View Full Version : Daytona SS series????
Milgauss2008
22 March 2008, 11:25 AM
What is the difference that a Series makes, i see there has been a demand for F series daytonas and M Series, what is the difference???????
Gaijin
22 March 2008, 07:02 PM
The year in which they were made. M is the newest. F is about 4 years old or so.
SPACE-DWELLER
22 March 2008, 11:32 PM
There is at least one difference. Some F-series Daytonas had the socalled "Skinny" hands.
Click this link (http://www.rolexreferencepage.com/articles/6.html) to see what this is about.
Milgauss2008
23 March 2008, 06:30 AM
i understand that it determines the year of manufacture, Is one series more desired than another?
Gaijin
23 March 2008, 09:13 AM
i understand that it determines the year of manufacture, Is one series more desired than another?
Well, if you want a brand new one go with an M or even a late Z.
Some think that the skinny hands dial is more collectable than the later fat hands versions. Fat hands are easier to read.
Milgauss2008
23 March 2008, 04:13 PM
so i take it there is no difference in the movement????
topcat30093
23 March 2008, 07:47 PM
No the movements are the same.
I believe that it was a roundabout the 2000 that the movement changed from the Zenith to the ALL NEW Rolex movement.
Milgauss2008
24 March 2008, 12:51 PM
now we are getting somewhere, so the movement did change in or around 2000.
great thanks
frostie
24 March 2008, 04:53 PM
now we are getting somewhere, so the movement did change in or around 2000.
great thanks
Yes the movement did change in 2000. All daytonas produced after 2000 have the in house rolex movement caliber 4130
All daytonas produced before 2000 have the 4030 zenith movement which rolex borrowed and modified from zenith
GT2 Guy
27 March 2008, 10:49 PM
I was wondering the same myself.
countrysquire
8 April 2008, 03:18 AM
What is the difference in the models with the second hand at the six o'clock position and the second hand at the nine o'clock position?
DSJ
8 April 2008, 03:50 AM
What is the difference in the models with the second hand at the six o'clock position and the second hand at the nine o'clock position?
I'm not sure I understand your question countrysquire, but either way, WELCOME TO TRF! Tell us a bit about yourself and what brought you here! :cheers:
countrysquire
8 April 2008, 03:56 AM
Thanks for the reply. I've always wanted the gold daytona and my wife gave it to me last weekend as a wedding present. I'm trying to get some help in confirming that it is authentic because it has the second hand at 9 o'clock, doesn't have the green sticker on the back and is not as heavy as I remember these watches being. It maybe a used one.
Markg
8 April 2008, 04:34 AM
What is the difference in the models with the second hand at the six o'clock position and the second hand at the nine o'clock position?
the current movements have the second hand in the 6 o'clock position, while the prior movement (zenith) had it in the 9 o'clock position.
pics would help.
sngricky
9 April 2008, 01:56 PM
Older watches like the 16523 with the zenith movement has the 2nd hand on the middle left(nine o'clock position while in the newer series like the 116520, its right at the bottom centre(6 o'clock position).
At first I found it strange too as i bought my 16523 after the 116520 and found that the 2nd hands are moving in the wrong place!! :)
Its ok to have a pre-own rolex as long as its a real rolex, its a piece of art! :)
TZL
10 April 2008, 06:00 AM
Aren't Z and newer SS Daytona's heavier than earlier ones? I have tried on a P, F, and own a Z and M, and in my "mind scale" the Z and M feel heavier than the P and F.....
marshallr47
11 April 2008, 03:33 AM
There is at least one difference. Some F-series Daytonas had the socalled "Skinny" hands.
Click this link (http://www.rolexreferencepage.com/articles/6.html) to see what this is about.
You got it Bo.
marshallr47
11 April 2008, 03:35 AM
Aren't Z and newer SS Daytona's heavier than earlier ones? I have tried on a P, F, and own a Z and M, and in my "mind scale" the Z and M feel heavier than the P and F.....
