Orchi believes these are Rolex Ref 16750 GMT Master Dial Variants..+pics.

[Orchi]

Err...to ALL TRF GMT buddies...please spare
Orchi the favour to post your collection of
16750 GMT watches n Dials in here...for comparisons
n further discussions that you might have on
the subject matter...

Thanks for your participation...

Best regards
Orchi.

Orchi believes these here are examples of the earliest 1st Generation...
Rolex 16750 GMT Master...
With your consideration & permissions...
Orchi shall call it the Earliest 1st Generation MK.1 Matte Dial variant.

These pictures of 16750 GMT Master MK.1 Dials...are exemplary examples which are excerpt from the VRF Dial Archive...

NOTE:

1. Typically these 16750 MK.1 Matte Dial has the Slimmest & Tallest Rolex Coronet...

2. The Coronet is Vertically aligned with "L" of "ROLEX" Plot...n "E" of "O.P E RPETUAL" Plots...

3. The SCOC Plots have the fonts "A" "H" n "C" Vertically aligned as well.

4. This MK.1 Matte Dial Variant is NORMALLY found on 16750 GMT Watch Cases...
from about 6.2mil or 1980...to about 8.1mil or 8.2mil series.


Posted by Buddy Jas...from 8.17mil SN...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-8.17mil%20SN,matte%20dial-Jas.jpg

Posted by Buddy Faz...from 6mil SN...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-6mil%20matte-Faz.jpg

Posted by Buddy Tim...from 7.6mil SN...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-7.6mil%20matte-Tim.jpg

Posted by Buddy Christian...from 6mil SN...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/16750-6milmatte-christian.jpg

Posted by Buddy Ashley Bowler...from 6.27mil case with Punched Paper...1980 or so.

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-6.27milSN,ca.84,matte%20dial-AshleyBowler.JPG


Orchi believes these here are good examples of the 2nd Generation...
Rolex 16750 GMT Master...
With your consideration & permissions...
Orchi shall call it the 2nd Generation MK.2 Matte Dial variant.

NOTE:

1. Typically these 16750 MK.2 Matte Dial has Tall Rolex Coronet also BUT
the base of the Crown is broader...NOT as Slim as the MK.1 Coronet.

2. The Coronet is Vertically aligned with "L" in "ROLEX" Plot...BUT they
are NOT Vertically aligned with "E" at lower "O.P E RPETUAL" Plots.

3. The SCOC Plots do NOT have the Vertically aligned fonts "A" "H" n "C"...

4. The MK.2 Matte Dial variant is RARELY found on 16750 GMT Watch Cases...
from about 8.2mil to about 8.4 in 1983 or 1984 or so...by the end of 16750 GMT Master with Matte Dial production...

5. Interesting to note also that this particular type of Dial has very similar Dial features....
to the ones that were also featured in some the 16750's predecessor 1675 GMT Master watches...seen elsewhere in the VRF n VRM...


Orchi's Bare MK.2 Matte Dial...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/MatteMk2.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC04985.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC04986.jpg


This picture of a 16750 GMT Master is courtesy of Buddy Ben of NBTimes Hong Kong...
which comes with Rolex Punched Paper 8.35mil series 16750 GMT Master...
(under negotiation)...
illustrating the 2nd Generation MK.2 Matte Dial variant...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/IMG_3805.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/IMG_3805.jpg

This is a similar MK.2 Dial...(albeit featured to early 6mil watch case)
Picture posted by Buddy Haagen...excerpt from the VRF Dial Archive...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-6mil%20matte-Haagen-1.jpg

This is a similar MK.2 Dial...(albeit featured to early 6.3mil watch case)
Picture posted by Buddy Mike950...excerpt from the VRF Dial Archive...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-6.3mil%20matte-mike950.jpg

This is a similar MK.2 Dial...
Picture posted by Buddy VintageTime...excerpt from the VRF Dial Archive...

http://dials.vrfimages.com/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-GMTdial-vintagetime.JPG


Orchi believes this here is a RARE example of the earliest GLOSS Dial with WG Surround Tritium markers...for Rolex 16750 GMT Master...

With your consideration & permissions...
Orchi shall call these Earliest GLOSS Dial as MK.3 GLOSS Dial variant.

These pictures are taken from Orchi's little collection of the...
Rolex 16750 GMT Master BARE MK.3 GLOSS Dials...

