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colemanitis
30 June 2006, 11:52 AM
I received this preowned Rolex watch (GMT-Master 16750) on June 1, 2006. This is my first Rolex timepiece.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS

WOW! What else can I say. This particular watch had been freshly serviced by a Rolex Service Center (RSC) before I received it. It came complete with the original box, tag, GMT manual/booklet, and of course the 1yr Rolex warranty/service receipt. While at the RSC the watch received a new dial, hands, bezel insert, crown, oyster band, acrylic, and a good polish job to the original case. I felt as though I just received a brand new watch even though it's over 20 years old (circa approx 1984).

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THE DIAL

The black Luminova dial is beautiful and easy to read. Each hour marker is outlined with 18k white gold, which is highly reflective and adds depth to the dial by giving the markers a raised appearance. The dial also reads 'Superlative Chronometer, Officially Certified'. This identifies that the watch was tested and approved as a certified chronometer by the Controle Officiel Suisse des Chronometres (COSC). This assures the buyer that the watch is accurate to -4/+6 seconds/day. My GMT has been extremely accurate. I've owned this watch for 29 days and according to www.time.gov it's only gained 13 seconds! This is less than 1/2 second/day. I'm extremely pleased with this outcome. The four hands (hour, minutes, seconds, 24hr) are also outlined in 18k white gold and are easily seen against the black dial. The hands as well as the hour markers have a decent lume (glow) making time reading in the dark an easy task.

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THE DATE

As with many Rolex watches the GMT-Master has a date feature, therefore the dial reads 'Oyster Perpetual Date' just beneath the Rolex logo. Having the date on the dial is an invaluable tool for me, as I never seem to know what day it is. The date is magnified by the acrylic cyclopse by 21/2X. The 16750 also has the quick-set feature, which enables you to set the date without having to adjust the minutes and hour hands.

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THE CRYSTAL

The GMT-Master 16750 was outfitted with an acrylic crystal. Compared to sapphire, acrylic scratches much easier. I use a polishing cloth to regularly clean the acrylic of smudges and fingerprints - this has worked quite well. I wouldn't recommend using any other materials to clean the acrylic (eg: t-shirt, papertowel, washcloth, etc.) as these will leave fine scratches behind. I also love the raised/thick appearance of the vintage acrylic... they don't come like this anymore!

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THE 24 HOUR BEZEL

You're probably already aware that the GMT is capable of displaying two different time zones. The 24hr bezel is easy to read and understand. It rotates both in the CW and CCW direction. One feature I really enjoy about the GMT bezel is the ability to 'swap' bezel inserts. Within 15 minutes you can go from a black GMT to a Pepsi (red/blue) GMT!

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THE CROWN

As stated in many other GMT reviews, the crown is simply too small. Unless you have small hands unscrewing the crown is a bit inconvenient. Also, the surrounding crown-guards don't make the task any easier. It's certianly not a deal breaker, but it is worth mentioning.

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THE BAND

My GMT 16750 came with the stainless steel (SS) Oyster band, which is my personal favorite. It's flexible, comfortable, and very attractive. The clasp is easy to operate and feels solid/strong. It's nice not having to worry about my 'baby' falling off of my wrist. The original Rolex band can be easily removed (yes, there are advantages to having open lugs) and swaped with other bands or straps.

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WATER RESISTANCE

The GMT 16750 is capable of diving to 100 meters/330 feet. Since I live on the Florida coast, it's a must to have a water proof watch. My GMT frequents swimming pools, lakes, and will be used occasionally for snorkeling and other ocean related play. There's not many places I'm not willing to take this watch.

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FINAL COMMENTS

Go buy this watch righ now! Seriously, this is a great timepiece - a Rolex classic. I've been very pleased with this watch over the past month and I plan on wearing this watch for many years to come. I never thought owning a watch could be so rewarding - IT CAN!

C.J.
30 June 2006, 12:10 PM
Very nice :clap: Thanks for the review :cheers:

mailman
30 June 2006, 01:00 PM
Great pics and review. :thumbsup: Thanks :thumbsup:

JJ Irani
30 June 2006, 05:05 PM
Excellent review, Jeff...thanks!! :thumbsup:

Errr...just 2 things:

1. All Rolex cyclops magnification is 2½ times and not 3.

2. I notice you have 6 links on each side of your bracelet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is your clasp centralised in the middle of your wrist with this link configuration?:thinking: I'd be surprised if it is!!

