The Rolex Ceramic Bezel Submariner.......

[Tools]

It's hard to say what to call the latest offerings from Rolex for the iconic Submariner.

Solid Gold cases and bracelets, and ceramic bezel inserts..... They are technologically a masterpiece. Some hate them, and some love them. It does seem, though, the ceramic (Cerachrome in Rolex Speak) is here to stay..

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Specs for the White Gold Version:
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[cousie]

I just bought this one :) fantastic watch!!

[cousie]

http://www.rolexforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51751&d=1232384546
51751

this one :agree:

[kudosguy]

Beautiful watches. My favourite has to be the WG Sub!

[mretzloff]

Why isn't the crown and the word "Rolex" golden-color, the way it was on the older YG Submariner?

[cousie]

Why isn't the crown and the word "Rolex" golden-color, the way it was on the older YG Submariner?

I like it more this way (white) gives it a more younger touch imo

[moby33]

I am one that actually loves the 'upgrades' of the new Sub...supercase, maxi-dial, fatter hands and better clasp. My only complaint is the PCL's. I can live with it on the WG/YG versions as I highly doubt anyone will be doing much diving with those versions (not to mention I'll never buy one), but I sure hope the SS version maintains a full brushed link bracelet.

The SS Sub is too sporty IMO to have PCLs...leave it all brushed as it goes great w/ water sporting activities but still looks amazing with a suit. I don't really see the need to dress up this watch. If there's ever a situation where the term "Less is More" is appropriate, it would be in this regard.

[yannis7777]

Beautiful watch! Can't wait for the SS models.
Frédéric can you post any pics from your new Sub mate?

[vapalux]

Theres a least two there I would like to get my hands on

Time to start saving!

Any prices available for them

Thanks for the pics:thumbsup:

Si:cheers::cheers:

[onkyo]

Thanks for the pics Tools. :clap:

I really like the WG sub but two things worry me.... 1- price 2- scratches.

The ceramic bezels are great and I do hope they stick around for a long while.

:cheers:

[BZA]

Theres a least two there I would like to get my hands on

Time to start saving!

Any prices available for them

Thanks for the pics:thumbsup:

Si:cheers::cheers:

Around £15K retail for the gold subs - around £17k for WG i believe

[vapalux]

Yowee. I better start really saving!!

Thanks for the info:thumbsup:

Si:cheers::cheers:

[Dr.B]

Can't wait to see the SS ones.....:-)

[rayt]

they are all nice....

[JJ Irani]

Beautiful pics, Larry.....many thanks for sharing.

But for once I have to say......the BLACK looks far, far better than that insipid BLUE!! :thumbsdow

[Latrodectus]

Great looking watches!
Thanks for pointing that out!

[Perdu]

What a stunning watch.

[SSD]

I like everything but the blue. And now I want to see what the SS version will be like! I'm curious about Basel once more.

:cheers:

[Clarence]

Cant wait cant wait oh boy oh boy...

[cousie]

here is my watch :chuckle:

[moby33]

here is my watch :chuckle:

Wow...that's the first wrist shot I've seen of the new supercased Sub. Great shots.

Hey guys, help me out with this...is it me, or does the relationship between the supercase at the lugs compared to its bracelet seem even larger than the relationship on the DSSD? Is the new Subs end link 20mm or 21mm like the DSSD? From your pics, the case definitely appears wider than the DSSD. Optical illusion?

Comparison example:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k228/lightning33/img_1911_1.jpg

[cousie]

Wow...that's the first wrist shot I've seen of the new supercased Sub. Great shots.

Hey guys, help me out with this...is it me, or does the relationship between the supercase at the lugs compared to its bracelet seem even larger than the relationship on the DSSD? Is the new Subs end link 20mm or 21mm like the DSSD? From your pics, the case definitely appears wider than the DSSD. Optical illusion?

Comparison example:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k228/lightning33/img_1911_1.jpg

I think thats just optic illusion, I have very small wrists. I first ordered the dssd but than again with my small wrist thats just too much...

[moby33]

I think thats just optic illusion, I have very small wrists. I first ordered the dssd but than again with my small wrist thats just too much...

I wonder...actually, not sure if I was clear as my observation had to do strictly with the relationship of the case to bracelet, regardless of the size of wrist the watch is on.

