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Tools
21 January 2008, 04:00 AM
Explorer II Reference Numbers: 1655, 16550, 16570, 216570
Date of production: 1971 until present.
Movement: 1575, 3085, 3185/3186 - 216570, 3187
Case Size: 40mm - 216570, 42mm
Weight: 126 grams
Power Reserve: ~48 hrs
Photographs:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa67/LD_album/Explorer/blackdial.jpg
White Explorer II--D series
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/mike381/whiteexp.jpg
White Dial - P serial
200384
Last of the 16570's, G serial.
200380
reference 1655, 5 mil. 1575 movement, luminous dot on seconds hand.
(Photo curtesy of Mike)
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/mike381/116_163850.jpg
216570 (Rolex Press Kit photo)
200381
http://www.rolexforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=196638&d=1301283962
Rebel
28 August 2009, 12:53 AM
I'd love me one of those Steve McQueen Explorer IIs.
greekbum
15 September 2009, 04:41 AM
16570
uberman20
22 September 2009, 07:16 AM
I am hoping to get a 16550: and this thread is super helpful! Thanks all!
paultran37
28 February 2010, 01:40 PM
Had one but sold it.
sea-dweller
28 February 2010, 02:59 PM
Great photos and info.
not_a_doctor
14 March 2010, 06:55 AM
I know the current 16570 is waterproof to 100m, but does anyone know if the Explorer II has had different waterproof certifications throughout its run?
nad
Tools
14 March 2010, 08:17 AM
I know the current 16570 is waterproof to 100m, but does anyone know if the Explorer II has had different waterproof certifications throughout its run?
nad
The Explorer II has always had a 100meter waterproof Oyster case.
not_a_doctor
14 March 2010, 09:29 AM
The Explorer II has always had a 100meter waterproof Oyster case.
Thanks for the info!
rfknauss
14 March 2010, 10:02 AM
Larry, the Explorer II is a true classic Rolex ......... personally I prefer the white dial. :thumbsup:
:cheers:
Dr. Robert
14 March 2010, 02:41 PM
The Explorer II...........the stealth Rolex!
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll230/DrRobert1951/DSCN0534.jpg
risico
14 March 2010, 05:08 PM
Thanks Tools for this excellent review, the white dial explorer is really something!
Poom
14 March 2010, 07:12 PM
I hv 10 Rolex sport, you named it, but just bought Ex II Black yesterday, I feel EX II is the most comfortabe watch to wear and the beauty will gradually shine up to be one of the most beautiful Rolex sport watch, once you look at its dial for 1 minute, this is great watch which I think will be the colletable item in near future. I love ex II.
faingator
14 March 2010, 11:15 PM
just got the white dial explorer II and loving it. It's my new to me work watch. Amazing fit and finish
DOUBLE 0 SE7EN
14 March 2010, 11:19 PM
Everyday I love my polar more and more...
teeva3333
24 March 2010, 12:15 AM
The Explorer II...........the stealth Rolex!
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll230/DrRobert1951/DSCN0534.jpg
Dr. Robert, is that orange hand 5 million series? The font on bezel looks thinner than the older version. Correct me if I am wrong.
ron
kingblackbolt
24 March 2010, 01:13 AM
Great thread here! I started a recent one for pics and information here if anyone wants to see some good shots...
http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=1737747#post1737747
Cru Jones
24 March 2010, 09:42 PM
thanks for the nice pictures and reference material!
question: i notice some people refer to the dial being white, and some people say polar....is there a preferred term? a correct term? :thinking:
TIA....
Lol-x
24 March 2010, 09:54 PM
Polar white is the colour of the dial. Some say white and some say polar, its all the same, unless it is cream :banghead: :banghead:
Cru Jones
25 March 2010, 11:33 PM
Link to another forum thread with an informative overview of the Explorers: http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost.php?p=1742753&postcount=71
mhmfao
26 March 2010, 02:38 PM
ALCON,
I just bought an immaculate black face 16570 (P-series circa 2000, overhauled in 2007 for $3,000.00USD) and have two questions:
1) The 16570 does not have its waterproof rating of 100m/330ft on the face of its oyster case. Why is that? I would think it should since the watch is designed for rough duty.
