Best Gray Dealer

[abcde50]

Can someone please give me some advice on whom is the best online gray Rolex dealer???

[TempoKing]

That is a very good question, I also would like to know.

[MrCowboy99]

I have heard two from here. One is alan furman and the other is swissluxury.com. I don't have experience with either (yet).

[CPCC]

I have bought 3 Rollies from Alan Furman. Solid dealer with great prices.

[good2go]

Bought my watches here, including my rollie...it's good to go.

http://www.bernardwatch.com/Rolex

[gtbike72]

Bought my watches here, including my rollie...it's good to go.

http://www.bernardwatch.com/Rolex

I got my tt blue sub from bernard great guys :thumbsup:

[SPACE-DWELLER]

If you want to go preowned, the www.preownedrolex.com site is said to be a good one, too.

[artbypaul]

Another vote for Bernard Watch!
Old World Jewelers is also a very honest dealer with clean stock.


Paul

[Numismatist]

Alan Furman.

[fsouth]

I have extensive dealings with Wingates. Bob Wingate is a very honest stand up guy!

[rpastir]

Cayce at preownedrolex.com is good to deal with. He's got great watches at good prices. I've bought 2 from him.

[Marrk]

I'd be grateful if someone would post a precise definition of the term "grey dealer." Is it a non-AD who gets his supply, not from Rolex, but from ADs? How does buying from a grey dealer affect your post-purchase relationship with Rolex and the RSCs? Will an RSC service a grey dealer watch?

Many thanks.

[evy411nia]

I would recommend my dealer, Gary Loyjack out of Pennsylvania. Honest and straight up, very reliable on shipping, prices are among the best I've seen. He's on E-bay under the name "buckojoe" or you can call him direct at 570-499-1492. Usually has the ability to get you more than he has posted on his e-bay store.

[nch209]

Just dealt with Swiss Luxary and they were great!

[llamaofdoom]

Capetown Diamonds in Roswell ,GA. www.capetownstore.com. Local family business in existence for (I believe) over 30 years. Jonathan and Carl Marcus are good people. I've known them for years, and have bought/sold a fair number of watches with them.

I can recommend them without any reservation.

[highroller]

www.watchmastres.net Stuart is a great person to deal with.Gott my datejust from him:rofl:

[GMTJOHNNY]

I swear by www.demesy.com. I got my YG DD from Joe and could not be happier.
:thumbsup:

[Beemer]

Another vote for Bernard, very honest.

[RolexSoFla]

I would recommend my dealer, Gary Loyjack out of Pennsylvania. Honest and straight up, very reliable on shipping, prices are among the best I've seen. He's on E-bay under the name "buckojoe" or you can call him direct at 570-499-1492. Usually has the ability to get you more than he has posted on his e-bay store.

I agree. Gary (last name spelled Loyack) has been around for years and well regarded here and another popular Rolex web site. :thumbsup:

[pwrslider]

If you want to go preowned, the www.preownedrolex.com site is said to be a good one, too.

X2!....and Cayce will also watch out for your desired model if ya let him know.

[nhdblfan]

Another vote for Demsey bought my 118238 DD a short while ago and very pleased.

[txrob779]

DGSE.com...............Dallas gold and Silver Exchange. Great folks, stand behind these Rolex's, great prices 2 year warranty and in house service for 1/2 the price of Rolex.

[stnmikita]

Bernard Watch was a pleasure to deal with, although you could probably find better prices buying directly from an owner. Although I was unable to buy from Cayce (preownedrolex.com) he was good to deal with.

[gmt master x]

essential watches of bevery hills.
robert maron
watchuwant
and my fav
alan furman

[timetravel125]

Another vote for Bernardwatch.:thumbsup:

[1hoot]

Just a note regarding the dealer buckojoe. I purchased a watch from him several years ago. The watch was genuine but delivered with a defect. He insisted that I send it to rolex for repair before getting "his jeweler" to look at the watch. Resulted in quite a hassle and an experience I would not like to experience again.

[bodybump]

That is a very good question, I also would like to know.

I know one steve...Its Steve Tempo watches....great and funny guy every thing he sells is so reasonable...:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:: clap:

[nads070]

Cayce at preownedrolex.com is good to deal with. He's got great watches at good prices. I've bought 2 from him.

+1 for Cayce...Great guy, awesome prices!:thumbsup:

[DesertDogs]

We have purchased several from Steve at AboutTime.com. Very reliable and you get the original 2-year Rolex warranty. I even have a couple of testimonials posted on the website. :thumbsup:

[Sperry]

There are several I'd trust.