Try this: Place 7 links on the '12' side and only 5 links on the '6' side. With this new arrangement, the clasp will centralise prefectly when you flick your wrist around. Remember, you must always have more links on the '12' side than the '6' in order to get a perfect, centralised fit like this....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/JJIrani/DSCN7289.jpg

Let me know how it works out!!

Cheers - JJ:cheers:

colemanitis
30 June 2006, 08:51 PM
Thanks JJ. I corrected the magnification to 2 1/2. I'll also take a look at the bracelet.

mike
1 July 2006, 12:01 AM
Great review!!:thumbsup:
I agree the 16750 gives one the best of all worlds, the vintage look with modern features.:cheers:

AJC
1 July 2006, 12:11 AM
Nice read and great pictures.:thumbsup:

Aaron:cheers:

GMTIIPilot
1 July 2006, 12:12 AM
great review and great watch.....

topher
1 July 2006, 01:30 AM
A beautiful watch and nice review. Really enjoyed all the shots.

mike
1 July 2006, 03:51 AM
I just noticed in the part about the 24 hr. bezel insert. I'm not sure a Red/ Black insert will work on the 16750,unless they make a special one for the 1675/16750.

The 1675/16750 have an I.D. of 30.2 and an O.D. of 27.75mm
The 16700/16760/16710 have an I.D. 30.7 and an O.D. of 37.65mm.

The Red/Black made it's introduction on the latter model.

colemanitis
1 July 2006, 04:01 AM
I just noticed in the part about the 24 hr. bezel insert. I'm not sure a Red/ Black insert will work on the 16750,unless they make a special one for the 1675/16750.

The 1675/16750 have an I.D. of 30.2 and an O.D. of 27.75mm
The 16700/16760/16710 have an I.D. 30.7 and an O.D. of 37.65mm.

The Red/Black made it's introduction on the latter model.
Thanks for the info Mike! This would explain why I can't find a black/red bezel for my GMT. I'll remove mention of this insert from the review.

colemanitis
1 July 2006, 06:20 AM
Try this: Place 7 links on the '12' side and only 5 links on the '6' side. With this new arrangement, the clasp will centralise prefectly when you flick your wrist around.
JJ, I swung by my AD on the way home and had them adjust the bracelet. They did what you said, 7 links at 12:00 and 5 links at 6:00. I also had them tighten it a notch at the clasp. It fits like a charm now, the watch is no longer trying to crawl to the other side of my wrist. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Rockrolex
1 July 2006, 06:33 AM
Thanks for that great review of my favorite watch, Jeff. I agree with you. It is a supurb timepiece and multifunctional as well as wearable justabout everywhere. You are spot on about its accuracy. Mine gains about the same amount as yours, if not less.

Hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

JJ Irani
1 July 2006, 01:33 PM
JJ, I swung by my AD on the way home and had them adjust the bracelet. They did what you said, 7 links at 12:00 and 5 links at 6:00. I also had them tighten it a notch at the clasp. It fits like a charm now, the watch is no longer trying to crawl to the other side of my wrist. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Well done, Jeff. :thumbsup: Now you will also notice a difference in the wearer comfort with this new (and correct) arrangement! :agree:

mailman
1 July 2006, 07:30 PM
I can't stop looking at your pics Jeff, especially the first one. :thumbsup: That watch is beautiful :cheers:

Goodwatch
2 July 2006, 07:54 AM
Beautiful and loving review. You may use Brasso or a special paste for cell phone screens to polish the crystal. Or even tooth paste. The ability to remain within COSC specs becomes even more noteworthy if you realize that it is only the bare movement, stripped from even the date function that undergoes the tests. Yes, for the world traveler this has to be one of the most useful watches. The 100 meter waterproof sign is the most pessimistic value. I’ve seen testaments of other Rolexes that kept waterproof beyond trice their given depth rate, the crystal so much compressed that it almost touched the hands. If you realize this, Rolex becomes more than a mere jet-set accessory. It’s not a wimpy watch. It’s the watch I want to give to my daughter as she turns 18. It’ll last her a lifetime. No need for batteries either.

colemanitis
2 July 2006, 10:16 AM
The 100 meter waterproof sign is the most pessimistic value. I’ve seen testaments of other Rolexes that kept waterproof beyond trice their given depth rate, the crystal so much compressed that it almost touched the hands.
That's amazing stuff! :OMG: :OMG: :OMG: :OMG: :OMG:

padi56
2 July 2006, 06:44 PM
Excellent review Jeff stunning pictures

mike
2 July 2006, 11:58 PM
The 100 meter waterproof sign is the most pessimistic value. I’ve seen testaments of other Rolexes that kept waterproof beyond trice their given depth rate, the crystal so much compressed that it almost touched the hands.