NOTE:

1. Typically this VERY RARE 16750 MK.3 GLOSS Dial has the FATTER Rolex Coronet...with shorter Crown Arches...

2. The EARLIEST GLOSS DIAL for 16750 GMT Master has Plots "OYSTER PERPETUAL"...
with NO "DATE" plot on Dial...(RARE FEATURE)

3. The SCOC Plots have the fonts "G" "E" "O" & "R" "E" "D" Vertically aligned.

4. The SCOC n "SWISS-T<25" Plots are in prominent Serif fonts.

NOTE: This MK.3 GLOSS Dial Variant is believed to be VERY RARELY found on 16750 GMT Watch Cases...
from about 8.3mil..to about 8.4mil series cases or in 1983...ONLY.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05108.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05115.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05111.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05112.jpg


These here is the same GLOSS Dial Variant for EARLY 16750 GMT Master with...
WG Surround Tritium Markers...

NOTE: With Obvious signs of Early Flaws of ROLEX Dial printing whereby...
ALL WHITE Painted Plots & Indexes show the obvious "Overflowing" or "Bleeding" flaws...on the entire Dial...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05119.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05117.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05118.jpg


These here...Orchi believes to be the MK.4 GLOSS Dial for 16750 GMT Master...
with WG Surround Tritium markers...

NOTE:

1. The Coronet is slightly Taller with wider & longer Crown Arches than MK.3 GLOSS Dial variant...

2. The "DATE" Plot is featured on Dial ie. "OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE"...

3. The SCOC Plots have the fonts "G" "E" "O" & "R" "E" "D" Vertically NOT aligned...as compared with MK.3 GLOSS Dial variant.

4. The SCOC n "SWISS-T<25" Plots have less prominent Serif fonts.

5. This MK.4 GLOSS Dial variant are normally found on Rolex 16750 GMT Master...
from about 8.5mil or in 1984...to END 9mil Series cases or in 1986 or so...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05102.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05104.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05105.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05106.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05107.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05111-1.jpg


FINALLY but not last...this here is believed to be the MK.5 GLOSS Dial variant...
for Rolex 16750 GMT Master with WG Surround Tritium markers...

NOTE:

1. The Coronet is similar to MK.4 GLOSS Dial...

2. The SCOC n "SWISS-T<25" Plots has NO Serif fonts.

3. This MK.5 GLOSS Dial variant is normally found on 16750 GMT Master watches...
from END 9 mil series...to or about "R" Series cases...or so....
by the end of 16750 GMT Master production by ROLEX...in 1988.


http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05102-1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05103-1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05106-1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05104-1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05107-1.jpg


THANKS FOR WATCHING...

[stnmikita]

I love a good Orchi posting! Great pics.

[T5AUS]

Here is mine Mr Orchi, it's a 1984 serial # 884***. The hands are obviously later and I am not sure if the box is quite the right period, I purchased it separately :thumbsup:
I stumbled on to your web blog the other day, very interesting :cheers::thumbsup:

[Orchi]

Here is mine Mr Orchi, it's a 1984 serial # 884***. The hands are obviously later and I am not sure if the box is quite the right period, I purchased it separately :thumbsup:
I stumbled on to your web blog the other day, very interesting :cheers::thumbsup:Err buddy Phil...thanks for your participation...:thumbsup:

Could the S/Nos. of your 16750 be 8,84x,xxx...or 8,66x,xxx...?

Anyway...that Dial is what Orchi believes to be 16750 MK.2 Matte Dial variant...
which could be possibly featured around the Case Series 8.4mil or in 1984...:bye:

[T5AUS]

Err buddy Phil...thanks for your participation...:thumbsup:

Could the S/Nos. of your 16750 be 8,84x,xxx...or 8,66x,xxx...?

Anyway...that Dial is what Orchi believes to be 16750 MK.2 Matte Dial variant...
which could be possibly featured around the Case Series 8.4mil or in 1984...:bye:

Umm, Err oops, it's 866 Orchi :thinking: :dummy::thumbsup:

[acce1999]

Wonderful with all this information! Thanks! Keep it coming!

Best,

A

[GMTJOHNNY]

Awesome! I now know I have a MK4 Gloss Dial. Great bit of information! Thanks!!:cheers:

[mike]

Supurb information my friend.:thumbsup:

Another one I moved to the reference section so as not to get lost in the scheme of things.

Keep em coming!!!:clap::clap:

[kyle L]

Good Detective work Mr. Orchi!

[vertigo]

could Great Orchi give me the exact dimensions of a 16750 GMT ???
thanks for all these informations!

