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Tools
24 February 2008, 07:13 AM
Cosmograph Daytona
By LarryD

The Rolex Cosmograph Daytona is arguably, the most well known watch on earth. Say the name Daytona in almost any country and you get nods and murmers of understanding – even if there is an otherwise language barrier.

The Daytona has reached cult status it seems. Look at the wrists of celebrities, the wealthy, and the want-to-be’s. If there is a Daytona there, and there are a lot of them, it will be prominately displayed along with all the other badges and symbols that define us.

Sports watches and chronographs in particular, are constantly being re-defined and transformed, but the Daytona remains largely unchanged (visually) since its release in the early 1960’s.

Rolex introduced their chronograph watches in the 1930’s, with the basic two-button design we are familiar with appearing in 1937 with those watches that contained the Valjoux movement. Our beloved Daytona began to emerge in its present form in 1949 along with the Oyster case and familiar Cosmograh name. Finally, in 1960 with the appearance of the tachymeter scale on the bezel of the Cosmograph reference 6239, rather than on the dial, it morphed into its iconic present configuration.

By 1961 the name Daytona began appearing on the Cosmograph with the 6241 models, but the name stuck after a time and all Cosmos were known eventually as the “Daytona”, even if the name wasn’t there. Today the 6239 and 6241 references, manual wind, non-screw down pushers, are the grail watch for many collectors.

The 1970’s hailed the last major changes to the manual chronograph with the introduction of screw-down pushers in the reference 6263. This change allowed the Daytona to be listed as waterproof to 50 meters, and finally 100 meters in depth. In these early days, only the Gold and Two-Tone models sported “Chronometer” on the dial, the only manual wind models to do so.

The early Daytona used the very reliable Valjoux movement up until 1991 when favor turned to the Zenith El Primero movement which earned its’ place in history in 1969 as the worlds first automatic chronograph movement. Coined the cal. 4030, this impressive workhorse powered the Daytona until Rolex introduction of their own fully patented and in-house built Cal. 4130.

The 4130 Movement:

The latest and possibly best Daytona was introduced at the Basel World Watch and Jewelery Show in March of 2000. The 4130 design allows truly unique actuation for the start/stop/reset mechanics, while taking up less room inside the case allowing a larger, therefore, more accurate or precise balance system. The movement incorporates some important Rolex traits: a balance bridge rather than the usual balance cock seen in other movements; a large balance wheel; and lately, their own Parachrom Bleu in-house hairspring. The 4130 also moved the sub-dial configuration around with the sub-seconds now in the traditional 6 o’clock position rather than the earlier 9 o’clock slot; the sub-minute dial at 3 o’clock, and the sub-hour dial at 9 o’clock. The two horizontal sub-dials are also now 7 degrees above the center shaft rather than straight across as before. It is likely that this configuration was done to thwart counterfeiters.

It is likely the latest Rolex Cosmograph Daytona has firmly cemented itself in horological history both from an engineering perspective, and as a worldwide watch icon.
(Copyright 23 February 2008, Larry Draper)

The Daytona can look intimidating but it is a very simple watch to operate. The 3 sub-dials are, at the 6 o'clock position a standard seconds dial, at 3 o'clock a 30 minute timer for the stopwatch function, and at the 9 o'clock position a 12 hour timer for the stopwatch. The stopwatch is read with the main seconds hand and is activated by the pushers that are located on either side of the Triplock crown. The upper pusher is for start/stop, and the lower pusher is to reset to zero.

The bezel is a standard Tachymetre where the stopwatch is activated when an object first starts/crosses a measured mile/kilometer, and then stopped at the end of the measured distance. An estimate of speed is then read off the bezel.


Daytona Reference Numbers: 116520

Date of production: 2000 to present (for the current 4130 equipped model)

Movement: 4130

Case: 40mm Triplock

Power Reserve: ~72 hours without chronograph engaged

Photographs:

Dial. White
(Photos Courtesy of Mike)
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/mike381/150_5077_BW.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/mike381/clasp.jpg

The 4130 Movement
(Courtesy Web File photo)
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The Daytona bracelet and Clasp is a great improvement over the earlier stamped steel offerings. A Daytona Clasp is a sought after up-grade for any Rolex:
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Beginning in about October of 2008, Rolex seems to have changed the Daytona Clasp to a more modern "channel" construction offering:

(Photo Courtesy Felly Jr.)
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Tools
16 March 2008, 01:43 PM
While all versions of the Daytona with contrasting registers have become 'known' as Paul Newmans, some would argue that the only true Paul Newman models are described as follows: The 6239 and 6241 case numbers, manual wind, stainless steel non-Oyster cases, non-screw-down pushers, and pre-Triplock crown, with either the black dial with white registers, or the cream white dial with black registers--featuring square markers and crossed subdials.