2) Is the 16570 sufficiently waterproof to shower and swim in daily (hot and cold water conditions)? Note: I'm not a diver and therefore not concerned with the more extreme depth and pressure requirements associated with the sport.
BACKGROUND: I wanted a watch that I could wear where ever I go 24/7/365--like it's a part of my body. The 16570 is the only watch I've found that is: 1) comfortable to the point that I forget I'm wearing it; 2) appropriate to wear in any social situation; and 3) appropriate to wear with any kind of clothes. Obviously, wearing it everywhere all the time will cause more wear and require more cleaning, but I'm okay with that as long as doing so does not damage the watch. After five years or so, as the watch begins to show wear, I will likely buy a 116710LN GMT II (black face, black ceramic bezel) for more formal/dressier occasions.
All comments welcome.
V/R,
MM
Dr. Robert
27 March 2010, 02:58 AM
You got a great Rolex. The Rolex Expl. 2...............the stealth Rolex! You can swim w/ it....I don't wear watches in bath, shower, hot tub, steam room or sauna......but swimming...fresh or salt water no problems....I have 2 1655 Expl. 2's, both purchased new and they're bulletproof!
Had them renovated in 2005....
1973 Expl. 2 # 1655
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll230/DrRobert1951/DSCN0503.jpg
1974 Expl. 2 #1655
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll230/DrRobert1951/DSCN0534.jpg
RickRolex
27 March 2010, 04:44 AM
Is there any difference between the Explorer II series Z and any of the prior series? I don't understand the concept of series. Many thanks.
Mr. Greene
9 April 2010, 01:09 PM
I have an Explorer II orange hand and love the look. i should be getting it back from Rolex after some TLC in about another week. :cheers:
Autobot
20 April 2010, 04:44 AM
In regards to the EXP II orange hand, is there any weight to the rumor that maybe next years model may be bringing this back? Thanks
brigadoonb
6 May 2010, 03:43 AM
I love the classic!
Mendota
6 May 2010, 04:52 AM
In regards to the EXP II orange hand, is there any weight to the rumor that maybe next years model may be bringing this back? Thanks
There is a Rolex video with Basel 2010 highlights. You can watch it on Youtube so just Google it or search within Youtube. In the video there is clearly an Exp II with the new maxi case, triplock crown, new style Oyster band with GMTIIc clasp, and orange GMT hand. Word is Rolex didn't want to steal the thunder from the new Exp 1 release this year, so the redesigned Exp II won't be coming out until Basel 2011. The video was made prior to Basel, so that's why both the Exp 1 and II are both in the video.
Autobot
6 May 2010, 09:11 AM
Yeah I caught that the other day, now I just have to wait a year for the watch to be released....
Roley
18 May 2010, 12:58 AM
I'm still looking for a 1655 with a straight second hand! :thumbsup:
E.Peynado
18 May 2010, 03:11 AM
3.0 M serial , all original
Roley
19 May 2010, 07:33 AM
WOW!! :wow: Very nice E.Peynado!. :thumbsup:
Roley
19 May 2010, 07:59 AM
3.0 M serial , all original OOPS!! Forgot to quote...but I'll compliment your 1655, straight second hand again. :thumbsup:
Mr. Greene
20 May 2010, 06:57 AM
I just got my orange hand back from Rolex after some desperatly needed work I know I probably lost some collector value but the watch was in pretty bad shape and I had them replace the hands and dial, along with the servicing and replacement of the bracelet. but it looks extremely good, like I assume it looked when my Uncle bought it originally. I just wish he saved the box. now I have the daily dilema of which watch to wear, the Exp, or the Sub.
tep663
10 August 2010, 10:57 PM
my dad has a rolex explorer II orange hand and somebody tokk it in his house... waaaaahhhh!!!!! missed that watch.....most rolex lovers liked it compared to my M series explorer II hahaha...