[Orchi]

could Great Orchi give me the exact dimensions of a 16750 GMT ???
thanks for all these informations!Err buddy Vertigo...welcome to this World renown Rolex watch forum...:thumbsup:

As much as Orchi can recall...the 16750 watch case measures...

1. Overall Height/Thickness from Top surface of crystal to Bottom of Backcase cover is...13mm.

2. Overall Width including Bezel & Crown from left to right is...42mm.

3. Overall Length from case lug to case lug is...47mm.

Hopes the above helps...:bye:

[vertigo]

that really helps me ! Thanks Wise Orchi !!!
i never been able to find them! and because i never saw one for real i was afraid it would have been too large!
now i m sure it is the right one for me ASAP!
Thanks again for improving us about thos fantastic watches ;)

[roach13]

Err...to ALL TRF GMT buddies...please spare
Orchi the favour to post your collection of
16750 GMT watches n Dials in here...for comparisons
n further discussions that you might have on
the subject matter...

Thanks for your participation...

Best regards
Orchi.

Orchi believes these here are examples of the earliest 1st Generation...
Rolex 16750 GMT Master...
With your consideration & permissions...
Orchi shall call it the Earliest 1st Generation MK.1 Matte Dial variant.

These pictures of 16750 GMT Master MK.1 Dials...are exemplary examples which are excerpt from the VRF Dial Archive...

NOTE:

1. Typically these 16750 MK.1 Matte Dial has the Slimmest & Tallest Rolex Coronet...

2. The Coronet is Vertically aligned with "L" of "ROLEX" Plot...n "E" of "O.P E RPETUAL" Plots...

3. The SCOC Plots have the fonts "A" "H" n "C" Vertically aligned as well.

4. This MK.1 Matte Dial Variant is NORMALLY found on 16750 GMT Watch Cases...
from about 6.2mil or 1980...to about 8.1mil or 8.2mil series.


Posted by Buddy Jas...from 8.17mil SN...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-8.17mil%20SN,matte%20dial-Jas.jpg

Posted by Buddy Faz...from 6mil SN...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-6mil%20matte-Faz.jpg

Posted by Buddy Tim...from 7.6mil SN...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-7.6mil%20matte-Tim.jpg

Posted by Buddy Christian...from 6mil SN...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/16750-6milmatte-christian.jpg

Posted by Buddy Ashley Bowler...from 6.27mil case with Punched Paper...1980 or so.

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-6.27milSN,ca.84,matte%20dial-AshleyBowler.JPG


Orchi believes these here are good examples of the 2nd Generation...
Rolex 16750 GMT Master...
With your consideration & permissions...
Orchi shall call it the 2nd Generation MK.2 Matte Dial variant.

NOTE:

1. Typically these 16750 MK.2 Matte Dial has Tall Rolex Coronet also BUT
the base of the Crown is broader...NOT as Slim as the MK.1 Coronet.

2. The Coronet is Vertically aligned with "L" in "ROLEX" Plot...BUT they
are NOT Vertically aligned with "E" at lower "O.P E RPETUAL" Plots.

3. The SCOC Plots do NOT have the Vertically aligned fonts "A" "H" n "C"...

4. The MK.2 Matte Dial variant is RARELY found on 16750 GMT Watch Cases...
from about 8.2mil to about 8.4 in 1983 or 1984 or so...by the end of 16750 GMT Master with Matte Dial production...

5. Interesting to note also that this particular type of Dial has very similar Dial features....
to the ones that were also featured in some the 16750's predecessor 1675 GMT Master watches...seen elsewhere in the VRF n VRM...


Orchi's Bare MK.2 Matte Dial...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/MatteMk2.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC04985.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC04986.jpg


This picture of a 16750 GMT Master is courtesy of Buddy Ben of NBTimes Hong Kong...
which comes with Rolex Punched Paper 8.35mil series 16750 GMT Master...
(under negotiation)...
illustrating the 2nd Generation MK.2 Matte Dial variant...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/IMG_3805.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/IMG_3805.jpg

This is a similar MK.2 Dial...(albeit featured to early 6mil watch case)
Picture posted by Buddy Haagen...excerpt from the VRF Dial Archive...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-6mil%20matte-Haagen-1.jpg

This is a similar MK.2 Dial...(albeit featured to early 6.3mil watch case)
Picture posted by Buddy Mike950...excerpt from the VRF Dial Archive...

