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Old 28 March 2020, 09:38 AM   #1
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Like others have said I like the look & thought about one of these aftermarket ones for $275 they even have faded blueberries


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Old 29 March 2020, 08:01 AM   #2
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Like others have said I like the look & thought about one of these aftermarket ones for $275 they even have faded blueberries


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Old 28 March 2020, 09:45 AM   #3
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Old 28 March 2020, 10:09 AM   #4
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Old 28 March 2020, 10:48 AM   #5
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Wow put a fork in it.....fake as hell
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Old 28 March 2020, 11:07 AM   #6
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So I assume there never was a genuine blueberry insert issued
by Rolex ?

I’m asking cause I don’t know....
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Old 28 March 2020, 05:03 PM   #7
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So I assume there never was a genuine blueberry insert issued
by Rolex ?

I’m asking cause I don’t know....
AFAIK the general consensus is that there never was a GMT initially sold by Rolex with a blueberry insert mounted.

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Old 29 March 2020, 05:56 AM   #8
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Most people that have them today have paid dearly for them. As long as no one can say for sure they will try to get their money back. I am sure most people would do the same. .
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Old 29 March 2020, 06:32 AM   #9
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Some people believe their authentic, some dont. Maybe HQ believe they're real. Why the harsh comments
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Old 29 March 2020, 06:40 AM   #10
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Some people believe their authentic, some dont. Maybe HQ believe they're real. Why the harsh comments
No harsh comments here, just hate to see people being taken advantage of. If seller's won't or can't verify it's authenticity then it should be disclosed.

But like roh123 said if they bought it maybe their just trying to get their money back.

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Old 29 March 2020, 07:04 AM   #11
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No harsh comments here, just hate to see people being taken advantage of. If seller's won't or can't verify it's authenticity then it should be disclosed.

But like roh123 said if they bought it maybe their just trying to get their money back.

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I do agree with you, regarding the 'people taken advantage of'.... but some of the comments here sound like their selling fake items. Its just an insert with a "question mark on it" IMO. I am not associated with them at all and dont own a blueberry. All I am saying is, they could be on the side that believe they're authentic and selling it as any other item.

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Old 29 March 2020, 07:17 AM   #12
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I do agree with you, regarding the 'people taken advantage of'.... but some of the comments here sound like their selling fake items. Its just an insert with a "question mark on it" IMO. I am not associated with them at all and dont own a blueberry. All I am saying is, they could be on the side that believe they're authentic and selling it as any other item.

my 2 cents.
I would never accuse HQ as selling fakes, and never have. I have bought from and sold to them many times and have always had easy and above the board transactions.

All I'm saying is that they never addressed this issue when it exploded last year (if you haven't read the lengthy discussions on this, and other forums, you should), and now that they're selling GMTs w blueberry inserts again, there's still no mention of verification or authenticity.

And, while I agree that to the onlooker they're "just an insert", these happen to have...besides a "question mark on it"....a massive FIVE-FIGURE price-point. That's an awful lot of money for something that can't, nor has been, verified. So, if they think they're selling an authentic item, it would behoove them to state WHY it's authentic.

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Old 29 March 2020, 01:50 PM   #13
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I do agree with you, regarding the 'people taken advantage of'.... but some of the comments here sound like their selling fake items. Its just an insert with a "question mark on it" IMO. I am not associated with them at all and dont own a blueberry. All I am saying is, they could be on the side that believe they're authentic and selling it as any other item.

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Send HQ an email about their blueberry for sale and ask them if it is genuine- and if they say it is genuine, what makes it genuine. That should satisfy your curiosity and you can report your findings back here to all the inquiring minds that need to know.
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Old 29 March 2020, 10:13 PM   #14
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Send HQ an email about their blueberry for sale and ask them if it is genuine- and if they say it is genuine, what makes it genuine. That should satisfy your curiosity and you can report your findings back here to all the inquiring minds that need to know.
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Old 30 March 2020, 02:46 AM   #15
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Send HQ an email about their blueberry for sale and ask them if it is genuine- and if they say it is genuine, what makes it genuine. That should satisfy your curiosity and you can report your findings back here to all the inquiring minds that need to know.
No, thank you. Not interested in finding out nor do I wanna know. im not curious either.
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Old 22 April 2020, 09:31 PM   #16
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Send HQ an email about their blueberry for sale and ask them if it is genuine- and if they say it is genuine, what makes it genuine. That should satisfy your curiosity and you can report your findings back here to all the inquiring minds that need to know.

