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spogehead · 28 February 2009, 10:16 PM

Posted this a few months back on a different forum, may be of interest
to some here......

I was always set on getting a GMT but when I went to the AD
they had the Sub LV in stock so I checked it out at the same
time. Did nothing for me at all I slipped it on my wrist and
slipped it straight off again and told the sales lady to pop
it back on display. Is it me or is that green bezel just plain weird?

Anyway back to the GMT, the dial is very easy to read
and the AR coating on cyclops really make it very easy
to see the date with a quick glance. The maxi dial has
bigger markers over the std Sub and SD this also
to my eyes improves the dial greatly.
Lume is ok nothing special.

The case seems quite a bit bigger at the lugs
compared to both the old style GMT and the Sub
the case is listed as 40mm but wears bigger due
to the beefier case, again a big bonus for me as I
do like a big watch and the others felt lighter and
smaller on the wrist. This weighs in at 146g with
two links out and sits at around 12mm high, feels
taller though. Don't know why?

The Bezel, not much to say here, it's a work
of art

You can see the beefier lugs clearly on this
pic, some think it looks too big v's the 20mm bracelet.......

Some comparison shots against other watches

The setting off the watch is very simple once you
have read the manual, previous owners of GMT's
wouldn't need to read it I would guess.
Timekeeping so far is around -1 per day so well within spec.

One of the most impressive features of this watch
for me is the bracelet and clasp, I have read all
about, and handled plenty of Subs with the old
'tin' style, but this one is absolutely top notch.
When you clip it in, it really sounds and feels
solid, there is plenty of adjustment without having
to shift springbars about, a really neat design IMO
As for the polished links I love the look of them, I
really do but, I know they will probably look like crap
in two weeks time but I'm used to the polished look
having the Evo which is full polish so hopefully it
won't upset me too much..........air will mark
this bracelet I'm convinced of it

Marked it getting the sticker off!!!

The fit and finish is very good as you would expect,
but I wouldn't say any better than Omega or Breilting, I
think all of these watches are of very similar
quality and all first rate. The watch is very
comfortable on the wrist and the easy adjustment
makes it all the better for when you get a bit
sweaty, I've had to let the bracelet in/out
many times.

All in all I am very impressed with this watch
and It's a 100% keeper (we've all said
that before) the only negative comment I have
is that the bracelet squeaks a little

Psmith · 28 February 2009, 11:10 PM

A great review and pictures, thanks for posting

The GMT is next on my hit list...

And it wouldn't be a Rolex without a little squeak or rattle

Cheers

Texsubmariner · 2 March 2009, 04:33 AM

Great pics and review. I admit that it took me a while to appreciate the GMTc, but now it's a keeper for sure. Enjoy your GMT!

yannis · 2 March 2009, 04:42 AM

Stunning review and pictures!!! Thanks for sharing man!

Ogie · 2 March 2009, 04:53 AM

Great review!!

buz-lh · 2 March 2009, 08:34 AM

Excellent review. The comparison shots really show that it does appear larger than 40mm.

DINGER · 4 March 2009, 12:26 AM

Nice review, just bought one myself, it really is a thing of beauty

Rebel · 4 March 2009, 02:06 AM

Great comparison shots. Thanks for providing these pics!

aelvin · 4 March 2009, 07:47 AM

nice shots! love the black and white pic!!

nbs · 4 March 2009, 12:36 PM

Love the shots and glad you chosen this watch! I enjoy wearing it every minute too and it will be a keeper for me too.

fmalloy · 5 March 2009, 01:15 PM

I like reviews that intersperse the text with the photos...makes you want to read all of it. I guess sometimes we're like kids - need pictures to hold our attention.

JJ Irani · 5 March 2009, 04:58 PM

Great stuff......that first picture is a cracker!!

I've seen this watch in person and think it's superbly engineered and beautifully finshed!!

postiff · 5 March 2009, 05:26 PM

Nice shots and great read. I have to agree about the Clasp it is truly amazing. I use the easylink adjustment daily I never realized how much my wrist size changed from morning to night. I personally enjoy the Bezel and the 24 rotations over 3 ceramic ball bearings. Not a big fan of the irritating clicking…

Spaniard · 5 March 2009, 08:14 PM

nice!!! my next target!!! lol

spogehead · 6 March 2009, 07:25 AM

Thanks for the nice comments guys, my first Rolex and the first time I have ever felt compelled to write so positively about a watch!

