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Baptistman

8 July 2008, 04:03 AM

Well guys, thought I would put finger to keyboard, and type a review of my one and only, plus current watch, The Submariner ref: 14060M COSC.

My watch was purchased brand new from a Rolex AD and is a Z serial. It features the now COSC rated 3130 movement, and the Rolex Rolex Rolex engraved on the rehaut plus the serial number is also engraved at the 6 o'clock position again on the rehaut.

The watch feature the LEC (Rolex coronet lazer engraved) on the crystal at the 6 o'clock position.

Dealing first with the case. It features lug holes, the only current production Rolex with this "orginal feature" intact. Make it very easy to swap bracelets and gives it a nice retro look. The case edges are given the Rolex polishing treatment and looks like white gold imo. When the light catches the metal, the effect is extraordinary. Moving to the bezel, it features the "coin edge" finish with polished facets, again the way Rolex cuts the bezel edge is fantastic, as it seems to catch the light in an amazing way, making the watch look like a jewel.

The Dial, is one of the main features of this watch. The enamelled black finish looks almost liquid in finish and is so clean looking with the lack of cyclops and date complication. The extra COSC writing imo does not detract from the dial in any shape or form, as some people might suggest. Mine has well printed lettering and is very clean and white. I have seen variations in dial printing, some dials appear a little finer in depth of printing making it appear a little fainter. It is worth comparing dial finishes.

Now to the bracelet, it features a pressed steel clasp and divers extension link. It has hollow centre links and Non SEL at the lug end.
Much has been said about the quality of the bracelet, and by todays standards and price I might agree, but for the followings points

1) The watch imo is a homage to the original Subs and the famous 5513. I think Rolex have attempted to keep a vintage style homage watch in the range with some subtle and minor changes. The braclelet fits well with this vintage appeal.
2) Apart from anything else, this bracelet has been tested in the field for many many years, and quite simply WORKS. Simple as that.
3) After wearing SEL bracelets, what I can say from experience is that the NON SEL has a better profile on the wrist and is very very comfortable to wear. My apprehension towards NON SEL is now a thing of the past.

The watch came with the following bits and bobs.

1) Outer white sleeve
2) Inner box in a light green
3) The actual green Rolex watch box made out of some sort of plastic
4) The watch (Thank goodness)
5) A plastic bezel protector
6) Two swing tags, the Red chronometer seal and green swimpruf inventory tag
7) A green wallet
8) Three booklets, Your Rolex Oyster, a general Submariner bookelet, and a warranty/chronmeter translation booklet.
9) A credit card style warranty card

So to finish, this watch represents imo, Rolex heritage and has in some way faithfully remained, why did Rolex only include minimal changes to this watch, in a world full of changes, maybe Patrick H, looked at smiled, and said, Why mess with tradition and timeless beauty. A classic now and the future

walds11

8 July 2008, 04:33 AM

Jon, nice comprehensive review. I am still thinking about pulling the trigger on one.

alphamale2012

7 February 2009, 05:14 AM

great review

grex

13 February 2009, 07:16 PM

Gorgeous with simplicity..... love to get that but struggle with date function.... cyclops or no cyclops...:twit:

Subexplorer

14 February 2009, 12:32 AM

Jon: Great review about a great watch. A true classic, which inherits all the true merits and plain looks of the Submariner saga of watches of the past.

I just bought one yesterday. I would prefer the non COSC units no longer made, but unavailable here in my Country (brand new I mean).

Anyway, I like this non date very much, and I´m wearing it today.

Thanks for this review!
Regards, Abel

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8233/dscn8486iz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ayeya

14 February 2009, 02:12 AM

thank you for the great review

W124

16 February 2009, 07:59 AM

checkin

16 February 2009, 01:00 PM

I like 14060M.

DSJ

16 February 2009, 01:10 PM

Nice!

ejsab72

16 February 2009, 01:50 PM

grex,

unless you're strapped for cash, get the date function. My friend bought without and everyone kept giving him a hard time for being so cheap and not getting with the date. The $800 extra is well worth it. It completes the watches look.

AIKO

16 February 2009, 02:27 PM

elgatonegro

16 February 2009, 03:59 PM

Nice review. Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup:

apollo

17 February 2009, 03:52 PM

I have noticed that the new watches have something like a stamp on the side of the case like you see on picture # 4. What exactly is it?

nwappraisals

21 February 2009, 02:38 AM

Of all the models I've considered, I keep coming back to this one

Subexplorer

21 February 2009, 10:17 AM

I have noticed that the new watches have something like a stamp on the side of the case like you see on picture # 4. What exactly is it?