For some reason it seems in your photos that the width of the case at the lugs is 'fatter' than those on the DSSD (in relationship to the SEL on the bracelet). I guess the only way to tell would be to examine both side by side or take exact measurements of their width. Cheers.

[flumazenil]

Beautiful watches. I am lume verdi with envy!

[jaelyncruz]

Nice watches!

[jands8916]

Looks like my GMTIIc without the 4th hand... but otherwise same case dimensions with the beefy case shoulders/lugs that overhang the bracelet. bring on the SS and the new super LV! green baby, ... green!

[3266]

SS Version - Talk to me!!! :joy:

[SUB4Me]

I'm sorry but with that blocky looking case it just doesn't look like a sub anymore. Its hard to tell it from the GMTIIc now, they both look almost identical.

[Omega_Precision]

Sub has always looked like the GMT...and vice versa. It has been like this for decades.

[arezzo66]

Don't you think the old skool nipple black dial gold sub looks better than the new one?

S

[Imtiaz]

Great photos of great looking watches.

Will be on my 2010 shopping list for sure.

Thanks for sharing

[anipit]

Hey Guys!!! Gold is always gold.
But if i have to choose i prefer yellow gold + black dial/bezel.
Personally i think the blue one will sell more if in SSteel.

[Mosco]

I love my all-Gold GMT IIc with ceramic bezel, so I am sure the Sub will look sweeeeeet!

[SDDS]

very nice wrist shot..

[DoxaFan]

Most God awful thing I have seen. They took an iconic watch and destroyed it. Doesn't even look like a Sub anymore. :(

[xtra3cats]

here is my watch :chuckle:
woweee, manly watch!

[Spaniard]

Nice watch

[moby33]

Most God awful thing I have seen. They took an iconic watch and destroyed it. Doesn't even look like a Sub anymore. :(
Can't say I agree. While the new 'Smurf' blue is not necessarily my taste, I think your point of view is a little extreme. If you think the new Sub is 'God awful' then how can you like the look of past Subs? I would hardly classify the changes as extreme...to be honest I think they are pretty subtle and not very drastic in the least. "Doesn't even look like a Sub anymore"...come on, now that is exaggerating to the nth degree IMO. :banghead:

First shot is of the "Iconic" Sub w/ the second of the "God awful, destroyed, doesn't even look like a Sub anymore" version (albeit in SS and black). While I realize this Supercased SS hasn't hit the market yet (and probably won't come with red text), I borrowed this graphic artist rendition by fellow TRF member Jake...the SS version will probably look identical to this minus red text and hopefully all brushed brand. How anyone can say this no longer looks like a Sub is beyond me. :dummy: If you're referring strictly on the blue version, again, the color might not be perfect for some, but I don't think the watch in general has been ruined. :cheers:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k228/lightning33/Picture_9_profile.png

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k228/lightning33/RedSub.jpg

[els4]

Moby 33, Thanks for the comparison photo's. The "new" Sub SS looks very nice, but I do think the slightly narrower lugs on the current Sub are better balanced with the band. Just joined TRF today, and this is my first post/reply.

Edgars

[bxdiaz]

First post - so I should first say that the info on the this board is superb.

I bought my SS Sub 13 years ago and I'm thinking of replacing the bezel - first I thought about aftermarket bezels and replacing it myself. But now that I see the ceramic bezels - has anyone else thought of "updating" their old bezels to the new ones?

If so, should I contact an AD to get this done? how much would you estimate? or would it be better to do it myself (even if at all possible?).

[moby33]

Moby 33, Thanks for the comparison photo's. The "new" Sub SS looks very nice, but I do think the slightly narrower lugs on the current Sub are better balanced with the band. Just joined TRF today, and this is my first post/reply.

Edgars

Welcome.

No doubt they do look slightly different and I'm not taking sides on which one looks better/better balanced as I believe that is 100% subjective to personal tastes...my issue has to do with the degree of similarities with the two watches. Anyone that thinks the 'updated' version has completely destroyed the watch and it's essentially no longer recognizable as a Sub seems to be stretching quite a bit IMO.

[els4]

I have to agree with you that it is completely subjective, and I also agree that the new one is unmistakeably a Sub, just slightly different. I guess if it had no changes there would be no need for us to consider buying the new one. This could get expensive. I'm sure my wife will be thrilled that I found TRF.

[moby33]

I have to agree with you that it is completely subjective, and I also agree that the new one is unmistakeably a Sub, just slightly different. I guess if it had no changes there would be no need for us to consider buying the new one. This could get expensive. I'm sure my wife will be thrilled that I found TRF.