Indeed, Rolex tends to be very conservative in it's WR ratings. I'm aware of one individual that had his YM tested to 300m with no problems.

JJ Irani
3 July 2006, 04:44 AM
Indeed, Rolex tends to be very conservative in it's WR ratings. I'm aware of one individual that had his YM tested to 300m with no problems.

:thinking: :thinking: Sorry, Mike, but why would a YM with a TRIPLOCK crown have any problems at 300 m?

colemanitis
3 July 2006, 11:53 AM
I added a few new pics under the '24 Hour Bezel' section.

mike
3 July 2006, 06:23 PM
:thinking: :thinking: Sorry, Mike, but why would a YM with a TRIPLOCK crown have any problems at 300 m?

That was exactly his question as the YM is rated by Rolex to only 100m. The conclusion was that Rolex simply wanted a distinction between it's dive watches and others.

JJ Irani
4 July 2006, 04:57 AM
That was exactly his question as the YM is rated by Rolex to only 100m. The conclusion was that Rolex simply wanted a distinction between it's dive watches and others.

Fair enough, Mike. Thanks! :thumbsup:

Goodwatch
4 July 2006, 05:08 AM
Fair enough, Mike. Thanks! :thumbsup:

You know you've got quality on your wrist JJ! It's of little consequence of course, the difference between a 100 and 300 meters in a non dive watch. But still. They’ve got that part of the equation right! :thumbsup:

JJ Irani
4 July 2006, 05:09 AM
You know you've got quality on your wrist JJ! It's of little consequence of course, the difference between a 100 and 300 meters in a non dive watch. But still. They’ve got that part of the equation right! :thumbsup:

I always have quality on my wrist....I wear a Rolex don't I? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

mailman
4 July 2006, 09:04 AM
I always have quality on my wrist....I wear a Rolex don't I? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Even though there's other quality brands also JJ, yep :thumbsup:

colemanitis
7 July 2006, 09:41 AM
I added a new pic (NATO band) under the 'Band' section.

clogz
25 July 2006, 08:15 PM
http://clogz.pelaaja.info/24-hour-clocks.jpg

:agree:

Lol-x
13 September 2006, 04:39 PM
Cool review, but I would have liked you to have given it a score out of 10 overall and for different aspects of the timepiece. Maybe you could edit your review by inserting these into the end.

I had a 16750 but gave it to my brother who just told me from Malaysia that after 3 years it is running perfectly.

amanda
15 September 2006, 10:52 AM
Thanks colemantis... I want one, I think I have decided that the 16750 is for me, I like the wg surrounds on the markers... its magnificent... and the black bezel gives the watch a total new look, however, the pepsi is my fav!

colemanitis
15 September 2006, 12:16 PM
The Pepsi's my fav too! Wait a minute, what day is it? That's right, it's Thursday - black is my favorite! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Lol-x
15 September 2006, 05:10 PM
I had the pepsi, but I later decided to get a black bezel. Rolex was helpful.

My score out of 10 would be:
Case 9.5 very comfortable, but small crown difficult to grab.
Dial 9.9 about as good as they get, a classic!
Bracelet 8 works perfect just doesn't have SEL or the new clasp.
Functionality 10 GMT is brilliant and the movement is incredibly reliable and accurate
Overall 9/10

Here is a photo of my 16750 before I gave it away:dummy:

http://smoothride.com.au/uploadedFiles/1158297893667-4370.jpg

JJ Irani
15 September 2006, 05:16 PM
And here is a pic of the one I trade away a long, long time ago.....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/JJIrani/GMTpalm.jpg

mailman
15 September 2006, 06:54 PM
I had the pepsi, but I later decided to get a black bezel. Rolex was helpful.