Hi Apollo: I guess you refer to the little black print stamped over the clear plastic protective cover which comes with brand new Rolex watches.
It goes out when owner discards those protections f the highly polisheed back and front of case.
Looks like a tiny bar code print.
May be some fellow member can throw more light upon the exact use of this print.
Kind regards, Abel

Fai17

27 February 2009, 01:01 AM

Very very nice and i think the sub are classics

Subexplorer

27 February 2009, 05:42 AM

Hi Guys I just joined the Forum today.Not sure why it took me so long to find it.I too just bought a 14060M. "M " serial number.My question.How many links is it supposed to come with?I count 12 before it attaches to the clasps.Do you count the pieces attached to the case as links ?
Thank you
Mike

Hi Mike!:
My brand new 14060m came with 5 links at "6" and 7 links at "12", plus the divers extension piece. That´s the standard factory config.
Hope this helps.
Enjoy your great watch! A classic!
Regards, Abel

Subexplorer

27 February 2009, 05:47 AM

Hi Mike!:
My brand new 14060m came with 5 links at "6" and 7 links at "12", plus the divers extension piece. That´s the standard factory config.
Hope this helps.
Enjoy your great watch! A classic!
Regards, Abel

PD:
Sorry, didn´t read well your question:
The pieces attached between the case lugs, are called "end links", but I didn´t count them as part of the bracelet in my previous answer, as I considered them as a "cosmetic" part to cover the attachment of the bracelet.
Of course these are two additional pieces, one between each pair of lugs.
Hope this answers your question.
Regards, Abel

Lion

27 February 2009, 12:13 PM

Good review on the Sub 14060M, it's a great watch with a storied history. It's definitely a watch to add to your arsenal!!!

hflee55

9 March 2009, 12:18 PM

great review!

jimmjames

13 March 2009, 04:33 AM

Thanks for the review - this is the watch I want - I do not have a rolex yet - and it is killing me to look at those pics.

chriseskew24

13 March 2009, 04:35 AM

A true classic. I love the clean look without the date. But i also love the date. Heck i love them all.

The Mantis

14 March 2009, 08:45 PM

Just picked mine up yesterday and I can't stop looking at it...perfect meld of modern and vintage!

NYC6

20 March 2009, 02:17 AM

I picked up my new Sub ND serial # Z77xxxx COSC three days ago. Its a work of art and I love it. After reading the OP I understand that his watch has the laser engraving of the crown on the lens. I looked at mine carefully with a magnifing glass and there is no lasered crown. Is this known to anyone?

snow_rocks

22 March 2009, 10:43 PM

Good post! Answer my question about holes in the case, and non SELs on the new 14060M. Thanks

ex001

31 March 2009, 06:54 PM

Is it true that the indices and the hands are white gold?

3266

1 April 2009, 05:16 AM

The Indices and Hands are Pure White Gold – Made ‘In House’ so Rolex can monitor the purity of the Gold – This watch is the blitz, and the Ultimate ‘Real Mans’ Wristwatch! :comeandge Also if Bond continued indorsing Rolex today, you can bet your life the 14060M would be he's watch of choice!!! :clap:

hikart

2 April 2009, 01:11 AM

Great review.

I hope that the next upgrade for this model would be SEL.

Perdu

2 April 2009, 09:48 AM

Very nice well thought out review, Jon. Thanks.

9166

3 April 2009, 04:04 AM

Fully agree. i wore mine for 5 months and was constantly bothered with the no-date thing. Finally ended buying another SD.

grex,

unless you're strapped for cash, get the date function. My friend bought without and everyone kept giving him a hard time for being so cheap and not getting with the date. The $800 extra is well worth it. It completes the watches look.

holmes

24 April 2009, 08:58 AM

The author's great review on his 14060M COSC covered a lot of territory. But a couple of responses caught my attention as miss leading or just wrong. First to set the record straight, all will have the cornet laser engraved right in the area of the '6'. I used my loupe and had to angle the watch rather than straight on. You'll find it. Next, no cyclops date bubble makes the watch look cheap????
Why? Can you offer any particular reasons for that observation. At one time I had 10 Rolexes, primarily vintage. Keeping them serviced was a pain under Rolex USA old service police. I tried on a Daytona while in Munich at an AD and I was surprised at how 'cheap' it felt. Nothing solid. I had a ref 5512 and a 5513. The 5512 has a date feature. It was made for around 10 years. The 5513 w/o a date finally ground to a halt after a roughly 40 odd year run. Demand vs supply. On personal note. In this information age, if I can't find out the day, date, time, moonrise, sunrise, my dementia must be farther along than I realized.

