Omega 300M GMT

[Perdu]

Omega Seamaster 300M GMT and some comparisons with the Rolex GMT

The dial of the watch has a guilloche wave pattern that varies in different shades of light. Omega write “chronometer” etc., over the wave pattern and the finishing detail of the dial under a loup is amazing. The minute markers are much like the early eighties Rolex GMT, that is longer in length. The 24 hour hand appears a slightly darker red than the Rolex version, with a smaller, more subtle triangle at the end. While the dial is black, compared with Rolex’s dials it appears more dark anthracite and is not glossed.

The sword hands and hour markers are oversized allowing for a large coverage of Super-LumiNova. In addition, Omega use color C3, (yellow) as this glows brighter than any other Super-LumiNova color, making this the best low light dial I have experienced. It also makes the markers appear light green in most light because they are glowing so brightly. Whether this bothers you or not is a matter of personal taste. Although you cannot see it in my photos, the hour markers are surrounded by a thick white line that gives them more definition than my pictures show.

The movement is Omega’s cal. 1128, a modified ETA 2892-A2 movement. It’s the Omega cal.1120 with a GMT function. I am not qualified to comment further on the movement other than to say the cal.1120 is highly regarded as a reliable work horse by Omega enthusiasts.

It uses the Incabloc shock system (Omega rates the 1128 as withstanding up to 5000G), rather than Rolex’s improved kif shock system. The hours hands jump forward or backwards just like the Rolex GMT, although they feel much more positive than the Rolex GMT, with no slack. Like the Rolex, you loose the quick set date and the Omega date mechanism does not change on the strike of midnight.

Since I have only owned this watch two months I cannot comment on long term accuracy, but until now my watch has gained 2 seconds a day – a minute a month. I wrote to Omega and asked them to send me my watches actual COSC certificate, which they kindly did, which is a nice touch.

The bezel has a somewhat “tinny” feel to it unlike the more solid feel of the Rolex bezel. The bezel insert cannot be changed; instead you have the change the whole Bezel. It also has smooth edges, which I have not found a problem, but it would be if you have wet hands. I have accidently moved the bezel several times and I would prefer it was harder to turn. Just like the Rolex, there are 120 clicks to one rotation.

The Crown is a little small and too recessed. The former is not a problem but I have no idea why Omega thought they needed to recess the crown so much. On the underside of the watch it’s not recessed. The best crown I have seen on a watch is Rolex's Triplock.

The bracelet is solid 316L stainless steel and extremely comfortable, so much so that I often don’t bother to take it off at night. There is absolutely no rattle to this bracelet. The clasp is prone to scratching but a fiberglass pen or a Scotch-Bite pad fixes this. The only downside to this strap which may bother most people is that it has no user adjustment. Unless you are competent to adjust a pin bracelet it’s off to the watchmaker if you want adjustments between summer and winter as you wrist size changes.

The case is also stainless 316L. I don’t have a caliper or a scale but this watch is definitely heavier than my Rolex Submariner and although about the same depth, is more contoured to the wrist, so appears to sit a little lower. Although it's not printed on the dial, the GMT is rated to 1000 feet.

The price is $2500.00 MSRP but you can find great discounts. Full GMT functionality, excellent timekeeping, impeccable finishing of the dial, case and bracelet, and a great tool watch design for less than half the price of the Rolex. You can’t beat that.:thumbsup:

I hope you enjoyed my review. Excuse my lousy photography.

[TARDIS]

Great review except I can't see any photo's??

[Letsgodiving]

Great review except I can't see any photo's??

X2 :thumbsup:

[Robb]

Great review!!! I would love to have one with the white dial!!

[jasonbellevue]

Gary, I have fixed the pictures for you. BTW, great review and beautiful pictures, thanks for sharing! :thumbsup: :cheers:

Omega Seamaster 300M GMT and some comparisons with the Rolex GMT

The dial of the watch has a guilloche wave pattern that varies in different shades of light. Omega write “chronometer” etc., over the wave pattern and the finishing detail of the dial under a loup is amazing. The minute markers are much like the early eighties Rolex GMT, that is longer in length. The 24 hour hand appears a slightly darker red than the Rolex version, with a smaller, more subtle triangle at the end. While the dial is black, compared with Rolex’s dials it appears more dark anthracite and is not glossed.