My score out of 10 would be:
Case 9.5 very comfortable, but small crown difficult to grab.
Dial 9.9 about as good as they get, a classic!
Bracelet 8 works perfect just doesn't have SEL or the new clasp.
Functionality 10 GMT is brilliant and the movement is incredibly reliable and accurate
Overall 9/10

Here is a photo of my 16750 before I gave it away:dummy:

http://smoothride.com.au/uploadedFiles/1158297893667-4370.jpg

That's a beauty. The dial is in great condition :thumbsup:

Lol-x
16 September 2006, 09:20 PM
The dial on my 16750 was excellent, as you can see the markers were really maxi, especially the 6 & 9 battons.

It seems that if one goes to Rolex now for a service, that the will not replace a matt dial 16750 with a matt dial, but will be replaced with a gloss dial and the white gold surrounds on the hour markers. At least this is not the case with the 1675 GMT which Rolex replaces with a matt luminova maxi dial, should a replacement dial be required.

mike
18 September 2006, 10:33 AM
The dial on my 16750 was excellent, as you can see the markers were really maxi, especially the 6 & 9 battons.

It seems that if one goes to Rolex now for a service, that the will not replace a matt dial 16750 with a matt dial, but will be replaced with a gloss dial and the white gold surrounds on the hour markers. At least this is not the case with the 1675 GMT which Rolex replaces with a matt luminova maxi dial, should a replacement dial be required.

That's true. Rolex will replace with the latest dial made for the reference.
For the 16750 that's gloss with WG surrounds. The 1675 never had WGs.

The same would happen with a 5513--WGs, as that was the latest dial.

mike
18 September 2006, 10:34 AM
Buy the way that is a stunning dial on that 16750!!!!!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Lol-x
12 November 2006, 07:58 PM
Thanks Mike, it was probably a lucky photo, where it seemed to get a really good angle on the dial.
Although I don't have that watch anymore, I do have the comfort of knowing that it hasn't missed a beat in the last 3 years of my brother wearing it, since I gave it to him, and I have the photo as a consolation.:thumbsup:
Cheers & 73

dff3
13 November 2006, 08:43 AM
Great review Jeff,

I still think that the red/blue bezel GMT is one of the seriously beautiful rolex watches. HAd one for many years. Probably the one Rolex I still miss.

Many years of great enjoyment!

mrbieler
19 November 2006, 03:34 PM
Nice review and some nice photos.

I will be wearing my 16750 when I come back from the Thanksgiving holiday. Right now, it's going to live on a 4 ring zulu unless something else comes up.

Flashy1941
13 October 2007, 04:54 AM
Great review, Wonderfull pictures(The best Ive ever seen).I only joined this site today,I am glad I did. Regards to all members over the pond. Flashy1941,Winchester,UK.

colemanitis
14 October 2007, 08:01 AM
Great review, Wonderfull pictures(The best Ive ever seen).I only joined this site today,I am glad I did. Regards to all members over the pond. Flashy1941,Winchester,UK.

Glad you enjoyed it!

LL1979
15 October 2007, 03:40 AM
wonderfull review and what a mint condition on the watch wear it in good health

Boopie
31 October 2007, 12:31 AM
Your review was nice to read.

I'm sure this has been posted before (and if so, please show me where), but what are the advantages/disadvantages of buying a black face SS Sub versus the black face GMT that you show? That is, if you had to get only one SS Rolex, which one of the two would it be? This is for a man who doesn't travel all over the world (so doesn't need the GMT feature), isn't a diver, and doesn't fly airplanes.

colemanitis
1 November 2007, 05:18 AM
Since you're not a pilot, or a diver, then I guess it comes down to personal preference. There's obvious differences between the two watches; movement, 4 hands vs. 3, bezel, crown size, water depth, etc. Both watches tend to feel different on the wrist, so I'd encourage you to visit your closest AD and try them on. Personally, I prefer the black sub over the black GMT. I love the multi-colored GMTs though. I sold the GMT 16750 several months ago and today I own a Submariner, so the Sub wins in my book. Hope that helps.

Rockrolex
1 November 2007, 05:35 AM
And my preferences run just the opposite of Jeff's. I love the all black GMT-II with red 4th hand (I am not enamoured of the new model with the green 4th hand). I think the red hand adds just the right amount of zip or bling (whatever). I don't like the Pepsi or Red/Black GMT bezels.

And the Sub is too plain vanilla for my taste. But that's why you've got to head on down to an AD and try on both. One of them will smile at you more. That's the one for you.

