16610LV Green bezels: 2 different colours.

[billio7]

I recently bought myself a 16610LV (Green bezel submariner). I absolutely love the watch, but when I returned to the store to decide which watch I would like next (ie in about 20 years) i noticed something peculiar with another 16610LV in the store's stock.

The bezel was a completely different shade of green. Mine is a yellow-green, while the stock item was a much deeper green. The difference was obvious even before I placed the two side by side.

I have since seen one other watch with my colored bezel, and many with the deeper green. Has anyone else noticed this?

[directioneng]

The Anniversary year bezel was a different green and IMO there might also be other greens out there.
Here's my 'green' :thumbsup:
Note hour, minute and second hands clear of text for all WIS.:chuckle::chuckle:

[kudosguy]

Mine is a deeper green, however, I have seen some with lighter green bezels. I think the first LV's had a deep green bezel, however I think Rolex experimented with the colour, hence the lighter green; the M serials seem to be a lot darker than the Z.

[stevenshin]

Great info, thanks. I am casually looking for one and didn't realize the shades are different!

[mfer]

Never knew that. TRF teaches me again!

[valentine]

I have a D series LV...and it has the older yellow-green look to it....and it is true that the newer models have a much "richer" green....less yellow...more turqoise added....I blend colors for a living...so I can see where Rolex was trying to go with this....also...does anyone know why Rolex chose "green" for their anniversary models??? I am under the impression that this is Rolex's flagship color....hence the color changes...perhaps to be nearer to the "rolex green?" just a thought....

[pricojorge]

i used to have the darker shade of green, looked really good, i dont like the light shade of green doesnt look too right to me

[stevenshin]

Anyone have a bunch of pictures that might show some of the differences?

[VDENTALS]

whats the differens of the Rolex Submariner 16610LV and 16610V

[Singslinger]

I recently bought myself a 16610LV (Green bezel submariner). I absolutely love the watch, but when I returned to the store to decide which watch I would like next (ie in about 20 years) i noticed something peculiar with another 16610LV in the store's stock.

The bezel was a completely different shade of green. Mine is a yellow-green, while the stock item was a much deeper green. The difference was obvious even before I placed the two side by side.

I have since seen one other watch with my colored bezel, and many with the deeper green. Has anyone else noticed this?

Yes, you're correct. I own an M-series LV bought 2 weeks ago and placed it side-by-side with one bought by a friend in 2004 (not sure of what series it is) and you can see clearly that the current model has a darker bezel.

[Spare201]

Mine is a deeper green, however, I have seen some with lighter green bezels. I think the first LV's had a deep green bezel, however I think Rolex experimented with the colour, hence the lighter green; the M serials seem to be a lot darker than the Z.

Yes and no. The first run of bezels for the anniversay year were slightly different. Rolex bought all of their suppliers and moved them in house, after the first run of LVs were complete. They decided to keep the LV as a regular run watch and they made the bezel a slightly different shade to differenciate them.

[peter@bmfurniture.co]

In answer to why green for the bezel on the LV I beleive it is the next best colour after black when used as a sub should be underwater. Something to do with light and wave length while underwater. In regard to the LV being limited in one sense yes it is Rolex produce fewer LV Subs than normal Subs so in this sense it is limited. as with all Rolex there will be people who will pay more to be different (why is a Comex seadweller worth so much ?) it only has comex on the dial! the difference in dial colour may be more important in the future as the new Sub is made available in SS in around two years the LV will become more of a rare beast than the normal Sub the differences are small maxi dial bigger fingers green bezel but how many of you out there know about the five min dial (where the swiss made touches the two min indicators both after and before the 30mins indicator at six oclock) Only the LV has this. it may be a very small difference but who would have thought a red Sub would be worth so much when buying one all those years ago. I am a person who thinks you should wish to wear a rolex for reasons other than future gain enjoy them and when you look at the dial to see what time it is wonder how much Mr Wilsdorf is laughing at us all thinking about how much we are all paying for a Rolex now.

[Spare201]

You did make some valid points. The Comex seadweller is unusual because like the Tiffany and Company sub it is an oddity because normally Rolex doesn't allow their watches to be "branded". Like I said though a "limited edition" is when you know the total produced and what number in that production run your watch is.

The above aren't true limited edition watches... they are noted as a rarity in the business. However, no accurate figures exist on total production. Rolex doesn't want a figure released on any of their watches because it could create a much stronger gray market.