Cream Dial Paul Newman Daytona: (Courtesy jac67; photo by Gedanken)
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa67/LD_album/Daytona/AB6.jpg

Tools
20 March 2008, 03:20 AM
Waterproof Daytona

It seems we get questions about the Daytona and it's waterproof capabilities quite a bit lately.

The Rolex Cosmograph Daytona, with screw down pushers, is waterproof to the same 100m capability of all Oyster Cased Rolexes. The Daytona is waterproof whether the pusher screwlocks are tight or not.

The pushers internal actuation are the weak link for this depth rating and must not be pushed while submerged. To ensure this, screw locks are fitted to each pusher.

The pusher is an assembly that contains it's own internal "O" rings and is screwed into the case with a gasket seal against the case. When the pusher is depressed, it deforms the "O" rings slightly and may allow water to enter the movement through the actuator rod hole. They also may be inadvertantly depressed so the usual mode should be with the pushers screwed down and locked unless in use.

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http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa67/LD_album/Daytona/r20_u21.jpg

Tools
7 April 2008, 02:55 AM
The Latest Rose Gold Daytona.

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Tools
13 May 2008, 12:47 PM
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Lubrifar
13 May 2008, 06:37 PM
What a fine looking chrono! What is the rated depth for water resistance? Can the two pushers operate under pressure? Or does it need to be screwed down?

JJ Irani
13 May 2008, 06:39 PM
What a fine looking chrono! What is the rated depth for water resistance? Can the two pushers operate under pressure? Or does it need to be screwed down?

Rated depth is 100 m.

The pushers need to be screwed down and not advisable for use under water.

JJ

Lubrifar
13 May 2008, 06:42 PM
Thanks JJ! I need a Daytona!

JJ Irani
13 May 2008, 06:43 PM
Thanks JJ! I need a Daytona!

You don't really need one, my friend.....you just want one!! :read::chuckle::chuckle:

Lubrifar
13 May 2008, 06:44 PM
Okay, you are right, I need to want one ... now!

Brandonsan
14 May 2008, 06:21 AM
I want one and need one

rolylover
14 May 2008, 07:28 AM
Got One, 18K with White face. Absolutely Beautiful. Just back from the jewelers.

oneillba
14 May 2008, 08:24 AM
Thanks for the info. Way out of my price range. Maybe if I win the lottery.

-Subsevens
14 May 2008, 08:41 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!! I think I am falling in love...

sam25magic
17 May 2008, 11:56 PM
It is my target but not sure if I can achieve it. Need to wait for it and hopefully get a good price.

bewithabob
24 May 2008, 10:15 PM
Nice review, thank you. The Daytona is a beauty.

simbal
27 May 2008, 08:05 AM
New to the board, great forum, already learned a lot. Now ROlex came out with a Everose Daytona, do you guys think they may come out with a everose tt Daytona? I would love one!
So glad I found the board.

bombay
15 July 2008, 01:56 PM
that Daytona with the metorite dial is awesome!!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

rolexrealtor
16 July 2008, 12:23 AM
That meteorite dial is awesome, but I'll pass on the rose gold...

joesm39
22 July 2008, 03:29 AM
love the rose gold..

force1271
11 August 2008, 10:27 PM
I fell in love with the daytona the first time I saw it. I was in Cegas and was on my way to purchase my third Sub the 18K, when the salesman showed me the 18K daytona withe the MOP dial i instantly purchased it and haven't looked back since.

oztimelord
17 August 2008, 09:32 AM
Thought, I would add some Daytona Tales.

My first introduction to Rolex was a grand experience, as I managed to secure a SS Black Face Z series Daytona. Loved the price point (compared to my Pateks), the accuracy and the 72 hr power reserve which made it the perfect working week watch. Unfortunately it was sacrificed to provide partial funds for my Patek 5100J purchase.

I’m a firm believer that every serious collection needs a ‘Grail Watch’ to effectively act as a foundation stone. With respect to Rolex, my interpretation of this phenomenon is 6263 silver dialled Daytona.

I caught a glimpse of this magnificent beauty about a year ago, however it was not to be mine. About a month ago, as fate would have it, I stumbled into my regular Rolex and Patek AD. Whilst having a general chat about all things watches he mentioned that a former customer sold an old 6263 silver dialled Daytona. Wow I thought to myself !!!!!