Good luck on the hunt. Let us know what you finally choose. :cheers::cheers:

leopardprey
4 November 2007, 01:21 PM
Old post, but still some of the best photos of a GMT II I have seen!!! Makes me want to go out and buy a old style all black bezel GMT II !!!

When comparing between the old style GMT II and the SS Sub, there are a couple other things to consider. The GMT II has a slightly thinner profile, and sits a little flatter on the wrist. Also the twin lock crown on the GMT II is less of a profile, there are some that have complained about the larger triple clock crown of the Sub eating into their wrist. (personally I like both the twinlock and triple lock, and I like the robustness of the triplelock crown better). The bracelet clasp on the GMT II is also thinner/shorter. Personally I find the GMT IIs and Explorer IIs to fit better on my wrist than the Sub. I like the thinner profile and lighter weight. And I use the GMT function all the time, since I work and travel overseas.

If you wanted a great Rolex Combination: Get the old style GMT II for everyday wear, and then get a Sub No-Date for diving, swimming, exercise. Though I used to swim and workout everyday with my GMT II or Explorer II with no issues at all!!

GHV
16 November 2007, 11:47 AM
Great review. I got my GMT II this year so I could keep track of the time wherever my son (Navy Ensign) is sent. I travel frequently to Spain, but really enjoy more knowing what the time is wherever my son is than knowing the time back home. Other than that personal twist, I have the Pepsi bezel and love it. It's attractive and classy without being flashy. As for depth rating, not being a diver, it works just great for occasional swims. Again, great review; great watch!!!

Perdu
23 November 2007, 05:56 AM
Looks great on that Bond strap. I once owned one and I kick myself that I sold it.

T5AUS
6 December 2007, 08:48 AM
Could someone clarify please, are the bezels on these GMT 16750's interchangeable then?, is it just a question (in my case) of getting a black bezel insert, removing the Pepsi insert and clipping the black one in? Are there other colours available. :thumbsup:

frostie
6 December 2007, 09:54 AM
Nice review i enjoyed reading it :thumbsup:

johan
6 December 2007, 02:28 PM
good job!!!

applebook
8 December 2007, 02:13 PM
Excellent review.

The 16750 is also my favorite "regular" watch, my dream watch being the sword hands military Submariner.

I've had my GMT for 3 years now and still love it. Before this watch, I had the current GMT II and before that, many Rolex and other watches, including Subs, IWC, Blancpain, etc.

I still love the GMT. It keeps time to within a second per day as well :thumbsup:

http://members.shaw.ca/GMTMASTER/GMT02.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/GMTMASTER/GMT01.jpg

applebook
8 December 2007, 02:16 PM
Could someone clarify please, are the bezels on these GMT 16750's interchangeable then?

Yes, there are also aftermarket bezels available.

My one and only bezel swapping at a Rolex dealer was a bad experience because the jeweler would not allow me to keep both my bezels --they confiscated my property! :dummy:

Teofilo
9 December 2007, 06:05 AM
Nice review and photos from Jeff.......now walking on the Panerai side of the street.

frostie
9 December 2007, 06:23 AM
Excellent review.

The 16750 is also my favorite "regular" watch, my dream watch being the sword hands military Submariner.

I've had my GMT for 3 years now and still love it. Before this watch, I had the current GMT II and before that, many Rolex and other watches, including Subs, IWC, Blancpain, etc.

I still love the GMT. It keeps time to within a second per day as well :thumbsup:

http://members.shaw.ca/GMTMASTER/GMT02.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/GMTMASTER/GMT01.jpg

That's a really good looking gmt with strap :thumbsup:

colemanitis
9 December 2007, 07:54 AM
Could someone clarify please, are the bezels on these GMT 16750's interchangeable then?, is it just a question (in my case) of getting a black bezel insert, removing the Pepsi insert and clipping the black one in? Are there other colours available. :thumbsup:

Yes, you can swap your Pepsi bezel for a genuine black one, just as I did with my 16750. There are not other OEM inserts for the 16750. The black/red combo wasn't available when this watch was produced.

colemanitis
9 December 2007, 07:55 AM
9,000 views and 56 replies to this review. I'm glad so many people have found it useful. :cheers:

Teofilo
9 December 2007, 08:57 AM
I just noticed in the part about the 24 hr. bezel insert. I'm not sure a Red/ Black insert will work on the 16750,unless they make a special one for the 1675/16750.