Brich436
17 August 2010, 01:06 PM
Hello everyone,
I have a question. I just received a new Explorer 2 white face as a gift and I noticed that my Exp 2 does not have the ROLEXROLEXROLEX inscribed on the inside of the inner ring of the dial. The photograph on Rolex's website shows this feature on the Exp 2.
Does anyone know when Rolex added this feature? My Exp 2 was purchased new from an AD in June of 2010.
Thanks
wisguy
17 August 2010, 01:44 PM
Hello everyone,
I have a question. I just received a new Explorer 2 white face as a gift and I noticed that my Exp 2 does not have the ROLEXROLEXROLEX inscribed on the inside of the inner ring of the dial. The photograph on Rolex's website shows this feature on the Exp 2.
Does anyone know when Rolex added this feature? My Exp 2 was purchased new from an AD in June of 2010.
Thanks
Do you have the serial number? That will tell you the year of production and the answer to your question, should it have it or not?
DM101
17 August 2010, 04:01 PM
Hello everyone,
I have a question. I just received a new Explorer 2 white face as a gift and I noticed that my Exp 2 does not have the ROLEXROLEXROLEX inscribed on the inside of the inner ring of the dial. The photograph on Rolex's website shows this feature on the Exp 2.
Does anyone know when Rolex added this feature? My Exp 2 was purchased new from an AD in June of 2010.
Thanks
Earlier batch of Z series doers not come with this ROLEX ROLEX rehaut/engraving. Like this piece of mine... a studio shot of my EXPLORER 2 :clap:
Brich436
17 August 2010, 09:48 PM
Do you have the serial number? That will tell you the year of production and the answer to your question, should it have it or not?
How do I determine the serial number? I think it's underneath the band at 6 o'clock. I'm not quiet sure how to take the band off of the watch?
Brich436
19 August 2010, 10:46 AM
Do you have the serial number? That will tell you the year of production and the answer to your question, should it have it or not?
The serial number is Z706XXX
Thanks for the information.
calibre1
31 August 2010, 06:52 PM
Hi, I am just curious about the material used to make the hands and black rim around the luminova dots. Are those white gold painted black or just stainless steel painted black?
Also what's the dial made of...what's behind the white paint?
That would be interested to know.
Thanks ! Cheers!:cheers::cheers:
tomchicago
4 September 2010, 03:05 AM
Hi, I am just curious about the material used to make the hands and black rim around the luminova dots. Are those white gold painted black or just stainless steel painted black?
Also what's the dial made of...what's behind the white paint?
That would be interested to know.
Thanks ! Cheers!:cheers::cheers:
x2 :thumbsup:
Tools
4 September 2010, 09:52 AM
Hi, I am just curious about the material used to make the hands and black rim around the luminova dots. Are those white gold painted black or just stainless steel painted black?
Also what's the dial made of...what's behind the white paint?
That would be interested to know.
Thanks ! Cheers!:cheers::cheers:
The dial is painted brass, the same as most other Rolex Dials..
The hands and hour markers are 18k gold, painted black... (and red)
http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr202/WatchWorkshop/Dials-Hands-Movements/CurvedHand3.jpg
calibre1
4 September 2010, 01:24 PM
The dial is painted brass, the same as most other Rolex Dials..
The hands and hour markers are 18k gold, painted black... (and red)
http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr202/WatchWorkshop/Dials-Hands-Movements/CurvedHand3.jpg
Thanks Larry
That is very interesting indeed.:thumbsup:
From your picture, the sides and unpainted portion of hands does looks silver-ish.
I actually thought that the hands and hour markers were the same as those in the submariners i.e white gold but painted in black and red. :thinking:
Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks a lot Larry!!:cheers:
Aspirin
9 September 2010, 01:36 AM
I know the current 16570 is waterproof to 100m, but does anyone know if the Explorer II has had different waterproof certifications throughout its run?
nad
It seems that Rolex left this empty!