As soon as it came back from the Rolex Service Centre, one look and it was mine. :clap::clap:
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn99/OztimelordsPhotos/RenesRolex013.jpg

A wristshot.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn99/OztimelordsPhotos/RenesRolex009.jpg

While waiting for another SS Daytona, I just had to get a black dial 116509 WG, the dial and contrast is just amazing. A new version of the term 'Exotic dial' comes to mind. No wonder Rolex use this one in all their promotion.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn99/OztimelordsPhotos/RenesWGDaytona014.jpg

First impressions are very positive. Love the 'Click' sound when one pushes the chrono button. The power reserve of 72hrs and quick wind-up is very practical. Especially when you want to change watches on weekends.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn99/OztimelordsPhotos/RenesWGDaytona006.jpg

I have to say only Rolex could get away with a full white gold sportswatch with such class. The dial of the 116509 gives a more 'Tres Chic' look and a less formal vibe when compared to the SS models.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn99/OztimelordsPhotos/RenesWGDaytona016.jpg

Still getting used to the weight of the watch on the wrist.:thumbsup:

HDHNTER
18 August 2008, 03:50 AM
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn99/OztimelordsPhotos/RenesRolex013.jpg

A wristshot.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn99/OztimelordsPhotos/RenesRolex009.jpg



This is my Grail without question. Must be a wonderful feeling to have that exquisite piece strapped to your wrist. :cheers:

Cosmographer
19 September 2008, 01:51 PM
That meteorite face is the coolest---but still partial to my white one
Cos

Nikko
20 September 2008, 04:50 AM
Do they all have the Rolex engraving on the inside of the bezel?

hsung
20 September 2008, 10:54 AM
Do they all have the Rolex engraving on the inside of the bezel?

The Rolex engravings were introduced lately to make it more difficult for counterfeits. JHB wrote an article on the evolution of the Daytona at http://www.rolexreferencepage.com/parachrom/parachrom.html :read:

Cosmographer
20 September 2008, 11:27 AM
I believe the engraving is a newer thing--I don't see it on mine (R series 20 yrs. old)
Peace,
Cosmog.

fisk
30 September 2008, 09:44 PM
great watch! got one last month, 116520 white dial. very happy

Greenring
1 October 2008, 12:24 AM
Great posts of a grail (for some) watch. Meteorite dial is fascinating. I'm beginning to understand the WIS tag because I suspect I'm turning into one. :agree:

golfball123
1 October 2008, 12:11 PM
not yet ready for daytona..... looking more to dd ii

fikko
2 October 2008, 02:58 PM
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is it the same for 16523 on the dial info? i feel that white dial is also easier to find than black. while gold dial is the most common and slate dial is the rarest.

wmthedirector
7 October 2008, 12:02 PM
nice job larry,
the stainless steal is awesome, the rose gold too, thanks for posting.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/samsamii/daytona1.jpg

Pulpdiction
9 October 2008, 09:26 AM
Has anyone got a picture of all the dial options on the Daytona, there has been talk of a new dial on the 2-tone, anyone got pics?

MiningGuy
9 October 2008, 12:05 PM
Has anyone got a picture of all the dial options on the Daytona, there has been talk of a new dial on the 2-tone, anyone got pics?

This may help:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=51701

hsung
9 October 2008, 09:41 PM
Also, Jocke took a pic of the new TT dial at http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=52856.

ldmarcht
10 October 2008, 12:26 PM
I have a 2006 white face SS Daytona, I'm very lucky to have it. I've done a cursory scan and have a question about the bezel.

Is the bezel white gold or stainless steel on the SS Daytona? just wondering.

LM

hsung
10 October 2008, 11:09 PM
I believe the bezel is stainless steel on the SS Daytona, but am interested to know if someone can confirm otherwise?

hsung
11 October 2008, 11:15 AM
Does someone know the series and year of the TT Daytona with the gold dial?

I saw a pic in one of the threads, but cannot find it ...

wmthedirector
11 October 2008, 01:07 PM
Thank you Larry, very nice review,

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/samsamii/daytona1.jpg

Mrdi
11 October 2008, 01:41 PM
A Pleasure Tools.

Thanks,

Mrdi

hsung
19 October 2008, 05:04 PM
Does someone know the series and year of the TT Daytona with the gold dial?

I saw a pic in one of the threads, but cannot find it ...

Found the pic of the TT Daytona with the gold dial and black sub dials, but can anyone tell me what series or year was it available, please?

:cheers:

Brian Burrows
19 October 2008, 11:24 PM
My 6263

http://www.volkszone.co.uk/brian/6263.jpg

argee1977
21 October 2008, 05:43 AM
I've started a Daytona kitty to save up, although this is for when they release a new model with a date function, 2012 is my guess.

The GMT Master
6 November 2008, 09:47 AM
I've started a Daytona kitty to save up, although this is for when they release a new model with a date function, 2012 is my guess.

If Rolex haven't felt that the Daytona needs a date in the 50 odd years it's been in existence, I really doubt they'll ever bring one out IMO. I think it would clutter up what's a nice and clean dial.

But hey, I could be proved wrong.

hsung
6 November 2008, 08:52 PM
I agree putting a date in the Daytona will make the currently balanced dial out of place. I have seen other watches put the date in awkward places - e.g., at 4.5 o'clock or inside a sub dial - and it just doesn't look right.

Rolex would also have to come up with a new and more complex movement to accomodate a date, and that will probably affect the current 4180's near perfect time keeping ability.

jdmpower
11 November 2008, 12:30 PM
Yes I agree the date would ruin it