The 1675/16750 have an I.D. of 30.2 and an O.D. of 27.75mm
The 16700/16760/16710 have an I.D. 30.7 and an O.D. of 37.65mm.

The Red/Black made it's introduction on the latter model.

This forum really is the best :thumbsup:
When I got my GMT II with a Pepsi bezel, I also got a black/red and black bezel as spares from the AD.
The black/red was a 16760 and the black was a 16700. This has always bothered me in case they didnt fit properly.
There was a post from Tools a few months ago saying that he thought they would both fit my 16710, but its nice to see it confirmed in precise measurements.
Im now going to give myself an early Christmas present and swap to black/red. Might even get a nice black leather strap to go with it (been reading too many Panerai threads recently !):cheers:

T5AUS
9 December 2007, 11:33 AM
Yes, you can swap your Pepsi bezel for a genuine black one, just as I did with my 16750. There are not other OEM inserts for the 16750. The black/red combo wasn't available when this watch was produced.


Thanks Jeff, I should have read your great review properly the first time, as you do already mention the bezels :dummy:

Another worrying point though, if I send mine in for a service do they automatically update the dial and bezel regardless or can I keep my originals. :thumbsup::cheers:

sea-dweller
25 January 2008, 08:54 AM
I had one of these (vintage of around 1985) and always liked the lightweight and acrylic crystal. It's much lighter than my 16710.

T5AUS
27 January 2008, 09:01 AM
Yes, there are also aftermarket bezels available.

My one and only bezel swapping at a Rolex dealer was a bad experience because the jeweler would not allow me to keep both my bezels --they confiscated my property! :dummy:

Thanks applebook, missed this post earlier. :thumbsup:
Yes, I have heard all sorts of stories regarding taking vintage watches to Rolex service centres and them coming back with replaced dials, hands, bezels etc, a bit of a worry. :thumbsdow

:cheers:

sea-dweller
2 March 2008, 11:55 AM
Beautiful 16750 !

T5AUS
2 March 2008, 03:23 PM
Thanks applebook, missed this post earlier. :thumbsup:
Yes, I have heard all sorts of stories regarding taking vintage watches to Rolex service centres and them coming back with replaced dials, hands, bezels etc, a bit of a worry. :thumbsdow

:cheers:

As a follow up to this, I was in Sydney last week working and thought I would take my gmt in to the Rolex service centre there for a service since it gains about a couple of minutes a week. I dropped it in on Monday for a quote telling the charming young lass in reception that I only wanted the movement cleaned and regulated and did not want the hands, dial or bezel replacing. I went back on Tuesday to see what they thought and was given a written quote which came to a staggering 1,314.50 Au.!!
They had totally ignored my request about me wanting to keep the original hands, dial and bezel and insisted that if I went ahead with the service it would only be done if the hands and bezel were replaced but I did have the option to keep the original dial although they didn't recommend it, which would save me $341.00 Au. and thus bring the price down to a mere $973.00 for the service. They insisted that the hands had cracked lume and that it could drop out during service, perhaps it could, but I was happy to take that risk. To me the bezel is fine, I can replace that myself when I locate a good original one of the period.
Needless to say, I declined to leave it for a service and was glad to be on my way with my baby back on my wrist.
(but wait, there is more)
The following morning in my hotel I noticed my watch hands were out of sync.!, (see pic) when the hour hand was on the hour, the minute hand was down at the half hour mark, not on the hour, ahhhh, what had happened.
I took it straight back to the service centre to see what they thought might have happened, all very odd. The service guy who actually did the quote said via the receptionist that it was nothing to do with him, all they do when doing a quote is to take the back off just to see the movement. I could not believe it, it was just too much of a coincidence, my watch had been working perfectly up to this point then straight after the quote it's wrong, very strange. I asked to speak with the technician, I needed to hear it from his mouth, and that's exactly what he told me, it could not of happened here.
By this time, we were all getting a bit excited so it was decided to send for the boss!! A nice enough lad, he explained to me exactly as the other guy had, no way it could have happened here, they don't touch the hands when quoting, just take the back off to examine it, you must have bumped it. So that was that, what could I say. He said as a show of good faith he would sort the hands out for me for $50.00 which I agreed to, accepting that I must have bumped it, cant possibly imagine what I did to cause them to jump out of sync. guess it WAS just a coincidence, it certainly left an odd feeling in my gut for my first ever visit to a Rolex service department though. I finally received my watch back the next day, hands all back as they should be and it's still going fine. :banghead:

Terry Newton
2 March 2008, 03:56 PM
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with a RSC. It is a beautiful watch and one can tell it is your pride and joy and you take good care of it.