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-6.3mil%20matte-mike950.jpg

This is a similar MK.2 Dial...
Picture posted by Buddy VintageTime...excerpt from the VRF Dial Archive...

http://dials.vrfimages.com/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-GMTdial-vintagetime.JPG


Orchi believes this here is a RARE example of the earliest GLOSS Dial with WG Surround Tritium markers...for Rolex 16750 GMT Master...

With your consideration & permissions...
Orchi shall call these Earliest GLOSS Dial as MK.3 GLOSS Dial variant.

These pictures are taken from Orchi's little collection of the...
Rolex 16750 GMT Master BARE MK.3 GLOSS Dials...

NOTE:

1. Typically this VERY RARE 16750 MK.3 GLOSS Dial has the FATTER Rolex Coronet...with shorter Crown Arches...

2. The EARLIEST GLOSS DIAL for 16750 GMT Master has Plots "OYSTER PERPETUAL"...
with NO "DATE" plot on Dial...(RARE FEATURE)

3. The SCOC Plots have the fonts "G" "E" "O" & "R" "E" "D" Vertically aligned.

4. The SCOC n "SWISS-T<25" Plots are in prominent Serif fonts.

NOTE: This MK.3 GLOSS Dial Variant is believed to be VERY RARELY found on 16750 GMT Watch Cases...
from about 8.3mil..to about 8.4mil series cases or in 1983...ONLY.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05108.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05115.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05111.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05112.jpg


These here is the same GLOSS Dial Variant for EARLY 16750 GMT Master with...
WG Surround Tritium Markers...

NOTE: With Obvious signs of Early Flaws of ROLEX Dial printing whereby...
ALL WHITE Painted Plots & Indexes show the obvious "Overflowing" or "Bleeding" flaws...on the entire Dial...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05119.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05117.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05118.jpg


These here...Orchi believes to be the MK.4 GLOSS Dial for 16750 GMT Master...
with WG Surround Tritium markers...

NOTE:

1. The Coronet is slightly Taller with wider & longer Crown Arches than MK.3 GLOSS Dial variant...

2. The "DATE" Plot is featured on Dial ie. "OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE"...

3. The SCOC Plots have the fonts "G" "E" "O" & "R" "E" "D" Vertically NOT aligned...as compared with MK.3 GLOSS Dial variant.

4. The SCOC n "SWISS-T<25" Plots have less prominent Serif fonts.

5. This MK.4 GLOSS Dial variant are normally found on Rolex 16750 GMT Master...
from about 8.5mil or in 1984...to END 9mil Series cases or in 1986 or so...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05102.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05104.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05105.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05106.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05107.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05111-1.jpg


FINALLY but not last...this here is believed to be the MK.5 GLOSS Dial variant...
for Rolex 16750 GMT Master with WG Surround Tritium markers...

NOTE:

1. The Coronet is similar to MK.4 GLOSS Dial...

2. The SCOC n "SWISS-T<25" Plots has NO Serif fonts.

3. This MK.5 GLOSS Dial variant is normally found on 16750 GMT Master watches...
from END 9 mil series...to or about "R" Series cases...or so....
by the end of 16750 GMT Master production by ROLEX...in 1988.


http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05102-1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05103-1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05106-1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05104-1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05107-1.jpg


THANKS FOR WATCHING...

I think you're right

[Orchi]

Err...thanks buddies for watching...:thumbsup:

THIS HERE IS AN IMPORTANT NOTE:

These 2 pictures of 16750 GMT Master watches...
are showing the watches to be fitted with AFTERMarket Generic Bezel...

Sorry that Orchi missed mentioning it earlier...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/16750-6milmatte-christian.jpg

http://www.vrfimages.com/dials/dials/GMTs/16750/16750-6.27milSN,ca.84,matte%20dial-AshleyBowler.JPG

[Stimp]

Hey all,

I'm the definition of Newbie :dummy:, this is a post cut from the newbie section. I got given a watch from my father which was bought by my grandfather in 1981. I have the box, receipt, hole punch guarentee... everything in pretty good condition. The sticker on the side of the box says "167570/B". If there is anything else you need to know I am holding the box with all papers now... I'll try and get some better pics :thinking:

Cheers :cheers:

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P430000550.jpg

[Stimp]

Here are some more pics -

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060381-1.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060386.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060389.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060382.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060390.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060392.jpg

[Stimp]

Orchi/All, if you could give me any more info on my watch above I would appreciate it.