[DCG]

I have wanted to get a Sub LV from the beginning when it was first released. I finally got an M series. I did notice when the colors changed. (I visited the ADs many times before I bought one). I believe the colors evolved in this order:

Early release to latest:

2003 F series was a pure green with almost metallic look in the paint.

2005 D series was the light green, almost a lime green. (I did not like this as it already looked somewhat faded in the stores) This blended into the 2006 Z series some what.

2007-08 M series has the deepest green yet with a non metallic look in the paint.

[gaz122]

I have the M series and i like this richer in green rather than the yellowish green.

[adr]

I have wanted to get a Sub LV from the beginning when it was first released. I finally got an M series. I did notice when the colors changed. (I visited the ADs many times before I bought one). I believe the colors evolved in this order:

Early release to latest:

2003 F series was a pure green with almost metallic look in the paint.

2005 D series was the light green, almost a lime green. (I did not like this as it already looked somewhat faded in the stores) This blended into the 2006 Z series some what.

2007-08 M series has the deepest green yet with a non metallic look in the paint.



wow, good info . TQ guys. ... & DCG you rock. :clap::clap:

im considering a Sub LV in search for the short production unusual series. :smokin:

anyone seen the V series ? :lol:

[harvey]

in contrast to some of the post above... i thought the earlier lvs had the darker, more richer colour...

heres my d series bought in 2005, the pic was taken about six months ago...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn220/harveyphotobucket/rolex1/IMG_0770.jpg

[cikez5252]

Wow that is nice! I really like the green.

[hba]

this is most clear at the number five ...

Best, Herman

[The Mole]

The bezels are always greener on the other side of the case...

Sorry I couldn't resist. :cheers:

[DCG]

in contrast to some of the post above... i thought the earlier lvs had the darker, more richer colour...

heres my d series bought in 2005, the pic was taken about six months ago...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn220/harveyphotobucket/rolex1/IMG_0770.jpg

Harvey has brought up a point. I should have put a better description for the D series. I am going off what I remember in stores. Problem is every store has different lighting and second I have a photo of my M in the same exact position as Harvey but it looks the same or slightly darker. It comes down to the lighting when viewing the watch.

To the best of my knowledge again,

Early release to latest:

2003 F series was a pure green (deep or rich) with a slight metallic look in the paint.

2005 D series also a deep green similar to the F

2006 Z series has some what a light green, almost a lime green look.

2007-08 M series has yet again a deep medium green with a non metallic look in the paint.

[Lol-x]

My LV is a "Y" serial and so I would put it as being one of the first ever made.

My opinion is that it has a lighter green bezel than later versions I have seen :cheers:

http://smoothride.com.au/uploadedFiles/1155599720463-0101.jpg

Strange isn't it looking at this photo you could almost call the colour of the bezel anything from metallic green to almost black :banghead: :cheers:

[TheDude]

I thought I posted this suggestion last night, but I don't see it here now...


For the digitally and photographically inclined:

-shoot the watch next to a gray card
-post or link to the actual RAW files


That way, one of us (or any of us) can grab them all and process them identically to get a true idea of the variation. All of the various member images could be compiled into a single reference comparison image for members to use as a resource.

[Dr S]

My LV is a "Y" serial and so I would put it as being one of the first ever made.

My opinion is that it has a lighter green bezel than later versions I have seen :cheers:

http://smoothride.com.au/uploadedFiles/1155599720463-0101.jpg

Strange isn't it looking at this photo you could almost call the colour of the bezel anything from metallic green to almost black :banghead: :cheers:

Does yours have Lug holes in the side of the case?

Y series is the 2003 production and could be said to be the only true 50th Anniversary 16610lv watch. I sold mine shortly after purchase as I could resist the huge offer - have 3 of them now - F D and Z

[Dr S]

In answer to why green for the bezel on the LV I beleive it is the next best colour after black when used as a sub should be underwater. Something to do with light and wave length while underwater. In regard to the LV being limited in one sense yes it is Rolex produce fewer LV Subs than normal Subs so in this sense it is limited. as with all Rolex there will be people who will pay more to be different (why is a Comex seadweller worth so much ?) it only has comex on the dial! the difference in dial colour may be more important in the future as the new Sub is made available in SS in around two years the LV will become more of a rare beast than the normal Sub the differences are small maxi dial bigger fingers green bezel but how many of you out there know about the five min dial (where the swiss made touches the two min indicators both after and before the 30mins indicator at six oclock) Only the LV has this. it may be a very small difference but who would have thought a red Sub would be worth so much when buying one all those years ago. I am a person who thinks you should wish to wear a rolex for reasons other than future gain enjoy them and when you look at the dial to see what time it is wonder how much Mr Wilsdorf is laughing at us all thinking about how much we are all paying for a Rolex now.