TempoKing has my vote when I'm ready for a white gold DayDate.
Or to refer anyone who wants a fast, very fair deal.

John Luton, who pops up on TZ with fantastic, clean deals, is a contender. But his sell within minutes.

Braunschweiger, in New Jersey, is dropping their AD status.
One would find them very nice with which to deal. Unbelievable when one considers it is still from an AD.

Discounts similar to that of our famed Tempo King, perhaps exceeding slightly, when one includes shipping, etc.
And you get the Rolex two year warranty. But you are limited to their stock.

Bernard Watch returned my emails promptly, and has great information. I'd trust them.

I also bugged the crap out of SwissWrist, and to a lesser extent, SwissLuxury.
I'd buy new from either, and maybe pre-owned as well.

However, I finally decided to buy from a collector who has one too many watches in his pile.
After all the checking I did, I'm comfortable I can sell the watch for what I paid, if my tastes change.
It (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/VerySperryMan/Rolex/Thunderbird009b10.jpg) should be here Tuesday or Wednesday. New pictures will be available in time.

[landroverking]

I have dealt with Wingate and DeMesy both in Texas with out any problems!

[tthopp05]

I heard swissluxyury/alan furman were to be trusted.If I had to pick.I would go with Furman because they are brick/mortar and give a lifetime warrenty.Thet were also voted best watch store in magizine.Good luck
PS-Furman is located in Washington/Swissluxyury is in cal I think.

[VTSKL]

www.swisswatchtrade.com

I got my 16613 from them.
Deal straight as an arrow, thou Thor and Morgan has been in the game for MANY years, so no wonder.

[wantonebad]

Another vote for Tempoking!!

He sells right here off of this website, PM him if there is a particular model you're looking for, also ponycar350 (Jared Allen) from NJ, he sells from the "For Sale" forum on this board as well. Gave me a great deal on my 16613

I never did ask Jared if his name refers to a Mustang GT350? I assume it does...

[2th DR]

I've purchased from Bernard, SwissLuxury, and DeMesy. Very satisfied with all three!

[watchgeek]

I'm a fan of Derek at watchestobuy.com

[watchwatcher]

Yet another vote for Bernard Watches. Good people.

[TimeToGo]

If I may, I recommend TEMPOKING - absolute great prices!

[chenx15]

tempoking, davidsw, lawrenceb, robrobin, alex the collector, bodybump(part time), steve mulholland for vintage and parts, wolfgang, motomc1, springer. all of them TRF members

[tomee]

do these gray dealers ship to Australia?

[onkyo]

tempoking, davidsw, lawrenceb, robrobin, alex the collector, bodybump(part time), steve mulholland for vintage and parts, wolfgang, motomc1, springer. all of them TRF members


Agree with above. :thumbsup:

I have bought from 1/2 of them.

No one mentioned Jomashop.com. I have had 3 good experiences with them. The are located in NYC so I get hit with tax. :thumbsdow

:cheers:

[bmackinlay]

I would not buy again from buckjo, I purchased a BNIB 18K Yachtmaster from Gary,when I received it I just didn't like it, I had it, trying to make up my mind,and called Gary about trading it for a 18K GMT II. He said I had it over the return time limit ,(one Day over) and he would take it back but I would loose $3000.00 !! As far as I'm concerned He did not treat me right,I then found a Grey Dealer in South Florida who made the trade. I still lost over $1000.00. Bill

[iSellJerseyShore]

No one mentioned Jomashop.com. I have had 3 good experiences with them. The are located in NYC so I get hit with tax. :thumbsdow

:cheers:

I like the look and feel of their website, seem to be rather reputable. However their Merchant Reviews (http://shopping.yahoo.com/merchrating/user_rv.html;_ylt=AkxrNOMPdLdhbNEyHlntfMscEb0F?mer chant_id=1012347&sort_method=lowestrated&from=11) are all over the map.

I have never delt with them so I can't comment on them other then what I read.

-Frankie

[jnkay]

I can verify that after several transactions, Jomashop was reputable and no-hassle when it comes to lower end watches. Haven't purchased Rolex from them.

Alan Furman is top-notch, and they have the best warranty.

I did have an issue with DeMessey, however. He has a hefty restocking fee for returns. He charged me a huge restocking fee just for cancelling an order the day after I made it, even though he hadn't shipped the watch yet! I don't think that's the way to conduct a business.