:cheers:
Stimp

[vertigo]

> Stimp:
Nice one! you should replace the glass, quite scratched... but really a nice piece (now expert should tell what they think, i m a newbie too)
>Orchi:
i know it's a sacrilege but remember i'm a newbie in rolex world:
did great Orchi ever see a 16750 without cyclop?
i mean does anyone try to have the "readibility" of a seadweller with the beauty of the classic GMT?
(please don't burn me down... i am only very curious to see one day this type of customized 16750... thanks for your advice, i know cyclop's lovers will hit the roof but can't see why a 16750 couldn't be without cyclop: you can always replace the cyclop's glass after if you want the original back...or not?)
thanks again for all those precious infos, Orchi ;)

[Stimp]

> Stimp:
Nice one! you should replace the glass, quite scratched... but really a nice piece (now expert should tell what they think, i m a newbie too)
>Orchi:
i know it's a sacrilege but remember i'm a newbie in rolex world:
did great Orchi ever see a 16750 without cyclop?
i mean does anyone try to have the "readibility" of a seadweller with the beauty of the classic GMT?
(please don't burn me down... i am only very curious to see one day this type of customized 16750... thanks for your advice, i know cyclop's lovers will hit the roof but can't see why a 16750 couldn't be without cyclop: you can always replace the cyclop's glass after if you want the original back...or not?)
thanks again for all those precious infos, Orchi ;)

Yeah, I plan on sending it off for a service soon... hasn't had one in at least 6 years.

Cheers for the feedback!

[vertigo]

Stimp you are a lucky guy!
i hope i ll find one so good looking someday (when i could :agree: )
and after being serviced it will be perfect (but be careful they don't change your dial for a newer one...you should ask experts here how you have to proceed: if asking before to let your original dial or something else...i read of some people with bad surprises on this forum ;) )
anyway, just enjoy your 16750 :dude:

[Orchi]

Here are some more pics -

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060381-1.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060386.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060389.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060382.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060390.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/oneoff1/P5060392.jpgErr buddy Ben...welcome to this World's best Rolex vintage watch forum...:thumbsup:

Thanks for posting those nice pictures...
However...judging from those pictures that you have just posted in here...
Orchi inclines to think...that watch of yours is probably MORE being
a Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master...instead...
which happens to be the predecessor of the Rolex Ref 16750 GMT Master...
that is being discussed in this thread...

IF you would take a closer look at the Hands arrangement of your GMT Master watch...
you would notice that the 24hr Red GMT Hand is positioned at the lowest...

Now this would mean that your watch could like have the Cal.1570 movement...
which is synonymous with Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master...instead.

You would also need to double check with the other related thread about
Rolex REf 1675 GMT Master that...would show the positions to the Hands arrangement
for the Ref 1675 GMT watches...

Also Orchi thinks the Serial Nos. 5.74mil would correspond to those found for Rolex Ref 1675 GMT Master...

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=74976

Right now your watch is seen to be fitted
with what looks to be the MK.1 Matte Dial variant...
of the Rolex Ref 16750 GMT Master...

Now that is strange...:thinking::thinking::thinking:

[Stimp]

Awesome, thanks for the feedback :thumbsup:... I did post in the other thread (with no pics, I'll add them now). I didn't wear my watch today, so I'll have a look tonight re the positions of the hands etc. Also, if you work out why I may have the MK.1 Matte Dial variant it would be good to know... but as I don't know the watches history from 1981 - 2003 anything could have happened. :thinking:

Thanks again
Stimp.

[kyle L]

:worship: Will you take me as a disciple Master Orchi? :worship:
:rofl:

[Lamone]

Great info!
Awesome macro shots!

[greekbum]

I bought this 16750 brand new and have worn it almost everyday since.
83xxxx.I have bought sold and collected over 50 transitional 16750 and have found original examples with wg dials as low as 832x and have found original examples of matte dial as high as 861xxx.The wg dial came out of an 83xxxx serial box and papers example.

[weiandy]

I was wondering if my 16750 is original. Please help me take a look. Thanks.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=97939

[keygold]

wonderful photos

[Orchi]

I bought this 16750 brand new and have worn it almost everyday since.
83xxxx.I have bought sold and collected over 50 transitional 16750 and have found original examples with wg dials as low as 832x and have found original examples of matte dial as high as 861xxx.The wg dial came out of an 83xxxx serial box and papers example.
http://www.rolexforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84990&stc=1&d=1252164155
http://www.rolexforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84991&stc=1&d=1252164155
Err buddy Nikos...that is the 2nd variant of 16750 WG Glossy Dial which has NO "DATE" plot...