The sword hands and hour markers are oversized allowing for a large coverage of Super-LumiNova. In addition, Omega use color C3, (yellow) as this glows brighter than any other Super-LumiNova color, making this the best low light dial I have experienced. It also makes the markers appear light green in most light because they are glowing so brightly. Whether this bothers you or not is a matter of personal taste. Although you cannot see it in my photos, the hour markers are surrounded by a thick white line that gives them more definition than my pictures show.

The movement is Omega’s cal. 1128, a modified ETA 2892-A2 movement. It’s the Omega cal.1120 with a GMT function. I am not qualified to comment further on the movement other than to say the cal.1120 is highly regarded as a reliable work horse by Omega enthusiasts.

It uses the Incabloc shock system (Omega rates the 1128 as withstanding up to 5000G), rather than Rolex’s improved kif shock system. The hours hands jump forward or backwards just like the Rolex GMT, although they feel much more positive than the Rolex GMT, with no slack. Like the Rolex, you loose the quick set date and the Omega date mechanism does not change on the strike of midnight.

Since I have only owned this watch two months I cannot comment on long term accuracy, but until now my watch has gained 2 seconds a day – a minute a month. I wrote to Omega and asked them to send me my watches actual COSC certificate, which they kindly did, which is a nice touch.

The bezel has a somewhat “tinny” feel to it unlike the more solid feel of the Rolex bezel. The bezel insert cannot be changed; instead you have the change the whole Bezel. It also has smooth edges, which I have not found a problem, but it would be if you have wet hands. I have accidently moved the bezel several times and I would prefer it was harder to turn. Just like the Rolex, there are 120 clicks to one rotation.

The Crown is a little small and too recessed. The former is not a problem but I have no idea why Omega thought they needed to recess the crown so much. On the underside of the watch it’s not recessed. The best crown I have seen on a watch is Rolex's Triplock.

The bracelet is solid 316L stainless steel and extremely comfortable, so much so that I often don’t bother to take it off at night. There is absolutely no rattle to this bracelet. The clasp is prone to scratching but a fiberglass pen or a Scotch-Bite pad fixes this. The only downside to this strap which may bother most people is that it has no user adjustment. Unless you are competent to adjust a pin bracelet it’s off to the watchmaker if you want adjustments between summer and winter as you wrist size changes.

The case is also stainless 316L. I don’t have a caliper or a scale but this watch is definitely heavier than my Rolex Submariner and although about the same depth, is more contoured to the wrist, so appears to sit a little lower. Although it's not printed on the dial, the GMT is rated to 1000 feet.

The price is $2500.00 MSRP but you can find great discounts. Full GMT functionality, excellent timekeeping, impeccable finishing of the dial, case and bracelet, and a great tool watch design for less than half the price of the Rolex. You can’t beat that.:thumbsup:

I hope you enjoyed my review. Excuse my lousy photography.

http://i.pbase.com/o6/87/725387/1/86167409.mnBHLsOG.20070923IMG_0440.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/o6/87/725387/1/84863207.I1UMOZpF.200708300019.jpg

[CPTL]

Great review of a great watch.

X2, Robb. I'm longing for the Seamaster GMT white-dial. They're getting hard to find, and almost non-existent at a discount. Which is lame, because I can't see paying $2500 for the white-dial when you can easily get the black-dial for $1800.

I couldn't see the pics either, so I'll post my own!

[Lol-x]

Great review Gary :thumbsup:
Unfortunately I can't see the photos, it it possible to post them in this thread, and I'll try and fix them up in the original review.
I have been waiting for this watch myself for about 1 month now, and I will have it within the next 48 hours, so your review was very timely for me :thumbsup:
A couple of things.
I'm happy to hear that you were able to get the COSC report, I'd love to do that too for my watch, if I can.
Also, I was interested to hear that you can't change the bezel insert but have to replace the whole bezel. So my question is if I want the style of bezel insert that goes on the white dial for my black dial GMT will I be able to do so, or will I have problems? Are Omeaga as strict as Rolex about changing bezel inserts? :cheers:

[Perdu]

I'll try posting the pictures again. You can sometimes see the white dial come up on timezone. It has an all brushed finish whereas the black version is polished.

Omega will send you the COSC certificate if you email Omega customer service. They will want a copy of your warranty with the watch serial number, but you can scan it in or fax it. You can replace the bezel. Omega won't do it for you (like Rolex they won't switch the bezel), but you can buy the replacement for about $180 dollars from otto frei. If you order it from Omega, be sure to tell them you have the white version. One other thing. The Omega is 41mm, just 1mm larger than the Rolex, but it wears a lot larger and you can immediately see the difference.