No it's green because that is Rolex colour - boxes - second hand dial - bezel - crystal - I see a pattern - nothing to do with diving - if anything the light spectrum would suggest green and lighter blues shoukld be avoided under water. Omega looked at all cvolours and came up with...

yes you guessed it - Orange!

[uscmex]

This is all very interesting guys! Mine is an F Series and looks darker.

[josem]

Hi.
Some one knows wat type of packing had the first serie of 50th annyversari series?
It's the actual one or is the wood packing case.?

Thanks

[josem]

Hi.
Some one knows wat type of packing had the first serie of 50th annyversari series?
It's the actual one or is the wood packing case.?

Thanks

Someone knows that? Thank you.

[normandy]

I also noticed the color difference on 16710, The Pepsi and Coke insert have darker/richer red, almost like maroon and metallic (Look nice), while the other have lighter shade of red.

[The_Diver]

Hey guys!

Sooo now I'm lost as to what year/version I have...I never really paid attention until now.

Can anyone help me with this?

This photo is photoshopped so maybe the colors won't be able to help ( I don't know if there's anything else that could thought )
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr197/JGbatman/LV-1.jpg


This one I just took
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr197/JGbatman/lv2.jpg

I've had this for a few years so I can safely rule out that it's not a newer model.

[Sheikh]

Hi all,
let me get this right, the first LV release had lugs as they do and is the only true ltd edition and has serial begining with Y.

[kzm40]

My LV is a "Y" serial and so I would put it as being one of the first ever made.

My opinion is that it has a lighter green bezel than later versions I have seen :cheers:

http://smoothride.com.au/uploadedFiles/1155599720463-0101.jpg

Strange isn't it looking at this photo you could almost call the colour of the bezel anything from metallic green to almost black :banghead: :cheers:

Yes the first '2003' one's have the oval 'O' in Rolex to, very noticable on this photo..

[kzm40]

Hi all,
let me get this right, the first LV release had lugs as they do and is the only true ltd edition and has serial begining with Y.

No LV's had Lug holes, there was a press release that showed one with Lug holes.. alledgely to wrong foot the forgers...

[kzm40]

I recently bought myself a 16610LV (Green bezel submariner). I absolutely love the watch, but when I returned to the store to decide which watch I would like next (ie in about 20 years) i noticed something peculiar with another 16610LV in the store's stock.

The bezel was a completely different shade of green. Mine is a yellow-green, while the stock item was a much deeper green. The difference was obvious even before I placed the two side by side.

I have since seen one other watch with my colored bezel, and many with the deeper green. Has anyone else noticed this?

Its obviously a very difficult colour to get totally consistant.. If you see a row of Blue TT subs, you'll also notice a hugh colour variation.

[california]

I saw this same watch at ben bridge and it has a dark green. It could be the newer model since it has rolexrolex engraved on the inner bezel.

[Edward Arthur]

I have owned two M Series LV's since March 2009. One was a darker green and appeared to be more of an avacado green shade in comparison to the other M Series, which was a rich emerald shade of green. I not sure why the difference. I noticed another in a AD's window and it was the darker, more avacado shade of green.

[DVR]

Hi.
Some one knows wat type of packing had the first serie of 50th annyversari series?
It's the actual one or is the wood packing case.?

Thanks

You asked months ago but anyways , old style box of wood.

[CharlieG]

Here's my Z series

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6587/dsc0019v.jpg

[rollie]

Here is my V serial

[sexner]

I saw this same watch at ben bridge and it has a dark green. It could be the newer model since it has rolexrolex engraved on the inner bezel.

Rehaut.

[Edward Arthur]

I have owned two M Series LV's since March 2009. One was a darker green and appeared to be more of an avacado green shade in comparison to the other M Series, which was a rich emerald shade of green. I not sure why the difference. I noticed another in a AD's window and it was the darker, more avacado shade of green.

As I previously posted above, I have different shades of green on two "M" serial LV's. Well, the brighter more "emerald" green one went to RSC for routine service and came back with new green bezel, the one that RSC put in is now the deeper shade of green. I actually liked the brighter green better. Go figure!!

The moral to the story, if you like the shade of green and there is nothing wrong with your bezel insert, make sure to tell RSC not to change it!!

