Threads being Hijacked

[Rto]

Hello All,
Since I've decided to join this forum maybe 2 months ago I've been learning a lot of info about Rolex watches, having a lot of fun with all here.

Recently I just figured out that some important threads (most tech and informative ones) were hijacked and so ending up and becoming lost in the mid and/or not getting to what it was supposed to. (sometimes the author of the thread did not get to all the answers he was trying to get or deserve it)

In the majority of the times the cause for this hijacking were jokes as per my point of view funny, but maybe not on the right moment or on the right thread due to the importance of the subject...(IMHO)

What I'm trying to tell is that sometimes we are maybe missing some stuff due to that.

My suggestion (of course to be discussed by the Mods and members here) would be asking people to try keep the "off topic" comments in general for a specific category of threads (maybe "open forum ones") and maybe not on "General rolex" for example).

I certainly made some coments as well, but just start feeling that those ones were maybe "harmfull" to the thread and contribute to change o a wrong way the meaning of the thread.

(Ps. There is not an intention here to go against freedom of speech or anything like that...just a try to organize better and avoid loosing great started threads)

Thanks and all your coments would be more than appreciated.:cheers:

[C.J.]

Alot of threads do get hijacked. Although, I can't recall seeing one that didn't receive good and informative answers either prior to or along with some bashing and laughs.:thumbsup:

[dman]

Renato, you gotta understand some history behind many of the regulars here. We were all at another board at one time. That place wanted to be known as a "serious" place to talk horology. Long story short and leaving out the blood, we are all here now.

I think that the questions are ALMOST always answered and in a timely manner at that. Usually the first page of a thread has some integrity and knowledge.

You will find that the MODs here don't want to be over involved, let the members moderate themselves till someone MUST step in.

But as far as the topics going astray, that is sort of a reason that we found TRF, it allowed us to talk watches, but more importantly hang out with friends, and even more importantly make fun of JJ. (Sorry, I really can't help myself) :chuckle:

Hope this is a little better understanding of the background of this place. We don't want to be "that" place or "the" place. We want to be ourselves, help each other out, help new members and make them feel welcome and have fun.

We came here because of watches, we stayed because of the people.

:cheers:

[C.J.]

Renato, you gotta understand some history behind many of the regulars here. We were all at another board at one time. That place wanted to be known as a "serious" place to talk horology. Long story short and leaving out the blood, we are all here now.

I think that the questions are ALMOST always answered and in a timely manner at that. Usually the first page of a thread has some integrity and knowledge.

You will find that the MODs here don't want to be over involved, let the members moderate themselves till someone MUST step in.

But as far as the topics going astray, that is sort of a reason that we found TRF, it allowed us to talk watches, but more importantly hang out with friends, and even more importantly make fun of JJ. (Sorry, I really can't help myself) :chuckle:

Hope this is a little better understanding of the background of this place. We don't want to be "that" place or "the" place. We want to be ourselves, help each other out, help new members and make them feel welcome and have fun.

We came here because of watches, we stayed because of the people.

:cheers:

Spot on, D :cheers: :cheers:

[JJ Irani]

Renato,

BEWARE!!:banghead: You are listening to words of wisdom from the current tosser number 1 and 2...so please don't believe all that you read. I am the main target here as always, and it is these very guys who always love to hijack threads!!:lol: :lol: :lol: :justkiddi :justkiddi :justkiddi

However, on a serious note, you will notice if someone does ask a genuinely serious question, many of us jump in to help him out and answer his question to the best of our ability.

None of us here (with the possible exception of Padi and perhaps a couple of others) are real experts on the subject. The little knowledge I have has been attained over years of Rolex playing around, that's all!!

This is probably the BEST forum in town....you will NEVER find a more friendly, informative and great bunch of guys. And hijacking is simply the way these guys were brought up....terrible!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :justkiddi

[padi56]

Well Renato I must agree with you to a point,but I would say that most
questions are answered first.But thats the way we are,we can be serious sometimes,but life's to short to take things to serious,seriously.

[mailman]

Has anybody noticed the price of bananas lately? :thinking: :lol: :lol: :bartmoon:

[Prince]

Yes, we have no bananas today! http://idisk.mac.com/reichea/Public/banana.gifhttp://idisk.mac.com/reichea/Public/banana.gifhttp://idisk.mac.com/reichea/Public/banana.gif

[Manatee]

Rto,

I think the watch-related forums here generally focus on watches, whereas the general forum is purely (or should I say "pueriley" ;-)) social. You can always visit a site like Timezone, where the strictly-watch-talk rule seems to be enforced, and perhaps that will help balance your watch forum experience.

Were I to rank various watch forums in order of "members with detailed watch knowledge" this one wouldn't be among the highest. You'll find more opinions and emotion here. Not that there's anything wrong with that. That's just the way it has evolved, and the regulars are happy with it the way it is.