Here's hoping for many more good years with a fine timepiece :thumbsup:.

Terry Newton

Fatso
2 March 2008, 06:19 PM
Never ever never replace that dial, they'll switch it for a gloss version with white gold surround markers.

T5AUS
2 March 2008, 08:07 PM
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with a RSC. It is a beautiful watch and one can tell it is your pride and joy and you take good care of it.

Here's hoping for many more good years with a fine timepiece :thumbsup:.

Terry Newton

Thanks Terry:thumbsup:

Never ever never replace that dial, they'll switch it for a gloss version with white gold surround markers.

Too right Paul, never ever.
I just wonder how many unsuspecting vintage watch owners there are that only wanted the movement serviced but ended up with their prize piece being ruined with a dial and hands update, its a worry.:banghead:

GMTJOHNNY
26 March 2008, 01:54 PM
Love it and will never part with it. SS and red/blue bez is great. Great time keeper and virtually impossible to damage. :thumbsup:

timackerman
26 March 2008, 11:54 PM
Never ever never replace that dial, they'll switch it for a gloss version with white gold surround markers.

x2 :thumbsup:

That is far too nice to replace

goldenlace
27 March 2008, 08:31 PM
excellent watch review! very interesting and I learned a lot from it 8)

Bobareno
2 April 2008, 08:56 AM
Great review, thanks. Love the 16750!

colemanitis
2 April 2008, 10:59 AM
Almost two years after writing this review people are still finding it useful. That's awesome!!!

etp095
2 April 2008, 11:24 AM
Almost two years after writing this review people are still finding it useful. That's awesome!!!

do you still have the watch?

colemanitis
2 April 2008, 11:28 AM
do you still have the watch?

Nope. Sometimes I wish I did. I have a new Pepsi now. :thumbsup:

Scarface
20 April 2008, 10:35 PM
I have a new Pepsi now. :thumbsup:

Me too Jeff, can't wait to get it in my hands tomorrow :smokin:

I enjoyed a lot your great review :cheers:

tommy_uk77
22 April 2008, 02:36 PM
Nope. Sometimes I wish I did. I have a new Pepsi now. :thumbsup:

can share where you get from ?

jasper
27 April 2008, 02:37 AM
I *just* acquired the same watch you have pictured here. This thread was useul to me today because I needed info on the bezel insert sizing.

TRF still rocks.

weiandy
30 November 2009, 12:02 AM
My 16750 seems to be under powered after my servicing. It seems to be able to run for 6-7 hours and it stops. Can the experts here advise on this? Is there a need to wind this watch? Clockwise?

Help.

jasper
30 November 2009, 10:21 AM
My 16750 seems to be under powered after my servicing. It seems to be able to run for 6-7 hours and it stops. Can the experts here advise on this? Is there a need to wind this watch? Clockwise?

Help.

Sounds like it needs a wind. It was almost certainly run down during or after the servicing and the auto wind system will absolutely not wind the watch completely...as you have learned, just wearing the watch will keep it wound up +/- about six hours.

Whenever I wear one of my other watches I let the GMT run down in my secret drawer.. When I put it the GMT on again the first thing I do give it 30-some winds, clockwise. That's the first detent after unscrewing the crown. Then I set the date to the day before today, that's the second detent, then I set the time by first passing through midnight to flip the date to the actual date, then setting the clock to the correct time. That would be the third detent.

So yes, wind the watch.

HDHNTER
11 December 2009, 09:50 AM
Starting to really want a 16750 here, great post! :thumbsup: :cheers:

groovejosh
15 December 2009, 01:36 AM
Freakin Gorgeous

timmovitz
13 January 2010, 06:01 PM
Great review, Wonderfull pictures

timmovitz
13 January 2010, 06:02 PM
What model you have now?

crockey
7 July 2010, 04:49 AM
Great review! I would have kept the original dial and hands though.

Vasilis13
2 May 2011, 03:12 AM
Does anyone know what the numbers of 585, 580, and 78360 on the back of the Rolex stand for ?