[onkyo]

I like the look and feel of their website, seem to be rather reputable. However their Merchant Reviews (http://shopping.yahoo.com/merchrating/user_rv.html;_ylt=AkxrNOMPdLdhbNEyHlntfMscEb0F?mer chant_id=1012347&sort_method=lowestrated&from=11) are all over the map.

I have never delt with them so I can't comment on them other then what I read.

-Frankie


One reason for some of the bad reviews is on their website it may show a watch being in stock when they really don't have it. Then you get an email canceling your order and a $10 off coupon. That really sucks and feels impersonal. Happened to me once.

In the past I have ordered two ladies Rolex watches and one Tag. Also, like many grey dealers they don't want to give out factory warranty card but I specifically ask for it and they give it to me.

:cheers:

[Numismatist]

:cheers:I have not purchased from TempoKing; however, based on wit, sagacity, humor, and a fine selection of watches - that'd be where I go!:cheers:

[rkrdr]

After much looking, I chose to do business with Alan Furman for my first new Rolex.

[bewithabob]

Bought my watches here, including my rollie...it's good to go.

http://www.bernardwatch.com/Rolex


I have also purchased from Bernard. Fair price, friendly, honest.

[bewithabob]

tempoking, davidsw, lawrenceb, robrobin, alex the collector, bodybump(part time), steve mulholland for vintage and parts, wolfgang, motomc1, springer. all of them TRF members

lawrenceb is a good guy

[Hankotex]

I would recommend my dealer, Gary Loyjack out of Pennsylvania. Honest and straight up, very reliable on shipping, prices are among the best I've seen. He's on E-bay under the name "buckojoe" or you can call him direct at 570-499-1492. Usually has the ability to get you more than he has posted on his e-bay store.

I just received my new Z S/N DateJust from Gary. It's beautiful and a terrific deal. Try him out and you won't be disappointed.

[bustillowinston]

here in the forum u can get good deals from anastacio tempo king.thats what i've read. for online sellers allan furman or swiss luxury. bernard watches ok too. But stay away from swisswrist.com. never buy from them.Their watches are defective and not mint. my 2 cousins had a very bad experience with them. that's why their prices are low coz theyr watches are refurbished.its genuine but not 100%. my other cousin bought a sub blue tt unused. the bezel was a fake one. my other cousin bought an unused datejust and when we had it expected with the dealer they found out that the crystal sapphire was a replacement, not rolex original. their watches are just 80%genuine and are refurbished thats why they are lower...

[rkot07]

For Southern California Residents: Watch Expo in Newport Beach. Also they have a ebay site watchesgonewild they have 100% feedback. I have done business with them Paul (the owner) and Stan are stand up guys...
:smokin:

[diablojota]

here in the forum u can get good deals from anastacio tempo king.thats what i've read. for online sellers allan furman or swiss luxury. bernard watches ok too. But stay away from swisswrist.com. never buy from them.Their watches are defective and not mint. my 2 cousins had a very bad experience with them. that's why their prices are low coz theyr watches are refurbished.its genuine but not 100%. my other cousin bought a sub blue tt unused. the bezel was a fake one. my other cousin bought an unused datejust and when we had it expected with the dealer they found out that the crystal sapphire was a replacement, not rolex original. their watches are just 80%genuine and are refurbished thats why they are lower...

Wait? :thinking: I could have sworn I've heard these stories before about the swisswrist problems. In fact these exact same issues were brought up in the swisswrist thread, weren't they? Hmmm....

[GMTJOHNNY]

I have to throw support to Nigel at http://www.highlinetime.comas my experience with them was PERFECT! My GMTIIC in YG/SS was purchased NEW from them and arrived as described. The emails assuring me and giving updates with tracking and so forth were just great. An A+++ experience with them.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Edward Arthur]

I like the look and feel of their website, seem to be rather reputable. However their Merchant Reviews (http://shopping.yahoo.com/merchrating/user_rv.html;_ylt=AkxrNOMPdLdhbNEyHlntfMscEb0F?mer chant_id=1012347&sort_method=lowestrated&from=11) are all over the map.

I have never delt with them so I can't comment on them other then what I read.

-Frankie

NYS Sales Tax is a big bite. Do they charge tax if it's shipped to NJ? I keep an out of state address (nearby) at a UPS Store for shipping w/no tax for in-state purchases. It's about a 30 mile ride to pick it up and the box costs are only a fraction of the tax on a new Sub.