PaulaHammond · 27 July 2009, 11:09 AM

26July2009
Hi Rolex Fans ;oD
Paula here in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. Great review. I am shopping for my third Rolex. There is nothing better. The GMT-Master II is my favorite!!! How about putting some "Super Lube" synthetic oil with PTFE on the clasp. I tried it, silky smooth and no more squeaks! Nice feel!!! The squeaks mean the metal in the links is wearing away and will eventually make it looser. Maybe every 6 months? It will keep the clasp links nice and tight to reduce rattle. Probably ought to keep the oil out of the bezel, at least when the watch is new. But I don't see how it could hurt it. The existing lube in the bezel is good enough when new. If the oil is in the bearing, first, then perspiration won't flow in and dry, leaving corrosive salts. What do you think?
Paula

PaulaHammond · 27 July 2009, 11:40 AM

26July2009
Hi Rolex Fans ;oD
Paula here in Phoenix, AZ. I am shopping for a GMT-Master II Steel & Gold #116713LN. Unfortunately, all 5 of the ones I have looked at new in the Jewelers have had a warped Easy Link, making the bracelet come out of the clasp at an angle when the Easy Link is snapped closed. It should be straight. I have another one ordered straight from the Rolex factory, and I hope the Easy Link is straight. It's a factory defect, and shouldn't be there at $10,350. SR. Read my Post about this in the Rolex Watch Reviews. I may just have to live with it. What do you think about this? It is only on the Steel & Gold model.
Paula

carlhaluss · 6 November 2009, 05:16 PM

New to this forum, and to Rolex. I am doing a lot of research, and absolutely love the GMT IIc. I was even more impressed, when I learned that it has the new hairspring (can't remember the name), along with the Milgauss and Sea Dweller. Pardon me, if I don't get these names quite right, but give it a bit of time.
Anyway, to my point after all the rambling: Your shots of this watch are absolutely breathtaking! The one with the closeup of the Cyclops date window, I almost had to touch my screen to make sure it wasn't real! And that ceramic dial is unbelievably gorgeous, and the polished middle links in the bracelet really accentuate the shiny bezel as well. Thanks again for the wonderful show! I am going to a Rolex AD this weekend, for my first serious look at Rolexes. I hope he has this model.
Cheers,
Carl

Lol-x · 6 November 2009, 08:26 PM

Great photos, thanks for sharing

ersnyder · 7 November 2009, 07:04 AM

Cool watch, great pics and teriffic review; wear it in good health!

I had a squeaky band on my new GV and, following TRF comments, I took a shower and sudsed up the band real well. As promised, no more squeaks.

I think this is a better fix than any kind of oil based lubricant no matter how fine the lube. Oil does tend to attract and hold dust/dirt causing abrasion.

Gster · 7 November 2009, 08:30 AM

I did the sam thing as you!
Fancied a Sb, tried on a Green and then bought a GMT IIc and LOVE him!!
Great photos...enjoy your watch!
I will think of yours as I look adoringly at mine!

hng · 8 November 2009, 02:56 AM

gmt ii c owner here as well, still can't stop adoring this masterpiece...

toptime · 8 November 2009, 06:08 AM

Great reviews, that's going to be my next watch.

Lion · 8 November 2009, 08:07 AM

Great review on a great watch. I currently own a Pepsi but have my eyes on the newer model as well!!!

Dylan Wade · 8 November 2009, 03:07 PM

An updated Classic fthat Rolex got right and will hold its own for many years to come.

What a Watch!

Jason101 · 28 November 2009, 02:07 PM

Great watch. It is a must have for me.

Dr.B · 28 November 2009, 02:32 PM

Great photos....love that GMT

sexner · 18 December 2009, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spogehead

Posted this a few months back on a different forum, may be of interest
to some here......

I was always set on getting a GMT but when I went to the AD
they had the Sub LV in stock so I checked it out at the same
time. Did nothing for me at all I slipped it on my wrist and
slipped it straight off again and told the sales lady to pop
it back on display. Is it me or is that green bezel just plain weird?