Thanks for the kind comments guys.

http://www.pbase.com/gsl007/product_shots__temp

[frostie]

Great review :thumbsup:

[Lol-x]

Thanks for the information Gary, looking forward to receiving mine tomorrow, got it for only $1,050 so I'm pretty happy about that compared to the $5,950 price tag of the GMTIIC :clap:

[Perdu]

You're welcome, Steve. I just added a couple of scratches under a lug while changing my strap - I put on a black DeBeer. Well now it's christened. Let us all know what you think of it when it arrives. I think it's unbeatable for the price and you got an amazing deal. I assume it's not brand new!

[BLSampson]

This review is between two GMTs, which BTW is great, but the pics are of a GMT and a Sub:thinking:

[Lol-x]

This review is between two GMTs, which BTW is great, but the pics are of a GMT and a Sub:thinking:

The review is about the Omega GMT that is all. The photos are of that watch only. There is no Sub in this review, have a look at the first post.

[TARDIS]

There's no doubt...they are a beaut watch...when you can find one!

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f96/Toowoomba/omegaseamasterGMT.jpg

Cheers
Steve

[Perdu]

This review is between two GMTs, which BTW is great, but the pics are of a GMT and a Sub:thinking:

Good point. I could not figure out how to post my GMT photos so I gave a link to where I have the pictures hosted. I also have pics. of a sub. in that same gallery and they are nothing to do with the review.

[Ed Rooney]

Good review. I have a need for a GMT and the Omegas are beautiful. I can stomach the price much more easily than a second Rolex.

[T5AUS]

Thanks for the information Gary, looking forward to receiving mine tomorrow, got it for only $1,050 so I'm pretty happy about that compared to the $5,950 price tag of the GMTIIC :clap:

Great price for a cool looking watch Steve. Did you find it in Melbourne for that price ? :thumbsup:

[Lol-x]

Daaayyyymmn, I got this watch 10 minutes ago and I am very very impressed!

Right off the top the leather box is awesome.

I'm off now to get the bracelet sized and I will let you guys know later.

Phil: No, got it from Japan, those prices quoted are AUD too :clap: first class service all the way, wish I could read what they wrote to me about (maybe it says 'made in China') (joke).

No kidding I'm really impressed. :thumbsup:

[Lubrifar]

Daaayyyymmn, I got this watch 10 minutes ago and I am very very impressed!

Right off the top the leather box is awesome.

I'm off now to get the bracelet sized and I will let you guys know later.

Phil: No, got it from Japan, those prices quoted are AUD too :clap: first class service all the way, wish I could read what they wrote to me about (maybe it says 'made in China') (joke).

No kidding I'm really impressed. :thumbsup:

Congrats Steve! :thumbsup:

I've been loving my SMP 300M Ti since I got it couple weeks ago; you gonna love the comfort of the speedie bracelet once sized right. Now if the GMT is available in Ti with the Ti 300M style bezel in black waved dial without the white outline date box, I would be all over it.

We will require a show-and-tell when you get a chance. ;)

[JJ Irani]

Excellent review, Gary.

Agreed!! For someone who has a limited budget, but still wants one helluva damn good watch, you can NEVER go wrong with the OMEGA GMT ones pictured above.

I've seen both, the black and white dials, in person.....and both are absolutely superb in looks, finish and overall quality.

Excellent discounts too are possible and as far as value for money goes, those two babies beat 'em all!!! :thumbsup:

[Lol-x]

I have just made a few quick pics before the sun goes down.
The dial is incredible on this watch the hands and lume are as clear as crystal.
The owners instruction manual is a hard bound volume.
The credit card pouch is soft white leather.
The inner box is also soft leather (red) with a steel crest.
I can't believe how good this watch is in terms of it's visual impact and value for money.:joy::joy::joy::joy::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[T5AUS]

Looks fabulous Steve, and for just over a grand is incredibly good value :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[frostie]

The black dial is really nice also

[Teofilo]

I have never seen one in person. It looks like it hasnt got a fugly cyclops, which must be a huge bonus..............great looking watch.

[frostie]

I have never seen one in person. It looks like it hasnt got a fugly cyclops, which must be a huge bonus..............great looking watch.

I saw one from close here at an AD. The watch looks great on photos but believe me in reality it looks even greater.

[Perdu]

Here it is on a black strap (DeBeer Sports Leather 20/16). Really changes the look of the watch.