The 2nd variant(lets call it Mk. 3.5) with NO "DATE" WG Glossy Dial is produced by Rolex Dial maker...Lemrich.

By comparing it with this Mk.3 WG Glossy Dial without "DATE" plot...
one would see the slight variation of the fonts n alignment of SCOC plots...
n "SWISS-T<25" plots under the 6 o'clock marker...(Hyphen "-" is right sided.)

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/orchipalar/DSC05108.jpg

The 16750 GMT watches having these NO "DATE" plot on Dial...are RARE.

[Orchi]

Err buddies...here's an example of 16750 with Mk.2 Matte Dial variant...

Case series 7.19x,xxx...(case appears to be without being machine re-polished)
comes with brand new 78360 n 580 End links...

[sea-dweller]

Nice photos of some great classic GMT's, my grail.

[Orchi]

Err buddies...not sure what is happening with Photobucket...
but lately...Orchi too gets the dreaded message..."Bandwidth Exceeded"...
whenever Photobucket pictures are being blocked...
n not being uploaded...

IF you are using Firefox browser...
you could try the following...

So here it is...
what Orchi has discovered to be the quick FIX to the problem...
that Orchi wishes to share with the VRF Buddies here...
or at the least with those that are using the Mozilla FIREFOX...

At the FireFox browser...
TYPE...........................: About:config
PRESS Enter.

When prompted, CLICK............: I would be careful, I promise
Next Window would appear.

In Field "Filter", TYPE........: network.http.sendRefererHeader
FIND that Field at the bottom listing.
RIGHT Click the Field, CLICK...: Modify

On Next POP-UP, TYPE...........: 0 (instead of "2" as shown)
CLICK..........................: OK

CLOSE(X) the Window.

NOTE: For those that has plenty of pics being hosted in PhotoBucket for FREE...
or whenever your FIREFOX Browser fails to upload any pictures...
IF you wish to...you could undertake the above measure...
so as to prevent the same problem that Orchi had recently...
even though...you may have not experienced it...just yet.

IMPORTANT: TRY NOT TO BE TOO CURIOUS TO ATTEMPT MAKING OTHER CHANGES
IN THOSE OTHER FIELDS found in the FIREFOX system...

VOILA!!! ALL the pictures that were seemed to be "WIPE OUT" from the postings...
in the relevant Forum...would be uploaded n "RE-APPEAR" again.

NOT sure how that problem came about...
but the above quick FIX has worked for Orchi... :bye:

[rustedmetal]

My new arrival!!
6.7mil serial
I was thinking of wearing the hell out of it for a while before sending it off to RSC.

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Hello Orchi ,
These is a picture of a 9927xxx serial , does this mean that this would be an aftermarket dial as it does not have the wg rim around the hour markers ? The hands seem to match the age of the watch , but not the dial . I'm I right to assume that ?

[Orchi]

Hello Orchi ,
These is a picture of a 9927xxx serial , does this mean that this would be an aftermarket dial as it does not have the wg rim around the hour markers ? The hands seem to match the age of the watch , but not the dial . I'm I right to assume that ?http://www.rolexforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116081&stc=1&d=1266307824Err buddy Tristan...looking at that slightly blur picture...
Orchi could see that the Dial n Hands setup belong to the older 1675 GMT...
NOT 16750 GMT(QuickSet)...

What's happening? Since you said the S/Nos. is 9.9mil...?:thinking:

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Err buddy Tristan...looking at that slightly blur picture...
Orchi could see that the Dial n Hands setup belong to the older 1675 GMT...
NOT 16750 GMT(QuickSet)...

What's happening? Since you said the S/Nos. is 9.9mil...?:thinking:

My sincere apologies , my fault entirely : let me correct the following : serial is 2997xxx .

[Orchi]

My sincere apologies , my fault entirely : let me correct the following : serial is 2997xxx .Err buddy Tristan...then again...it's 1675 GMT...
not a 16750 GMT...:bye:

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Err buddy Tristan...then again...it's 1675 GMT...
not a 16750 GMT...:bye:

Dear Orchi , again my apologies . I did send you a PM as well

[crhfish]

Here is mine. I had no idea the dials had this much variety. Mine is a 7.1mm serial number. It looks like the second variant to me.

[joesephcho]

OMG...i'm a super noob and I can't believe there are so many variations. Orchi, in true sincerity, your knowledge of Rolex to the minute detail is amazing.

[model7el]

great info