Anyway back to the GMT, the dial is very easy to read
and the AR coating on cyclops really make it very easy
to see the date with a quick glance. The maxi dial has
bigger markers over the std Sub and SD this also
to my eyes improves the dial greatly.
Lume is ok nothing special.

The case seems quite a bit bigger at the lugs
compared to both the old style GMT and the Sub
the case is listed as 40mm but wears bigger due
to the beefier case, again a big bonus for me as I
do like a big watch and the others felt lighter and
smaller on the wrist. This weighs in at 146g with
two links out and sits at around 12mm high, feels
taller though. Don't know why?

The Bezel, not much to say here, it's a work
of art

You can see the beefier lugs clearly on this
pic, some think it looks too big v's the 20mm bracelet.......

Some comparison shots against other watches

The setting off the watch is very simple once you
have read the manual, previous owners of GMT's
wouldn't need to read it I would guess.
Timekeeping so far is around -1 per day so well within spec.

One of the most impressive features of this watch
for me is the bracelet and clasp, I have read all
about, and handled plenty of Subs with the old
'tin' style, but this one is absolutely top notch.
When you clip it in, it really sounds and feels
solid, there is plenty of adjustment without having
to shift springbars about, a really neat design IMO
As for the polished links I love the look of them, I
really do but, I know they will probably look like crap
in two weeks time but I'm used to the polished look
having the Evo which is full polish so hopefully it
won't upset me too much..........air will mark
this bracelet I'm convinced of it

Marked it getting the sticker off!!!

The fit and finish is very good as you would expect,
but I wouldn't say any better than Omega or Breilting, I
think all of these watches are of very similar
quality and all first rate. The watch is very
comfortable on the wrist and the easy adjustment
makes it all the better for when you get a bit
sweaty, I've had to let the bracelet in/out
many times.

All in all I am very impressed with this watch
and It's a 100% keeper (we've all said
that before) the only negative comment I have
is that the bracelet squeaks a little

Excellent photos!

The 116710LN is without a doubt the best looking timepiece that Rolex has ever slung guts into.

groovejosh · 18 December 2009, 05:51 AM

agreed

Juggernaut · 19 December 2009, 01:24 AM

great review and nice pics!
I know I'm in the minority here, but I just can't get past the polished links. It was one of the main reasons I sold my YM a well. I have a smaller wrist and the Sub LV it my choice because green happens to be my favorite color. I just closed a deal on a pre-ceramic "old style" GMT M II.

Enjoy the IIc. It's awesome nonetheless. I will miss the rehaut engraving and the 3186 movement that I enjoyed in my Exp II.

28 February 2009, 11:10 PM	#2
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	A great review and pictures, thanks for posting The GMT is next on my hit list... And it wouldn't be a Rolex without a little squeak or rattle Cheers __________________

2 March 2009, 04:33 AM	#3
Texsubmariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Khanh Location: Texas Watch: SSGMTc Posts: 1,227	Great pics and review. I admit that it took me a while to appreciate the GMTc, but now it's a keeper for sure. Enjoy your GMT! __________________ Sea Dweller M series SS GMT IIc M series Omega SMP Electric Blue Dial Wife's SS WG MOP Ladies DJ Z series

2 March 2009, 04:42 AM	#4
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	Stunning review and pictures!!! Thanks for sharing man! __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

2 March 2009, 08:34 AM	#6
buz-lh "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Buz Location: Atlanta Watch: Rolex Tudor Pam Posts: 5,108	Excellent review. The comparison shots really show that it does appear larger than 40mm. __________________ Buz The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live. Peter Diamandis

4 March 2009, 02:06 AM	#8
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,073	Great comparison shots. Thanks for providing these pics! __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