[luminor76]

My 16610lv



http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2556/p7200020mii.jpg

[Lol-x]

I like that darker shade of green, but I have the lighter shade.

Kind of annoying to have to keep the colour to keep the watch original. Anyway, maybe one day I'll get up the motivation to go to the black insert :cheers:

[ttomczak]

Here is my "M" series I just purchased, I looked for a "V", but even ones received in July by Finks were "M"s

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eticket/My%20Rolexs/S6300899.jpg

[cenvil2001]

I have a Z series that I bought in September 2007 (sorry it took me some time to buy it but I was saving up for it ) and I can't spot the difference. If you ask me mine has a dark green bezel but I havent really seen the lighter shades or darker shades for that matter. does anyone have a picture of all different shades?

[cenvil2001]

today I have met some guy from italy and he was wearing a 16610 LV and it was a lighter shade, almost like lime as someone previously suggested. I must say I didnt like it. I think the darker shade is much more royalty looking.

[submariner1]

I have a D series LV...and it has the older yellow-green look to it....and it is true that the newer models have a much "richer" green....less yellow...more turqoise added....I blend colors for a living...so I can see where Rolex was trying to go with this....also...does anyone know why Rolex chose "green" for their anniversary models??? I am under the impression that this is Rolex's flagship color....hence the color changes...perhaps to be nearer to the "rolex green?" just a thought....

Green is the Rolex corperate color. Thats why boxes are green, GMT IIC 24 hour hands, sub. bezels etc... Hope this helps

[jets]

Hi.
Some one knows wat type of packing had the first serie of 50th annyversari series?
It's the actual one or is the wood packing case.?

Thanks

Y96**** Serial. The Insert is cleary more pale or olive in terms of shades of green. They became progressively darker and richer in colour later on. Although I prefer the new and richer shade of green, I spotted this beauty and a grey dealer and had her cleaned up. A true 50th...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/jets_76/Wristwatches/LV_1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/jets_76/Wristwatches/LV_2.jpg

[Art 1]

That's a nice review, I purchased an LV Sub back when they were hard to find. It didn't get much wrist time so I let it go, did alright on the sale but really miss that watch.

[Alan111]

They all look the same to me

[Danely]

Anybody have any opinions as to the marketability of the green 50th Anniversary model, and its value as a collector's item ?

[seandon]

Valentine- As to why Rolex chose green for their anniversary color, I was under the impression it was chosen to honor their relationship with Wimbledon and have heard the color referred to as "Wimbeldon Green".

[plat-numb]

I really like that dark green but...

I would trade my YM for a dark BLUE sub like that in a heart beat!

If they made one!!! :thinking:

And I don't like gold, so don't say the 2tone!

The WG blue sub is too light of a blue.

Dark blue dial with normal black sub dial... would be my ultimate dream watch! Pt,WG,SS... whatever! :blah: (and it would be black and blue so would go with anything! LOL!!!)

[pheck]

I own the green sub 16610 LV also. I am also looking to buy a black replacement bezel. It is difficult to do where I live (Luxemborg and Belgium) because delaers refuse. So where can I find one that is an original Rolex part and that will fit. Some say the size of the green bezel is somewhat different. Thanks.

[dfh27490]

I don't have ANY sub, but want it to be my next purchase, and think the Maxi-Dial on the LV is perfect! :cheers:

Problem is, the green isn't for me personally, but as others have noted, would hate to buy the LV, then replace the insert rendering it "non-original." So what do I do? :crying::crying::crying:

Thinking the new SS subs with the larger case will be "too big" and "to square" yet the current SS subs have a dial with hour markers I deem as a tad "too small." (Though granted, the venerable sub is an all time classic - :cheers:)

The LV has everything just right. . . . except for those of us who prefer a black bezel. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

What to do, what to do? :thinking::thinking:

[the ticking scotsman]

Does yours have Lug holes in the side of the case?

Y series is the 2003 production and could be said to be the only true 50th Anniversary 16610lv watch. I sold mine shortly after purchase as I could resist the huge offer - have 3 of them now - F D and Z


also there is a change between the various series's of the rolexrolexrolex inscription on the inside of the face, don't quote me on which series but i belive that the first batch did not have the inscription on the inside of the face - (making them a little bit rarer) as for the colour change i believe it much the same as any other change, i relate it to porsche styling it mever really changes but it does, i think its a way of keeping the watches from being faked in a sence?