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Old 16 July 2010, 09:48 PM   #31
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I bought my 16710 in March and when i looked at the watch (originaly bought in Dec 2004,F series) it had a black bezel, and had never been worn. I said i wanted a Pepsi out of choice and asked them to change the bezel,they did but kept the black one as i said i would probably never use it. I found out by the little green tag that it had on it 16710 BL/RO, this meant it originaly was a Pepsi bezel model but was changed to a black one by the original buyer.
Was the watch originally sourced in the UK?
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Old 17 July 2010, 04:55 AM   #32
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papers on older GMT II's were not marked with insert colour, my K series is a case.
Seems so. The green tag of my U series just says 16710. There's a round black sticker on the outside box though.
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Old 18 July 2010, 08:02 PM   #33
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So it seems like the suffix on the GMT II models is a Rolex USA practice only. Non US models are simply 16710 with no suffix to indicate the original bezel colour.
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Old 19 July 2010, 01:57 AM   #34
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Was the watch originally sourced in the UK?
Sorry for delay in replying, yes it is a UK sourced watch as 160 on papers. The shop in Liverpool said the original buyer probably ordered it with a black bezel but when ordered through Rolex they just changed the bezel at Bexley before they sent it out to the AD,as someone said there is nothing on the watch itself to say it was originaly a Pepsi.
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Old 20 July 2010, 01:34 AM   #35
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Sorry for delay in replying, yes it is a UK sourced watch as 160 on papers. The shop in Liverpool said the original buyer probably ordered it with a black bezel but when ordered through Rolex they just changed the bezel at Bexley before they sent it out to the AD,as someone said there is nothing on the watch itself to say it was originaly a Pepsi.
That's interesting, it seems you're the first with a non-US 16710 which uses a suffix on the model number.

May I ask what is says on your warrant papers/card?
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Old 20 July 2010, 02:12 AM   #36
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only about warranty card with serial letter z letter m 2007 / 2008 should specify the color of the bezel.

Europe Asia

16710 coke
16710BLRO pepsi
16710ln black

America

16710A coke
16710B pepsi
16710N black
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Old 21 July 2010, 05:30 PM   #37
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only about warranty card with serial letter z letter m 2007 / 2008 should specify the color of the bezel.

Europe Asia

16710 coke
16710BLRO pepsi
16710ln black

America

16710A coke
16710B pepsi
16710N black
Thanks Alessandro.

That's interesting.... Seems a little inconsistent, as a number of non-US owners don't seem to have any suffix.

Anyone else willing to share their model numbers?
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Old 5 December 2010, 05:21 AM   #38
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My GMT Master II warranty/Chrono cert paper:

Style No. R16710B30B7879
Serial No. A89xxxx
Dial: Black

The green hang tag has:

A89xxxx
16710BLRO
78790

Pepsi with SEL's and Lug Holes
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Old 5 December 2010, 05:34 AM   #39
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My 16710 coke is a P serial number - circa 2001 and the papers say do say 16710A. However, as noted already one can easily source the other bezel inserts and have all three (coke, pepsi & black). 16710 is the watch model reference # and, regardless of the bezel insert color, that doesn't change .

Also, a great reference site for GMT owners is this one: www.gmtmasterhistory.com. I don't think I am breaking any forum rules for noting this as I recall seeing that site referenced in others posts.
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Old 6 December 2010, 11:45 AM   #40
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16710 a & b

http://www.minus4plus6.com/images/ch...rantyCards.jpg

Yes, starting with Z or M, there is an A or B on the warranty card designating the type of bezel (Photo by Champthekid).

More at http://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.htm#a

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Old 7 December 2010, 11:34 AM   #41
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papers on older GMT II's were not marked with insert colour, my K series is a case. Anyway what difference does it make the inserts are made to be interchangeable. Outside of USA no-one seems to bother - go into Rolex UK and they will give you and fit whatever colour you like and its cheap to do
That's what I did and I'm sure Rolex update it's database with the new bezel color. Personally I think RUSA is nuts differentiating this model by bezel color.
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Old 7 December 2010, 11:57 AM   #42
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http://www.minus4plus6.com/images/ch...rantyCards.jpg

Yes, starting with Z or M, there is an A or B on the warranty card designating the type of bezel (Photo by Champthekid).

More at http://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.htm#a

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Sheldon - very cool pair!

I mean why just have different bezel inserts when you can one of each watch instead. Sure saves the hassle of switching them up! The 16710 is a modern day classic without doubt.

BTW - I have enjoyed visiting your site over the years. Very well done body of work.
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Old 7 December 2010, 03:07 PM   #43
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Cool, thanks... One clarification though.. I don't own both those watches. The photo was from ChampTheKid who let me use on the site. I have one 16710A (M series). My photo's are not as good as his..

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Old 8 December 2010, 11:48 AM   #44
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My Late z serial came with new plastic warranty card and it says model 16710R
It's a pepsi with 3186 movement.
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Old 8 December 2010, 02:51 PM   #45
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Have to agree in many ways the guys across the pond get a raw deal.But Rolex USA is a separate company and seem to be a law too themselves.Just cannot understand why the American buyers put up with this dictatorship by Rolex USA.The GMT insert is meant to be changed thats why there are three options now,but Rolex USA would like you to buy a new watch just for a 35 insert.:
Just to add that Rolex Hong Kong will not change the bezel for anything but the original color either. I had a coke and they wouldn't change it......
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Old 2 March 2011, 08:04 AM   #46
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My 16710 states 'Style: R16710B30B7879'.

It's a pepsi bezel & purchased in the US in 2006.

Am I reducing resale value by changing bezel colour?
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Old 2 March 2011, 12:20 PM   #47
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So when you send in the watch for a service RUSA don't put the original bezel back on the watch then? I assume not.
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