One thing they might do here to make the watch forums (Rolex and non-Rolex) look more like watch forums is to disable the silly gifs in those forums. When you're reading through a thread that starts out with actual watch information, and then turns into one of TRF's stereotypical "ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL THUMBS-UP THUMBS-UP" self-congratulatory gigglefests, it becomes pretty easy to discount the value of the technical information that preceded it.

Anyway, accept it for what it is, and balance it with visits to a variety of watch forums.

Peter

[Goodwatch]

You will not be the first one to make this (valid in the right context) remark and you will certainly not be the last. In fact, past comments were sometimes harsh. I***8217;m a member of a couple of other forums (and past member of other watch forums, this going back 7 years or so) and I must say I find TRF a revelation. It***8217;s a good thing for a one topic forum owner (some of them put in a lot of hours, effort and money) to guard the integrity of that forum. But this can amount to straight-jacket like moderation. This potentially kills all laid back and often harmless fun.

Because I***8217;m biased now, I can only say that I think most serious questions receive a serious answer. Agreed, after that, the thread usually receives the hijack treatment. But this is TRF. One thing worth mentioning: TRF has never shown any pretense in the ***8216;we are a serious forum department***8217;. But members here are true lovers of fine, mechanical watches and most of them not just blind devotees of Rolex. That***8217;s one of the many good things about TRF. We know that despite all it***8217;s qualities (and shortcomings) Rolex isn***8217;t the best watch in the world. Far from it. But it***8217;s still a hell of a watch and an icon.

[Earl]

Well said Frans :o)

[Uncle-AJ]

The secret to a good hijack is to do it without anyone noticing. Subtlety is the secret, stay around, you may learn a few tricks. :chuckle:

[Launch Mini]

Don't forget many of our members own other watches that Rolex & wear them daily rather than the Rollie. These guys would be booted from other forums.
Heck, some threads on other places get edited for mentioning non watch stuff.
Plus, JJ is even further behind on the time difference now, so we can bash him before he gets a chance to defend himself.
I however, after my valiant effort to make the top 3 spot on the tosser list, will be stepping down in my efforts. Not stopping, just stepping back a bit.

[JJ Irani]

Don't forget many of our members own other watches that Rolex & wear them daily rather than the Rollie. These guys would be booted from other forums.
Heck, some threads on other places get edited for mentioning non watch stuff.
Plus, JJ is even further behind on the time difference now, so we can bash him before he gets a chance to defend himself.
I however, after my valiant effort to make the top 3 spot on the tosser list, will be stepping down in my efforts. Not stopping, just stepping back a bit.
The time difference has, in fact, decreased, tosser!!:dummy:

Remember, NZ went one hour back while you guys went an hour forward!!:chuckle:

So, for example, if N.Y. was -18 hours NZ, it is now only -16 hours NZ.

[Goodwatch]

The secret to a good hijack is to do it without anyone noticing. Subtlety is the secret, stay around, you may learn a few tricks. :chuckle:

Give that man a pound of sausages.......

[Launch Mini]

JJ that all changed again, We switched last weekend.
Having a blonde moment here.

[JJ Irani]

JJ that all changed again, We switched last weekend.
Having a blonde moment here.
I'm aware of that and I've said so in my post. We went back and you guys went forward!! :dummy:

[Launch Mini]

No problem JJ, I guess when your bald, you can't have Blonde moments?

[C.J.]

Rto,

I think the watch-related forums here generally focus on watches, whereas the general forum is purely (or should I say "pueriley" ;-)) social. You can always visit a site like Timezone, where the strictly-watch-talk rule seems to be enforced, and perhaps that will help balance your watch forum experience.

Were I to rank various watch forums in order of "members with detailed watch knowledge" this one wouldn't be among the highest. You'll find more opinions and emotion here. Not that there's anything wrong with that. That's just the way it has evolved, and the regulars are happy with it the way it is.

One thing they might do here to make the watch forums (Rolex and non-Rolex) look more like watch forums is to disable the silly gifs in those forums. When you're reading through a thread that starts out with actual watch information, and then turns into one of TRF's stereotypical "ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL THUMBS-UP THUMBS-UP" self-congratulatory gigglefests, it becomes pretty easy to discount the value of the technical information that preceded it.

Anyway, accept it for what it is, and balance it with visits to a variety of watch forums.

Peter


I don't see where the smileys discredit or devalue information at all, Peter. They seems to be a way of showing emotion and in most cases appreciation. I rarely saw them as self-congratulatory. I think the smileys help set the mood of this forum. I for one stayed here because of that. :thumbsup:

[mailman]

You will not be the first one to make this (valid in the right context) remark and you will certainly not be the last. In fact, past comments were sometimes harsh. I’m a member of a couple of other forums (and past member of other watch forums, this going back 7 years or so) and I must say I find TRF a revelation. It’s a good thing for a one topic forum owner (some of them put in a lot of hours, effort and money) to guard the integrity of that forum. But this can amount to straight-jacket like moderation. This potentially kills all laid back and often harmless fun.