Hluot
11 September 2010, 04:36 AM
16570
According to the the official rolex web site (http://www.rolex.com/en) is mention that the E2 was launched in 1971.
So now I'm a little confused: 1971 or 1972?
Fab75
9 November 2010, 02:20 AM
I also love my explo 2
http://images3.photomania.com/635416/1/rad2400A.jpg (http://www.photomania.com/)
cgjane
17 January 2011, 05:14 AM
I'll add my DLC to the thread:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/gw4k/P1030116800x600.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/gw4k/P1030117800x600.jpg
JCSA
9 February 2011, 01:24 AM
I love the white dial it´s a classic,as for the Daytona SS.My collection is no 4 Rolex´s two white dial and two black,Daytona SS,Exp. II,Submariner and a GMT II.
capote
10 April 2011, 01:01 AM
According to Rolex.com the EX2 was introduced 1971, and that must have been the 1655. When was the 16550 and 16570 introduced?
edbsbc78
16 April 2011, 08:36 AM
Thanks Larry,
Great article on Explorer II.
I have a 16570 Black dial, and after all theses years, i still find myself staring at it in awe of its "beauty."
Cheers!
rvmeeker
16 April 2011, 06:42 PM
I, too, have attempted to discern the chronological time-line for, and the exact differences between, the various Explorer II models. I understand that the original 1655 was introduced in 1971, but the exact model-year dates for the 16550 and 16570 are unclear to me. I'm pretty sure that the sapphire crystal was introduced in 1986, but don't know if this was on the 16550 or the 16570 model. Finally, I've seen references to D, G, M, N, V and Z-Series (and probably others). Do these series designations simply refer to the year of manufacture, or are there specific features that distinguish one series from another? When did the orange 24-hour hand change from orange to red? When did the bracelets change? When was the super luminova paint added? When was the rehaut inscription added? I've searched the forum and web for clear answers to clear up this confusion, but have failed to find any definitive model and series historical time-line. Can anyone enlighten me?
Mucho Mahalo,
Roger
Kapoho, Hawaii
capote
16 April 2011, 08:40 PM
I, too, have attempted to discern the chronological time-line for, and the exact differences between, the various Explorer II models. I understand that the original 1655 was introduced in 1971, but the exact model-year dates for the 16550 and 16570 are unclear to me. I'm pretty sure that the sapphire crystal was introduced in 1986, but don't know if this was on the 16550 or the 16570 model. Finally, I've seen references to D, G, M, N, V and Z-Series (and probably others). Do these series designations simply refer to the year of manufacture, or are there specific features that distinguish one series from another? When did the orange 24-hour hand change from orange to red? When did the bracelets change? When was the super luminova paint added? When was the rehaut inscription added? I've searched the forum and web for clear answers to clear up this confusion, but have failed to find any definitive model and series historical time-line. Can anyone enlighten me?
Mucho Mahalo,
Roger
Kapoho, Hawaii
I can only answer a few of those questions - I'm not a full blown WIS yet. There are no official data as to when a certain series was produced but fans has but together lists online. The 1655 is the only model with an orange arrow shaped 24-hour hand. The 16550 has GMT shaped red hand but it is still fixed to the hour hand so it is a 24-hour hand. The 16570 has the same movement as the GMT 16710 so the 24-hour hand is actually an independent GMT hand. For the new model coming out this year 216570 the original 1655 hand has made a comeback, with a larger case and a new movement, 3187.
I think the change from tritium to luminova took place around 1998. The engraved rehaut started around 2007 on the EXP2 I think. For the 16570 there was also an updated movement 3186, for the models with the engraved rehaut and possible in some without the rehaut.
rvmeeker
17 April 2011, 05:25 AM
Thanks, Daniel. I really appreciate your response. Can anybody else shed light on what distinguishes one series from another? D vs. M vs. V vs. Z, etc. To be honest, I'm not even certain whether the letter designations are even chronological, as I believe that JJ mentioned that the V-Series (apparently the latest) has the 3186 movement.