Sorry can't get this picture to show. I have it hosted on a photo site and I'm clicking the picture Icon and putting in the location address. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
http://i.pbase.com/o3/87/725387/1/89534843.60OqUMze.20071126IMG_0588.jpg

[frostie]

Here it is on a black strap (DeBeer Sports Leather 20/16). Really changes the look of the watch.
http://i.pbase.com/g3/87/725387/2/89530443.mBmDYGe2.jpg

Where is the pic?

[Lol-x]

Gary it seems that your host server for photos has problems with photos loaded onto other sites such as this site, as there have been a number of problems with your photographs showing on the forum, and you have linked correctly.
Some photo host companies do not allow links to photos to be placed on other web-sites and so that is where I think the problem is to be found.

[Perdu]

Thanks Steve, I'll call pbase. BTW, I'm pleased you like the GMT. Personally I think you can't beat it. So far, I'm really impressed.

[Lol-x]

Straight out of the mailbox, this watch was operating without ever having to be manually wound. I've had this watch on for 24 hours now and it has gained 2 seconds, well within chronometer specifications.
The lume at night is like a beacon. :thumbsup:

[FBender]

Very nice, enjoy:thumbsup:

[jasonbellevue]

Here it is on a black strap (DeBeer Sports Leather 20/16). Really changes the look of the watch.

Sorry can't get this picture to show. I have it hosted on a photo site and I'm clicking the picture Icon and putting in the location address. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.


Here's your picture Gary...

[jasonbellevue]

Gary, I have fixed the pictures for you. BTW, great review and beautiful pictures, thanks for sharing! :thumbsup: :cheers:

Here's another stab at showing your pictures Gary. :thumbsup: :cheers:

[Perdu]

Jason, How are you getting these to show up? Are you moving them to your web hosting site?

[JJ Irani]

That black dial looks absolutely stunning.

Just a pity that OMEGA don't use white gold for their hands and markers.

JJ

[Rockrolex]

I have never seen one in person. It looks like it hasnt got a fugly cyclops, which must be a huge bonus..............great looking watch.
Funny, that's the one thing I thought was missing from an otherwise good looking watch.

[Rockrolex]

Straight out of the mailbox, this watch was operating without ever having to be manually wound. I've had this watch on for 24 hours now and it has gained 2 seconds, well within chronometer specifications.
The lume at night is like a beacon. :thumbsup:
So how long is the battery good for, Steve? :rofl::rofl:

[Perdu]

Funny, that's the one thing I thought was missing from an otherwise good looking watch.

In these pictures the markers are painted on. The hour hands look flat, but the lume is applied in a a mound onto a flat surface so they look somewhat 3d when you see the watch in person. I thought I wouldn't like them but I do. Definitely not the Rolex applied markers, but they give a real tool watch look.

[Lol-x]

That black dial looks absolutely stunning.

Just a pity that OMEGA don't use white gold for their hands and markers.

JJ

The hands are made of a white (silver) metal material. It looks every bit as shiny as any pair of Rolex hands I've ever seen. :thinking:
The hands are black on the white face model obviously for contrast reasons with the dial much the same way as the white dial ExplorerII emulated that look :chuckle:.
The dial is made like the way Rolex used to make their tool watch dials, that is of course before Rolex went bling bling with their white gold hour marker cabochons. Take a look at all the classics 1680, 1665, 1675 etc.
On all the current Rolex I would prefer to see the white gold hour markers dropped and that substituted with a larger (equal size to the white hold surrounds) lume provided.

Funny, that's the one thing I thought was missing from an otherwise good looking watch.
:chuckle: :chuckle: If you look at the date window, you can see a white locating frame. This makes it very easy to see the date. Then notice how the date is printed in white on a black background, again a feature not seen on Rolex. The Omega GMT date is much more readily readable in comparison to a Rolex without the cyclops so I guess that's why Rolex has a cyclops and Omega doesn't. :joy:

So how long is the battery good for, Steve? :rofl::rofl:
Thanks Ed, I can well understand due to the quality and engineering of the Omega GMT that you might have mistaken it for that of quartz performance. :chuckle: :chuckle: It is always good to get kind words from another when one gets a new timepiece :rofl::rofl::rofl::cheers::twit:

[mailman]

I think it's a great looking watch Steve. :thumbsup: Good luck with it. Mind me asking you where you picked it up from?