[MrPCG514]

Gary Loyack on Ebay aka Buckojoe..is fantastic, well versed in Rolex Jive and the very Best/Honest Watch broker ever. I just bought my first Rolex from him, a New GMT II 18k & SS V series, Super Cool Dude to talk to, Backs his watches with a 2 year warranty..Trust this guy when you go for your next watch!!!

[Nick1959]

buying new I discovered that I get equally good prices form the guys here on TRF who gives you proper warranty and papers. so why bother with Grey.
Since asking for Greay I also have heard good things abouy buckjoe. I once called him and he said he can even arrange a show of the pieces at a local jeweller

[RolexDaytonaDreamer]

Hi

I m going to be a first time buyer of a Rolex. I am in NYC and have been on the internet night and day for a couple of days now. I have chosen the Daytona 11620 white for my first watch. I wanted to buy it from an AD, however reading the posts, it seems buying it from a "gray" dealer doesn't seem to be a bad idea and somehow anastasios keeps coming up in the forum. I tried to look him up online but he is not there.

I would like to know
1. How can i get in touch with TempoKing
2. what is the difference in buying from an AD and Grey dealer (besides the price)
3. Any other info woudl be helpful

Daytona dreamer

[Kemper Boyd]

Hi

I m going to be a first time buyer of a Rolex. I am in NYC and have been on the internet night and day for a couple of days now. I have chosen the Daytona 11620 white for my first watch. I wanted to buy it from an AD, however reading the posts, it seems buying it from a "gray" dealer doesn't seem to be a bad idea and somehow anastasios keeps coming up in the forum. I tried to look him up online but he is not there.

I would like to know
1. How can i get in touch with TempoKing
2. what is the difference in buying from an AD and Grey dealer (besides the price)
3. Any other info woudl be helpful

Daytona dreamer


I would also try DavidSW as well...

[grhill5]

Add another vote for Bernard. Bought my V series Daytona from them at a great price. Would buy again.

[ideal_symc]

seems Bernard does not provider manufacture warranty card. whether it is one of the difference btw grey dealer and AD ?

[armoredsaint]

seems Bernard does not provider manufacture warranty card. whether it is one of the difference btw grey dealer and AD ?

i think it is, when the gray dealers remove the real warranty card and replace it with their own generic card.

[donas]

I purchased a Tag & Omega from Jomashop back in '05 with absolutely no problems and had reasonable shipping time. Just bought off TRF from Sale2day " boris " with no problems.

[MikeyTX]

Not sure why but no one has mentioned MOSCO (Greg) He is one of our best other than AD peeps on this forum. He is located near the Queen City. And, watches are his full time gig. He worked very hard with me to get hold of an nib 16610LV only to have the holder of the coin nix things at the last moment. :crying: Check out his web site @ CaliberSwiss or check out his eBay site. Especially the about me part !

[hng]

good to know there are lots of other sellers other than TRF...

[kjb]

Tempo King and David SW are very good Grey market dealers. Very trustworthy .

[mtrunner]

Hi

I m going to be a first time buyer of a Rolex. I am in NYC and have been on the internet night and day for a couple of days now. I have chosen the Daytona 11620 white for my first watch. I wanted to buy it from an AD, however reading the posts, it seems buying it from a "gray" dealer doesn't seem to be a bad idea and somehow anastasios keeps coming up in the forum. I tried to look him up online but he is not there.

I would like to know
1. How can i get in touch with TempoKing
2. what is the difference in buying from an AD and Grey dealer (besides the price)
3. Any other info woudl be helpful

Daytona dreamer


Like you I live in NYC and I finally made the decision to buy my first Rolex and also my wife's first Rolex. I looked at the ADs here in NYC and to be honest I did not like dealing with them. I found this site and several people recommended DavidSW. I contacted him here via Private Message and he called me back within 15 minutes.

I ended up buying my watches from him last Thursday and I have my watches via FedEx on Friday. He gave me an incredible price on both watches and no sales tax! Both watches came from an AD with all tags, warranty, and both watches were still in plastic. I highly recommend contacting David.

[sakolander]

I puirchased a Breitling from Alan Furman....excellent brand new watch with all the papers and plastic covering....very easy to deal with..great price, no tax and small shipping charge!!!

I'm sure the Rolex's are also brand new that they get from other AD's aroung the world!!

[Hankotex]

Thanks for the great info on gray dealers.

[mdb322]

lawrenceb is a good guy

Is that a Welsh Terrier in your signature?

[Numismatist]

Is that a Welsh Terrier in your signature?

This is a two year old thread...

btw, I like OSCAR - Bodybump - he's 'da bomb!