Roger
Edwin Ong
27 June 2011, 12:16 AM
I love this complete orange hand !
De Sisti
2 December 2011, 07:52 AM
Excuse me for jumping into this discussion. I'm only doing so because I've sent
my Explorer II off for servicing (bought in 1994, serial S6*****). When I bought
it, it looked great to me. Now, with my eyesight failing, I find it difficult to focus
on it. A colleague in work had a similar model, but with a cream coloured dial. I
could focus on it with no problems.
I've read somewhere that these cream dials weren't produced for very long and
that they are very rare. Has anyone heard of someone having their white dial
repainted to cream? I'm very tempted to purchase a black dial, as the contrast
of the different colour hands and hour markers will make it easier for me to focus on.
dan5
3 December 2011, 05:35 AM
Hello Gents,
I saw a expoler ii for sale buy trusted sell today....Can anyone please educate me on the year and movement of this model. 16570 snd Serial Y 822xxxxx. Thanks
capote
3 December 2011, 10:21 AM
Excuse me for jumping into this discussion. I'm only doing so because I've sent
my Explorer II off for servicing (bought in 1994, serial S6*****). When I bought
it, it looked great to me. Now, with my eyesight failing, I find it difficult to focus
on it. A colleague in work had a similar model, but with a cream coloured dial. I
could focus on it with no problems.
I've read somewhere that these cream dials weren't produced for very long and
that they are very rare. Has anyone heard of someone having their white dial
repainted to cream? I'm very tempted to purchase a black dial, as the contrast
of the different colour hands and hour markers will make it easier for me to focus on.
First off, welcome :cheers: Second: You're not really jumping into any discussion, this thread has been dead for 6 months :chuckle: Anyway, the cream colour was a factory defect. They started out white and turned cream colour later on. They are way more expensive than the ordinary white ones since people tend to like collecting defect Rolexes. I have never heard of anybody trying to repaint the dial though.
capote
3 December 2011, 10:28 AM
Hello Gents,
I saw a expoler ii for sale buy trusted sell today....Can anyone please educate me on the year and movement of this model. 16570 snd Serial Y 822xxxxx. Thanks
Welcome :cheers: If the watch has a ROLEXROLEXROLEX engraved rehaut, it has the 3186 movement, which was the last one for this model. The earlier had a 3185 movement. There are/were some internet hype with the later movement, but IMO its not worth the premium of getting the 3186. Since the new Explorer II 216570 has the newer 3187 movement they are infact both obsolete. Not familiar with the different serials but If the watch in question has lug holes its an older model.
De Sisti
4 December 2011, 07:36 AM
@ Capote, thanks for the welcome. I have decided on a black dial for my watch's
new look. I'm having it serviced by a former Rolex service engineer. He has all of
the requisite tools and can get hold of genuine parts. I'm been charged £175,
plus whatever the new dial costs. I was quoted £435 by Rolex of London, and
£450 by Watches of Switzerland in Manchester. The dealer who's servicing mine
said the the 7 week wait quoted by Rolex for the servicing is just to justify the
£400+.
On 23 November I sent off my Zeno Explorer (looks like an Explorer I) to Switzerland
and my Traser Classic automatic to Hampshire for servicing. Both are being returned,
fully serviced. They both have ETA 2824-2 movements. Servicing costs were; Zeno Explorer
CHF 105 (about £105); the Traser £85. Once I have all of my 3 watches back,
fully serviced, I'll probably shelve my plans of looking for a Tudor Submariner.
Rsvrider
6 January 2012, 02:41 AM
Is the 216570 the only 42mm? What was the 1st yr off production/release? Any of you fortunate enough to share a side by side pic of both the 40mm and the 42mm? The more I read about the opinions of owning an ExpII the more I want one. Seems like the perfect daily all arounder. Leaning towards a black faced with OD green NATO. One more thing, would it be wrong to switch the hands to the thicker ones and the big orange hr hand too on a modern?
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