[Lol-x]

I got the Seamaster GMT from a grey market dealer in Japan. The dealer wouldn't deal with me so I had to go through a local Japanese friend who has a neice living in Japan.
Took me 4 weeks to get it but it was worth the wait, as you might guess I'm shocked at how much this smiles at me :joy: :joy:

[Perdu]

Mine has gained six seconds in seven days. It was keeping time to 2 seconds a day, but after about six weeks it settled down more. But the real test will be how the GMT performs over 4, 5, 6 years. For mine Steve, best timekeeping is when I wear it 24 hours a day, or when I place it crown up at night. My Submariner keeps time to 3 seconds a day - still very respectable.

[jasonbellevue]

Jason, How are you getting these to show up? Are you moving them to your web hosting site?

I didn't have to Gary, I just right clicked and save them on my computer and uploaded it to TRF. I'm not sure why the pictures are not showing up for some of the members, but I saw it right from the start. It could be browser related incompatibility issues, FWIW, i'm using IE7. :thumbsup: :cheers:

[jasonbellevue]

I got the Seamaster GMT from a grey market dealer in Japan. The dealer wouldn't deal with me so I had to go through a local Japanese friend who has a neice living in Japan.
Took me 4 weeks to get it but it was worth the wait, as you might guess I'm shocked at how much this smiles at me :joy: :joy:

Very nice looking Omega Steve, Congratulations! :thumbsup: :clap:

[johan]

superb...

any comments on the resale value for both???

[Lol-x]

Another photo :clap::clap: :smokin: :cheers:

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Very nice Omega, Steve! :thumbsup:

I bet it has an awsome lume!

:cheers:

[Perdu]

http://i.pbase.com/o3/87/725387/1/89657521.aBBFurza.20071129IMG_0597.jpg

. . . still trying, bare with me folks.

[Lol-x]

superb...
any comments on the resale value for both???
Resale is an interesting topic. I think you can get one new for around US$1800. I bought mine used for US$1050. I have seen them used on e-bay go for around $1,300.
Long term I have confidence, that with the cessation of production occurring, the price/value of this model will go up.
It is a really well rounded piece from Omega that I feel will stand the test of time exceedingly well.

[ROGERB]

I must agree on the GMT... I originally purchased a SMP Ti but then returned it and found a white SMP GMT which I've found to be a nice alternative to my SS Sub date. The GMT is not THE GMT... but it's close!
R:thumbsup:

[GR8YT]

Both the 300m and planet ocean models of the seamaster smiles at me just as much as the submariner. They look soo much better in reality then any photo can tell! The feel and finish of Omega's are second to none!!!

[fmalloy]

My first post!

I'm an Omega guy (blue dial Aqua Terra and Speedmaster Professional), and looking to add a GMT. I never considered Rolex before (a bit too expensive, I thought), and ignorant of the brand details, but after stumbling upon the new SS GMT-II I got interested. :thumbsup: I'm big on history (hence the Speedy Pro) and as a traveler I appreciate the story of the GMT and PanAm pilots. That's worth a lot, but $3K worth over the Omega...I'm not sure...

So, it's the Seamaster GMT vs. the GMT-Master II. There is a chance I may add a Rolex to my Omegas...looking to you all to help guide me along...

Until then, it is truly nice to see an adult discussion of Omega and Rolex without resorting to bloodshed. Nice compliments on Omega from Rolex fans. Well done, guys. Think I'll hang around... :thumbsup:

Frank

[Teofilo]

My first post!

I'm an Omega guy (blue dial Aqua Terra and Speedmaster Professional), and looking to add a GMT. I never considered Rolex before (a bit too expensive, I thought), and ignorant of the brand details, but after stumbling upon the new SS GMT-II I got interested. :thumbsup: I'm big on history (hence the Speedy Pro) and as a traveler I appreciate the story of the GMT and PanAm pilots. That's worth a lot, but $3K worth over the Omega...I'm not sure...

So, it's the Seamaster GMT vs. the GMT-Master II. There is a chance I may add a Rolex to my Omegas...looking to you all to help guide me along...

Until then, it is truly nice to see an adult discussion of Omega and Rolex without resorting to bloodshed. Nice compliments on Omega from Rolex fans. Well done, guys. Think I'll hang around... :thumbsup:

Frank

Welcome to the Forum Frank.........most of the guys on the Forum are long time watch fans, who can appreciate beauty and quality in other brands, as well as in our fave (Rolex).....

[wtcope]

Fantastic looking watch. Great pictures. Thanks guys. Am looking for this one in Melbourne if anyone knows of any good ADs. Thanks.

[Teofilo]

Great to see this classic review thread pop up again........
This review was one of the main reasons I started thinking about an SMP GMT.....
Very glad I got one, as it's a fantastic watch...