Oh man...you're in trouble now. :chuckle:

[Tombstone]

I agree can't wait till next year for the SS Subs. I figure the sales levels will still stink so I guess I will have mine one month after the show.

[rmcarlton]

Interesting. I'm still undecided on the super case. Time will tell. Thanks for posting the pics.

[rolexcd]

Hope they can do the same to ss models as well very soon, in particular, for LV.

[johnnybazookajoe]

I think this watch is incredible, but there would be no way I could pull it off on a regular basis. I would be excited to see someone wearing this on an airplane, and might actually decide to strike up a conversation instead of pretending I'm asleep.

[jimysgr]

I just bought one gmt master 2 and i am very happy the ceramic bezel is fantastic !! Well done guys in rolex for this gorgeous piece of art!!!

[bartonjet]

After owning hundreds of Rolex watches from an short career in International Trading. I can honestly say that this is the only Rolex I ever bought at an AD (besides my wife's watch).

[dingo99]

I am curious as to when the White Gold Submariner with Blue Dial was introduced. I have the chance to buy a "used" one but am not sure if the info on the COA is correct.
The style is E1161960B9325
The serial# starts with a "Z" which means late 2007 production (I think).
The watch was purchased Feb 2008.

I have been told by some Rolex collecters that this watches serial cannot start with a "Z" it must be either "M" or "Y".

I am a novice when it comes to Rolex info, so and help or advise would be greatly appreciated.

[JJ Irani]

I am curious as to when the White Gold Submariner with Blue Dial was introduced. I have the chance to buy a "used" one but am not sure if the info on the COA is correct.
The style is E1161960B9325
The serial# starts with a "Z" which means late 2007 production (I think).
The watch was purchased Feb 2008.

I have been told by some Rolex collecters that this watches serial cannot start with a "Z" it must be either "M" or "Y".

I am a novice when it comes to Rolex info, so and help or advise would be greatly appreciated.

The WG Sub was introduced last year, Basel 2008. Never really kicked off the shelves due to the fact that it's too damned expensive and, for that kind of money, you'd be better off with the new DD-II!!

JJ

[Rebel]

Looks great.

[crayfish]

Could someone point me to a place that has the details of what has changed on the Sub - sure I know it has a ceramic bezel now, but what else - is there a resource that has every single detail?

[moby33]

Could someone point me to a place that has the details of what has changed on the Sub - sure I know it has a ceramic bezel now, but what else - is there a resource that has every single detail?
Maxi-Dial, Supercase, new Glidelock clasp. All improvements IMO.

[bokmeipai]

this one :agree:

It's a beauty

[cousie]

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/cousie1/IMG_2194.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/cousie1/IMG_2192.jpg

:)

[rmatz]

can some please tell me when the new supercased stainless steel sub is hitting the stores.
I stopped by a few days ago and asked the clerk but he could not give me a straight answer

[JJ Irani]

can some please tell me when the new supercased stainless steel sub is hitting the stores.
I stopped by a few days ago and asked the clerk but he could not give me a straight answer

Possibly next month - at least, that's when my AD gets in their new stock from Basel 2009!! :dude::dude:

[moby33]

Possibly next month - at least, that's when my AD gets in their new stock from Basel 2009!! :dude::dude:

I think he was asking about the SS not the TT.

If that is the case, your guess is as good as anybody else's...but common assumption is the supercased SS Sub will be debuted at next years Basel (assuming the Sub follows the same progression as the IIC)...meaning we won't be able to get our hands on one until probably the end of summer '10 (and no doubt at a premium to be one of the first owners). Cheers.

[rmatz]

Sorry for the idiotic question, but I assume SS stands for stainless steel, I'm not clear as to what TT stands for.
and I was asking about the SS Sub

[JJ Irani]

Sorry for the idiotic question, but I assume SS stands for stainless steel, I'm not clear as to what TT stands for.
and I was asking about the SS Sub

TT = Two Tone, i.e. steel and gold.

JJ

[Submarino]

TT means two-tone. SS and Gold.

[mluther]

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/cousie1/IMG_2194.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/cousie1/IMG_2192.jpg

:)

Wow - your gold sub is simply stunning - love it :cheers:

[drockadam]

Gorgeous Submariners! Really love the Black one on the first page. Gold Sub is beautiful as well.