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The 5167R looks amazing in person. I know in the past you have stated pieces on a leather strap arent for you so your choices are somewhat limited. Focus on the 5712 and then see what comes out in the next year or two. I would not be in any rush to add a 3rd piece. The CE diver is awesome and can cover your casual and sport needs and the 5712 is very versatile and can also be dressed up
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