I believe M is the latest. Z series appeared '06-'07. M appeared in late '07-'08.
TZL
11 April 2008, 02:13 PM
I know M is the latest, I have a M SS Daytona and a Z SS Daytona....I was just commenting that the M and Z's feel heavier than earlier daytonas i've tried on
Does anyone know if this is true or just my random observation?
I believe M is the latest. Z series appeared '06-'07. M appeared in late '07-'08.
ashu2289
15 April 2008, 01:31 PM
I know M is the latest, I have a M SS Daytona and a Z SS Daytona....I was just commenting that the M and Z's feel heavier than earlier daytonas i've tried on
Does anyone know if this is true or just my random observation?
Hi Tzl, although you felt the difference it is not so. The Daytonas from the P-serial to till date i.e. M serial are of same weights.:thumbsup:
mking0714
23 April 2008, 06:26 PM
I know M is the latest, I have a M SS Daytona and a Z SS Daytona....I was just commenting that the M and Z's feel heavier than earlier daytonas i've tried on
Does anyone know if this is true or just my random observation?
I believe you are right.....the older Zenith movements had hollow end links compared to the newer ones that have solid end links......I thought I was going crazy too until I had Rolex Beverly Hills confirm this....for a while, I thought I had after market bracelets for my zenith movement Daytonas.....they re-assured me that they were all genuine!. Hope this helps!.
Starwalker
20 January 2009, 03:27 AM
It is my understanding, don't know to what extent this is true, but....on a side note, the daytona's that are Z series and on-wards have the Parachrome Blue hairspring, and the ones before that we're made in house by rolex just have a normal (non-blue parachrome hairspring), not talking about the zenith movts, talking about when rolex first came out with their own mechanisims for the daytona.....they upgraded the parachrome hair spring with teh parachrome blue hair spring Z series on wards, the difference......not tooooo sure....i Guess..magnetics fields and shock resistance......it would be great if someone could please advise, or lol help me get my facts straight....thanks!
ROLEXOFMIAMI
2 March 2009, 02:49 PM
is V the newest ?
ROBERT123
2 March 2009, 03:14 PM
Yes, but some V series still has the old bracelet. If your V series has the new bracelet, then that is the newest of the SS daytona.:cheers:
bewithabob
3 May 2009, 08:36 AM
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=34267
joelc87
15 July 2009, 04:17 PM
Also at some point (I believe late Z series) Rolex introduced the Parachrom Bleu hairspring into the cal. 4130.
PhilK
27 July 2009, 10:03 PM
Hi all.... there is reference above to the different bracelet variances present on a V prefix SS daytona. I've just received a call from my AD saying that my Daytona has finally arrived in stock. :thumbsup: He has confirmed it is a V prefix. When I go there to inspect the watch, what am I looking out for to ensure it is the latest bracelet? Is there anything else I should be looking out for? Many thanks.
jem4
12 September 2009, 02:27 AM
Rather have the old Zenith Movment
mpkRolex
23 February 2010, 06:48 AM
It is my understanding, don't know to what extent this is true, but....on a side note, the daytona's that are Z series and on-wards have the Parachrome Blue hairspring, and the ones before that we're made in house by rolex just have a normal (non-blue parachrome hairspring), not talking about the zenith movts, talking about when rolex first came out with their own mechanisims for the daytona.....they upgraded the parachrome hair spring with teh parachrome blue hair spring Z series on wards, the difference......not tooooo sure....i Guess..magnetics fields and shock resistance......it would be great if someone could please advise, or lol help me get my facts straight....thanks!
Mine is a D serial 116520 and it has the blue parachrome hairspring. I had my AD open and show it to me to confirm. :cheers:
LnL
23 March 2010, 08:14 AM
It was a Vacheron movement, before the Zenith, wasn't it?
Lee
LnL
23 March 2010, 12:51 PM
Oops, that should be Valjoux.
Lee