28 February 2009, 10:16 PM	#1
spogehead "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 339	Another GMT IIc opinion Posted this a few months back on a different forum, may be of interest to some here...... I was always set on getting a GMT but when I went to the AD they had the Sub LV in stock so I checked it out at the same time. Did nothing for me at all I slipped it on my wrist and slipped it straight off again and told the sales lady to pop it back on display. Is it me or is that green bezel just plain weird? Anyway back to the GMT, the dial is very easy to read and the AR coating on cyclops really make it very easy to see the date with a quick glance. The maxi dial has bigger markers over the std Sub and SD this also to my eyes improves the dial greatly. Lume is ok nothing special. The case seems quite a bit bigger at the lugs compared to both the old style GMT and the Sub the case is listed as 40mm but wears bigger due to the beefier case, again a big bonus for me as I do like a big watch and the others felt lighter and smaller on the wrist. This weighs in at 146g with two links out and sits at around 12mm high, feels taller though. Don't know why? The Bezel, not much to say here, it's a work of art You can see the beefier lugs clearly on this pic, some think it looks too big v's the 20mm bracelet....... Some comparison shots against other watches The setting off the watch is very simple once you have read the manual, previous owners of GMT's wouldn't need to read it I would guess. Timekeeping so far is around -1 per day so well within spec. One of the most impressive features of this watch for me is the bracelet and clasp, I have read all about, and handled plenty of Subs with the old 'tin' style, but this one is absolutely top notch. When you clip it in, it really sounds and feels solid, there is plenty of adjustment without having to shift springbars about, a really neat design IMO As for the polished links I love the look of them, I really do but, I know they will probably look like crap in two weeks time but I'm used to the polished look having the Evo which is full polish so hopefully it won't upset me too much..........air will mark this bracelet I'm convinced of it Marked it getting the sticker off!!! The fit and finish is very good as you would expect, but I wouldn't say any better than Omega or Breilting, I think all of these watches are of very similar quality and all first rate. The watch is very comfortable on the wrist and the easy adjustment makes it all the better for when you get a bit sweaty, I've had to let the bracelet in/out many times. All in all I am very impressed with this watch and It's a 100% keeper (we've all said that before) the only negative comment I have is that the bracelet squeaks a little __________________ Cheers Ryan

2 March 2009, 04:53 AM	#5
Ogie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Watch: Rolex SS Sub 16610 Posts: 110	Great review!!

4 March 2009, 12:26 AM	#7
DINGER "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 94	Nice review, just bought one myself, it really is a thing of beauty

4 March 2009, 07:47 AM	#9
aelvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Aelvin Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 330	nice shots! love the black and white pic!!

4 March 2009, 12:36 PM	#10
nbs Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: David Location: Singapore/Sydney Watch: SS GMT Master IIc Posts: 35	Love the shots and glad you chosen this watch! I enjoy wearing it every minute too and it will be a keeper for me too.

5 March 2009, 01:15 PM	#11
fmalloy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 171	Great review, and great pics! I like reviews that intersperse the text with the photos...makes you want to read all of it. I guess sometimes we're like kids - need pictures to hold our attention.

5 March 2009, 04:58 PM	#12
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Great stuff......that first picture is a cracker!! I've seen this watch in person and think it's superbly engineered and beautifully finshed!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

5 March 2009, 05:26 PM	#13
postiff Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Danny Location: Ca Watch: 116710LN Posts: 936	Nice shots and great read. I have to agree about the Clasp it is truly amazing. I use the easylink adjustment daily I never realized how much my wrist size changed from morning to night. I personally enjoy the Bezel and the 24 rotations over 3 ceramic ball bearings. Not a big fan of the irritating clicking…

5 March 2009, 08:14 PM	#14
Spaniard Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Singapore Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 64	nice!!! my next target!!! lol

6 March 2009, 07:25 AM	#15
spogehead "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 339	Thanks for the nice comments guys, my first Rolex and the first time I have ever felt compelled to write so positively about a watch! __________________ Cheers Ryan

27 July 2009, 11:09 AM	#16
PaulaHammond "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 8	26July2009 Hi Rolex Fans ;oD Paula here in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. Great review. I am shopping for my third Rolex. There is nothing better. The GMT-Master II is my favorite!!! How about putting some "Super Lube" synthetic oil with PTFE on the clasp. I tried it, silky smooth and no more squeaks! Nice feel!!! The squeaks mean the metal in the links is wearing away and will eventually make it looser. Maybe every 6 months? It will keep the clasp links nice and tight to reduce rattle. Probably ought to keep the oil out of the bezel, at least when the watch is new. But I don't see how it could hurt it. The existing lube in the bezel is good enough when new. If the oil is in the bearing, first, then perspiration won't flow in and dry, leaving corrosive salts. What do you think? Paula