Because I’m biased now, I can only say that I think most serious questions receive a serious answer. Agreed, after that, the thread usually receives the hijack treatment. But this is TRF. One thing worth mentioning: TRF has never shown any pretense in the ‘we are a serious forum department’. But members here are true lovers of fine, mechanical watches and most of them not just blind devotees of Rolex. That’s one of the many good things about TRF. We know that despite all it’s qualities (and shortcomings) Rolex isn’t the best watch in the world. Far from it. But it’s still a hell of a watch and an icon.
I never thought I'd be saying this but EXCELLENT POINTS FRANS:banghead: :banghead: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers:

[----]

I never thought I'd be saying this but EXCELLENT POINTS FRANS:banghead: :banghead: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Just thought I would add some contratulatory gif's in this thread.........

;-) <====== that one's for you, Peter.

[Manatee]

;-) <====== that one's for you, Peter.
Thanks, Al. That's a more appropriate smiley for those of us who are cheerful, but not effusive. :-)

[Manatee]

I don't see where the smileys discredit or devalue information at all, Peter. They seems to be a way of showing emotion and in most cases appreciation. I rarely saw them as self-congratulatory. I think the smileys help set the mood of this forum. I for one stayed here because of that. :thumbsup:
Well as I said, a lot of the commentary on watches, and responses to questions about watches, is based in emotion. By self-congratulatory, I meant that it's a form of "insider" talk among the regulars. No problem with that -- we have similar things on my other watch forum. I think I notice it more here becuase the core group of posters is smaller, so there's a greater concentration of the same few people saying the same things.

When I re-read it, my comment does appear harsh. I should have retracted that. Several times a day I write something (in my typically wise-assed tone) and my finger hovers between the "post" button and the "back" button. I made the wrong choice this time. :-(

[dman]

The time difference has, in fact, decreased, tosser!!:dummy:

Remember, NZ went one hour back while you guys went an hour forward!!:chuckle:

So, for example, if N.Y. was -18 hours NZ, it is now only -16 hours NZ.
He was making a point JJ, he doesn't really care. :dummy: :chuckle: :bartmoon: :justkiddi

[dman]

I never thought I'd be saying this but EXCELLENT POINTS FRANS:banghead: :banghead: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers:
Good points Frans? Where? On the tips of his ears? :chuckle:

[C.J.]

Well as I said, a lot of the commentary on watches, and responses to questions about watches, is based in emotion. By self-congratulatory, I meant that it's a form of "insider" talk among the regulars. No problem with that -- we have similar things on my other watch forum. I think I notice it more here becuase the core group of posters is smaller, so there's a greater concentration of the same few people saying the same things.

When I re-read it, my comment does appear harsh. I should have retracted that. Several times a day I write something (in my typically wise-assed tone) and my finger hovers between the "post" button and the "back" button. I made the wrong choice this time. :-(

Very well said, Peter. Thanks for understanding :-)

[mailman]

Good points Frans? Where? On the tips of his ears? :chuckle:
Live long and prosper :chuckle: :chuckle:

[Earl]

ok who did it, who hi-jacked this thread that was smooth and slick as $h|t.

[----]

Well as I said, a lot of the commentary on watches, and responses to questions about watches, is based in emotion. By self-congratulatory, I meant that it's a form of "insider" talk among the regulars. No problem with that -- we have similar things on my other watch forum. I think I notice it more here becuase the core group of posters is smaller, so there's a greater concentration of the same few people saying the same things.

When I re-read it, my comment does appear harsh. I should have retracted that. Several times a day I write something (in my typically wise-assed tone) and my finger hovers between the "post" button and the "back" button. I made the wrong choice this time. :-(

It's okay Peter, those of us who know you, know you are a good guy.......and hey, most of us make a goofy post now and again. Heck that almost happened to me once! ;-)

:thumbsup:

[Manatee]

...those of us who know you, know you are a good guy...
Careful, Al! I've got a reputation to maintain. :-)

[padi56]

Well as I said, a lot of the commentary on watches, and responses to questions about watches, is based in emotion. By self-congratulatory, I meant that it's a form of "insider" talk among the regulars. No problem with that -- we have similar things on my other watch forum. I think I notice it more here becuase the core group of posters is smaller, so there's a greater concentration of the same few people saying the same things.

When I re-read it, my comment does appear harsh. I should have retracted that. Several times a day I write something (in my typically wise-assed tone) and my finger hovers between the "post" button and the "back" button. I made the wrong choice this time. :-(
Well said Peter.:-)

[Rockrolex]

Careful, Al! I've got a reputation to maintain. :-)
Don't worry, Peter. Your reputation is intact and completely and totally sullied.

