, if you could see it easily then i would be worried.

Did you get papers with the watch?

If you can post some pictures then i'm sure the guys here will give you their opinons on the watch.

If you still in doubt the take it to a watchmaker/AD and they will be able to verify if its real or not

[Alcan]

As everyone else has said, the coronet is really small and hard to see. Nancy and my neighbour have spotted the coronet on my Sub, but I still can't see it. The photo below should give you an idea how small it is compared to the 6:00 index. Btw, this one has "S" in the base of the coronet indicating it's a service replacement. Original crystals don't have the "S".

[Downing]

The etched crown isn't difficult to see with the naked eye for me--it's impossible! And believe me, I've tried.

I wasn't worried since I bought my watch from an AD, but just for kicks I borrowed his loupe on a return visit and voila! there it was, plainly visible.

So as was suggested, just drop in on your AD or another watchmaker and ask to borrow their loupe. You'll have no trouble spotting the crown, your worries will melt away and all will be right with the world. :thumbsup:

[Sub Lover]

They were to large so I shrank them!! Please give me your opinions please
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[Superlative]

To me the itched crown on your LV look WAY to big to be original and your winding crown at 3 o clock dont look right ether at the end and the swiss made on the botton at 6 o cloc the min market dont line up right under the SWISS MADE.:thinking:

[Sub Lover]

Thanks for the response, please can you be really specific as I'm going to the police with exactly your comments. Many Thanks, I'm furious, he assured me he was a AD and had proof as well!!!:banghead:

[Downing]

Hmmm. I would wait and gather some more opinions before rushing off to the police and making accusations. I'm really not qualified to judge, but the watch looks fine to me. Plus a) it's hard for me to believe an AD would sell a fake watch; b) the etched crown can't be seen with the naked eye; and c) I don't see a problem with either the "swiss made" or the crown.

As I said, I'm not qualified to give a proper opinion but it sure looks like a genuine Rolex to me. Have some patience. If no one comes along shortly, then you might want to PM some of the long-time regulars here to solicit opinions.

Just trying to be helpful and not stepping on anyone's toes...

[vh_bu98]

What series is your LV?

I'm not an expert in determing authenticity, but the etched crown does seem very noticeable. Can you see it with the naked eye?

The gap between Swiss Made on yours is larger than mine as well, but that may just be your model. I would take it to an RSC to verify it if you're really concern.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

I think there are some issues with your LV.

Read this thread:

(EDIT - reason below)

Also, the colours of the string of the COSC tag are wrong (the green is too light green).

According to forum rules, I have also reported it.

:cheers:

[Gedanken]

At this juncture, I would say that the LV's more than likely to be a fake. Sub Lover, I would recommend that you take the watch to your neaqrest RSC and have it assessed. If it is a fake, ask for written documentation to that effect and take it to the police.

[steve-o]

If you can see the teching like that...fake IMHO.

[KansaiVet]

Nothing more to add. :thumbsdow :crying:

[supra2nv]

bummer dude...

but this reminds me, i should try to find the laser crown my my daytonas :)

[Downing]

According to forum rules, I have also reported it.

What? Where in the rules does it say we should report a suspected fake Rolex in a WatchOut thread that asks if the watch in question is a fake Rolex?

Isn't that one of the purposes behind the creation of the WatchOut Section? :thinking:

Sub Lover, I'm sorry to read that the consensus is that your watch is a fake. That blows. Good luck resolving this. Keep us posted.

[Incurable]

I would do as Gedanken suggests. Colors can be deceiving, depending on lighting, camera used, color balance, etc. The only hitch in the Gedanken's suggestion would be Rolex would probably insist on confiscating the watch if it was found to be a replica. If there is a qualified, reputable watchmaker in your area, you might entertain taking it to them. I hope this watch turns out to be genuine for you. You do have recourse as you did buy this from a real dealer and, if found to be not genuine, they should do the right thing to resolve the matter.

[bigmikebee]

http://www.horologist.com/rolex_fakes.htm

[Sub Lover]

http://www.horologist.com/rolex_fakes.htm

Hi guys,
I feel a little more comfortable, I checked the link and my watch seems fine by their list, i need to get the back removed though to make sure!!

[Downing]

Well, I'm really, really hoping it's an authentic Rolex.

Not only for your sake, but for the irony that it would be if the one guy here who is completely unqualified to judge the authenticity of a watch (that would be me) turns out to be right. :read:

But mostly for your sake. :thumbsup:

[daunwaun]

good luck i hope it works out

[Sub Lover]

ITS REAL< ITS REAL, the AD dealer was not happy with the crown, thats why it took so long for a response but the watch is all good. What a relief as I already bragged about it at work all week before I had it!!! He said that it checks out inside and out!!:cheers:

[watchgeek]

great news

[Hellcat65]

Im still wondering what the hell Bo reported?? and why????

[KansaiVet]

Great news! Congratulations!

[Downing]

ITS REAL< ITS REAL, the AD dealer was not happy with the crown, thats why it took so long for a response but the watch is all good. What a relief as I already bragged about it at work all week before I had it!!! He said that it checks out inside and out!!:cheers:

Ha! I'm really glad to hear it. Now you can finally sit back and enjoy your beautiful watch with no worries.

And to all of you naysayers out there, as my wife likes to say to me, "I was right, but more importantly you were wrong." :rofl:

:dance:

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Im still wondering what the hell Bo reported?? and why????

If there is doubt about the authenticity of a Rolex, James has advised to report it so that the thread it moved to this section.

Here is James' thread: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=22342

Posts came up about the LEC and the "SWISS MADE", and I agreed that that there seemed to be some issues with it, especially with the LEC, so that is why I reported it.

Here it could then be discussed if it IS a fake or not.

The issues I saw (and STILL see - still have my doubts, no offense!) are based on the pics provided.

If it is real, well, then "Sub Lover" can be a happy man :thumbsup:

[arttay10]

Good News Sub-Lover !! Hope to see you in the forum:thumbsup:

[Hellcat65]

If there is doubt about the authenticity of a Rolex, James has advised to report it so that the thread it moved to this section.

Here is James' thread: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=22342

Posts came up about the LEC and the "SWISS MADE", and I agreed that that there seemed to be some issues with it, especially with the LEC, so that is why I reported it.

Here it could then be discussed if it IS a fake or not.

The issues I saw (and STILL see - still have my doubts, no offense!) are based on the pics provided.

If it is real, well, then "Sub Lover" can be a happy man :thumbsup:




I still have doubts as well...that LEC is WAAAAAY to pronounced. A couple of other things make me wonder but the pictures are tough to tell....I would love to see the movement pictures.