27 July 2009, 11:40 AM	#17
PaulaHammond "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 8	26July2009 Hi Rolex Fans ;oD Paula here in Phoenix, AZ. I am shopping for a GMT-Master II Steel & Gold #116713LN. Unfortunately, all 5 of the ones I have looked at new in the Jewelers have had a warped Easy Link, making the bracelet come out of the clasp at an angle when the Easy Link is snapped closed. It should be straight. I have another one ordered straight from the Rolex factory, and I hope the Easy Link is straight. It's a factory defect, and shouldn't be there at $10,350. SR. Read my Post about this in the Rolex Watch Reviews. I may just have to live with it. What do you think about this? It is only on the Steel & Gold model. Paula

6 November 2009, 05:16 PM	#18
carlhaluss "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Carl Location: Vancouver, Canada Watch: Rolex Explorer 1 Posts: 1,780	New to this forum, and to Rolex. I am doing a lot of research, and absolutely love the GMT IIc. I was even more impressed, when I learned that it has the new hairspring (can't remember the name), along with the Milgauss and Sea Dweller. Pardon me, if I don't get these names quite right, but give it a bit of time. Anyway, to my point after all the rambling: Your shots of this watch are absolutely breathtaking! The one with the closeup of the Cyclops date window, I almost had to touch my screen to make sure it wasn't real! And that ceramic dial is unbelievably gorgeous, and the polished middle links in the bracelet really accentuate the shiny bezel as well. Thanks again for the wonderful show! I am going to a Rolex AD this weekend, for my first serious look at Rolexes. I hope he has this model. Cheers, Carl

6 November 2009, 08:26 PM	#19
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,270	Great photos, thanks for sharing __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

7 November 2009, 07:04 AM	#20
ersnyder 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Eric Location: Long Beach CA USA Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 4,102	Cool watch, great pics and teriffic review; wear it in good health! I had a squeaky band on my new GV and, following TRF comments, I took a shower and sudsed up the band real well. As promised, no more squeaks. I think this is a better fix than any kind of oil based lubricant no matter how fine the lube. Oil does tend to attract and hold dust/dirt causing abrasion.

7 November 2009, 08:30 AM	#21
Gster "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Grant Location: UK Watch: Rolex GMT IIC Posts: 42	I did the sam thing as you! Fancied a Sb, tried on a Green and then bought a GMT IIc and LOVE him!! Great photos...enjoy your watch! I will think of yours as I look adoringly at mine!

8 November 2009, 02:56 AM	#22
hng "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: HaNgat Location: Jakarta Watch: Sports Rolex Posts: 648	gmt ii c owner here as well, still can't stop adoring this masterpiece... __________________ Cartier Tank / Suunto Stinger / 16014 / 16610LV / PAM 233 / 116520 / 14060M / 16710 / Omega Constellation

8 November 2009, 06:08 AM	#23
toptime "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: united states Posts: 44	Great reviews, that's going to be my next watch.

8 November 2009, 08:07 AM	#24
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Great review on a great watch. I currently own a Pepsi but have my eyes on the newer model as well!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

8 November 2009, 03:07 PM	#25
Dylan Wade Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BC, Canada Watch: EXP II Posts: 545	An updated Classic fthat Rolex got right and will hold its own for many years to come. What a Watch!

28 November 2009, 02:07 PM	#26
Jason101 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New York City Posts: 23	Great watch. It is a must have for me.

28 November 2009, 02:32 PM	#27
Dr.B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Fernando Location: North Carolina Watch: SS White Daytona Posts: 1,944	Great photos....love that GMT

18 December 2009, 05:51 AM	#29
groovejosh Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Josh Location: Nashville Watch: Rolex GMT-Master 2 Posts: 41	agreed

19 December 2009, 01:24 AM	#30
Juggernaut "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 901	great review and nice pics! I know I'm in the minority here, but I just can't get past the polished links. It was one of the main reasons I sold my YM a well. I have a smaller wrist and the Sub LV it my choice because green happens to be my favorite color. I just closed a deal on a pre-ceramic "old style" GMT M II. Enjoy the IIc. It's awesome nonetheless. I will miss the rehaut engraving and the 3186 movement that I enjoyed in my Exp II.

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