P.S. These are for you: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Rockrolex]

And once again, another successful thread hijack. :rofl: :rofl:

You see, Renato, the problem with TRF is that we are all so used to hijacking threads that we are incapable of stopping. It's a disease we have. The problem is that I find it carries over into my everyday life outside TRF (Yes, Virginia, there is a life outside, no matter what our BKL friend thinks :lol: ). I find myself wanting to make wise a$$ comments in e-mails to colleagues and (worse) clients. I really have to stop myself and concentrate on hitting the "back" button at those times. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Earl]

Well as I said, a lot of the commentary on watches, and responses to questions about watches, is based in emotion. By self-congratulatory, I meant that it's a form of "insider" talk among the regulars. No problem with that -- we have similar things on my other watch forum. I think I notice it more here becuase the core group of posters is smaller, so there's a greater concentration of the same few people saying the same things.

When I re-read it, my comment does appear harsh. I should have retracted that. Several times a day I write something (in my typically wise-assed tone) and my finger hovers between the "post" button and the "back" button. I made the wrong choice this time. :-(

All is forgiven ..... hmmmmmm here's my chance.. ! Peter were you saying some time back you needed a nice place to keep your watches? Well have I a deal for you.... yes sir, I've recently invested in an invisable safe, thats righ you heard it here an invisable safe. Now where better to store your nice watches but in my invisable safe?

just a thought and wanting to help out a friend in need ;o) :read: oh by the way the small print doesn't say anything about you loosing watch wearing rights if you fail to find your nice watches in the said safe.

[Manatee]

All is forgiven ..... hmmmmmm here's my chance.. ! Peter were you saying some time back you needed a nice place to keep your watches? Well have I a deal for you.... yes sir, I've recently invested in an invisable safe, thats righ you heard it here an invisable safe. Now where better to store your nice watches but in my invisable safe?

just a thought and wanting to help out a friend in need ;o) :read: oh by the way the small print doesn't say anything about you loosing watch wearing rights if you fail to find your nice watches in the said safe.
Gee, thanks for the offer, Earl, but I think I'll go with Plan B: I'll give you a stack of invisible money so you can buy your own watches. :-)

[Launch Mini]

What if you misplace the invisible safe??
Heck I lose my keys & they aren't invisible.

[Atomic]

What if you misplace the invisible safe??
Heck I lose my keys & they aren't invisible.

And don't talk to me about my invisible bikes. I ordered a dozen of them and damned if I can find them... but I trip and fall in the house more than I used to....:thinking: :rofl:

[JJ Irani]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[----]

And don't talk to me about my invisible bikes. I ordered a dozen of them and damned if I can find them... but I trip and fall in the house more than I used to....:thinking: :rofl:

The real question is, who is shipping the invisible bikes?

:chuckle: :chuckle:

[Atomic]

The real question is, who is shipping the invisible bikes?

:chuckle: :chuckle:


That's important, but the bigger question is, if they're invisible, do they cost less to ship (does invisible mean lighter?). Are the shipping boxes invisible too?:thinking:

[JJ Irani]

That's important, but the bigger question is, if they're invisible, do they cost less to ship (does invisible mean lighter?). Are the shipping boxes invisible too?:thinking:
Shouldn't we be talking about watches instead of all this :bullshit: :bullshit: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Earl]

well, if your sure about this, I just wanted to give you the option..... As far as your giveing me money to go buy more watches.... nawwwwww I have enough for the moment but, I think I'll take your money and put it in my safe and hold onto it as you never know when you may need some. Now if I can just remember where I left that safe! ;o)

[Earl]

Good point John I just remembered I have CRS (Can't Remember $h|t) and in fact can not remember where I put it.... You know I'm going to stub my toe on it one day and I'll remember LoL

[Rockrolex]

Shouldn't we be talking about watches instead of all this :bullshit: :bullshit: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I thought this started out as a hijacking thread. Why should we be talking about watches unless you want to hijack this thread again? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Prince]

And once again, another successful thread hijack. :rofl: :rofl:
You see, Renato, the problem with TRF is that we are all so used to hijacking threads that we are incapable of stopping...
Yes, and why the hell should we stop? I mean, the earth will not stop spinning, will it? The sea will not dry up, will it? JJ will not become any more insane, will he? Oops, scratch that last one... :dummy: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

[kingblackbolt]

Renato,

I can see your point in the right context don't get me wrong. This forum is so unique though due to the fact that the members can give you all the important info you want and then have a damn good time with the subject or just with each other (at each others expense of course... especially JJ!) I know for a fact that if a question is serious the info given will always be dead on and provided first and foremost. I know myself that I always get a PM or two when I really need an answer...