zidaneong

4 May 2009, 12:29 AM

grear review, gives me the urge to get one myself.... but no money. lol

Kirby

4 May 2009, 04:59 AM

Thanks for the review. Interesting to see the spacing of the dial's wording on your watch (and the other picture in this thread). The line on my 14060M reads "1000ft=300m", while the other two pictures in this thread read "1000ft = 300m". I remember that this was discussed previously. Anyone else have any insight?

munsonmj20

6 May 2009, 11:34 AM

great review.

camfam

8 May 2009, 02:01 PM

exxondus

13 May 2009, 09:55 PM

sub-mariner

15 May 2009, 12:02 AM

Nice review and pictures. I just bought the same watch last week. Been wearing it everyday, it really is a fantastic watch. Very comfortable and lightweight at 4.5 oz. I'm used to wearing heavier Omega's and Breitlings, so this is a revelation. I now have the discontinued SeaDweller on layaway at my local AD. It looks so identical to the non date submariner, wish now I had bought the green sub or the date model just so their different but I like the non date look so much I'm going to be happy with both. I wouldn't have put the seadweller on layaway if it wasn't at such a bargain price because it's no longer made.
It's interesting how a watch that is going to be hard to find and disappearing off dealers shelves end up being discounted so heavily, makes them more affortable for me.
At 5.4 oz the seadweller will be a little heavier, but the same weight as a speedmaster pro moonwatch, and slightly heavier than the bond seamaster (5.2oz).
For me, I find that once a watch gets to weigh over 6 oz it becomes tedious to wear all day. The seadweller deepsea at 7.8 oz or 1/2 pound! is a monster in weight.

I like that my submariner no date looks so similar to the original Bond early sixties watch, it's a classic. Also, my wife, who doesn't usually notice the differences in my watches thought that this watch was gorgeous because of the scalloped edge sparkle on the bezel and liquid black dial and no date bubble.

jmn4667

14 June 2009, 05:24 AM

I just picked one up last week while in Phoenix. I love it!

els4

19 June 2009, 06:38 AM

I love that watch. The only watch I currently own is a SS Sub-date I purchased new in 1997. I love the Sub-date, but IMO the ND looks "cleaner". What a classic. If I had it to do over, I would quite possibly get the ND.

nektarios

14 July 2009, 10:40 AM

We do not buy no date because we cannot buy the other! We just do not need/use the date!!The simplest, the best to me.

nektarios

14 July 2009, 01:17 PM

great!!

Perdu

15 July 2009, 05:52 AM

Great review, Jon and a very nice watch. Personally I like the drilled lug holes and stamped bracelet.

sleddog

16 July 2009, 03:06 PM

We do not buy no date because we cannot buy the other! We just do not need/use the date!!The simplest, the best to me.

I have to agree with the above post....Its not about cost/date/no date!! Its all about style and preference to the wearer.... I've had both date and non date subs,but to me the no date is the cleanest(thats just me),we are all different...I even had a Sea-Dweller(now sold and im kicking myself for doing it:banghead:) for the simple reason it had no cyclops!! Again,cleaner looking...
Now I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the cyclops(it's a rolex icon)...Some of us just like the simplicity!! I love the magnified date on my GMTIIC TT...Just not on my sub....
Sorry for the rant people,just had to let that out:lol:.....Now I better go to bed!..:bye::bye::thumbsup:

mikkolopez

3 July 2011, 01:02 AM

i have to agree i also like the clean look of my 14060M, that's just me

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss273/mikkolopez/My%20Watches/RolexSubBlue1.jpg

Power Play

19 July 2011, 12:39 PM

IMHO, the 14060 is still one of the very best Rolexes of all time.

I've been thru several Sub-dates and still wear the SD 4000 and DSSD but now the wife has gotten hold of the 14060 non-CSOC, adjusted the bracelet, and wears it proudly.

Other watches will come and go but the 14060 will live on forever. Thx for the great review and all of the great comments!

:dude:

sea-dweller

16 August 2011, 02:01 PM

Nice review!

SWIMPRUF

17 August 2011, 11:04 PM

Nice review.

Gerardus

3 September 2011, 02:07 AM

Thanxs for the review, I red it with pleasure (wearing my "no date")

Jfbhd4

7 September 2011, 05:48 AM

Great review!

ag62000

10 September 2011, 03:45 PM

Excellent review

Coldcuts113

11 September 2011, 11:33 PM

A true classic. I love the clean look without the date. But i also love the date. Heck i love them all.

My thoughts exactly... I have the non COSC (06') and I love it. The history behind it, etc..

I get a kick out of showing my wife pics of Sub ND's here on TRF from it's inception to current and she says "why are you showing me the same watch?, it looks like the black Rolex..."

Great Review!