Hello Springer,
Couples of weeks already since you made the proposal to ask HQMilton about this Blueberry GMT. Any news (as it's still on sale.......)?
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Send HQ an email about their blueberry for sale and ask them if it is genuine- and if they say it is genuine, what makes it genuine. That should satisfy your curiosity and you can report your findings back here to all the inquiring minds that need to know.
Springer never said he was going to ask. Make sure to fact check, that’s how rumors get started.
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Old 16 July 2020, 05:10 AM   #18
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Some people believe their authentic, some dont. Maybe HQ believe they're real. Why the harsh comments
In my opinion, a reputable watch seller should only be selling items that they know to be authentic. With something like this, it is up to the dealer to prove authenticity, not up to the consumer to prove it isn’t. We aren’t talking about an archaeological dig that turns up something from millions of years ago. Don’t we all think that if these were ever released by Rolex there would be a record of it, or that the company could definitively confirm?
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Old 29 March 2020, 07:15 AM   #19
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Fake fuscia also, that’s funny....I would like to see how the fakes this guy is making are marked on the back....seems a little fishy
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Old 29 March 2020, 08:32 AM   #20
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That screen shot has to be from twnturbos own instagram account...
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Old 29 March 2020, 06:58 PM   #21
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That screen shot has to be from twnturbos own instagram account...
forget I said that I'm still trying to work out what Instagram is let alone how it works
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Old 29 March 2020, 09:39 PM   #22
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That screen shot has to be from twnturbos own instagram account...
I know, I tried following crownartscustoms.
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I know, I tried following crownartscustoms.
Crownartcustoms doesn’t exist on Instagram, or even as a working company anywhere, anymore.

But, why is there a post and a picture about fake parts on here, anyway? Thought that was expressly forbidden.
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Old 30 March 2020, 02:40 AM   #24
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Crownartcustoms doesn’t exist on Instagram, or even as a working company anywhere, anymore.

But, why is there a post and a picture about fake parts on here, anyway? Thought that was expressly forbidden.
They are fake in your and my opinion but to others they are real and it hasn’t been proven to be fake and or authentic, but I sure would conclude that the inserts are fake giving the 0 documentation out there as no one has been able to come forward with any definitive proof.
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Old 30 March 2020, 03:02 AM   #25
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They are fake in your and my opinion but to others they are real and it hasn’t been proven to be fake and or authentic, but I sure would conclude that the inserts are fake giving the 0 documentation out there as no one has been able to come forward with any definitive proof.
You miss my point. The ones HE (@CrownArtCustoms) was selling he says aren’t authentic. And sells them as “aftermarket”
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Old 29 March 2020, 10:49 PM   #27
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Or just let people decide on their own. The inserts aren’t more questionable today than they were 5-10 years ago.

No one knows and sellers that demand a premium will never say they think they are wrong. The whole discussion is stupid and no one discussing them would ever buy one. Creating a mob on the internet will not prove anything. The inserts are around and no one will throw them away or sell them cheap. It is what it is.
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Or just let people decide on their own. The inserts aren’t more questionable today than they were 5-10 years ago.

No one knows and sellers that demand a premium will never say they think they are wrong. The whole discussion is stupid and no one discussing them would ever buy one. Creating a mob on the internet will not prove anything. The inserts are around and no one will throw them away or sell them cheap. It is what it is.
Yea, thats pretty much my point. I do feel bad for the people that paid premiums for it back then. There are still reputable delaers that swear by them. Is it to protect their own interests? who knows... if they really know theyre fake and insist on claiming their authenticity then shame on them.
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Old 30 March 2020, 03:26 AM   #29
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Yea, thats pretty much my point. I do feel bad for the people that paid premiums for it back then. There are still reputable delaers that swear by them. Is it to protect their own interests? who knows... if they really know theyre fake and insist on claiming their authenticity then shame on them.
How would dealers know? The only one that can say is Rolex (they aren’t saying) and the person that sold the first batch out of Florida nearly 20 years ago. If that person made them or got them from Rolex or a service center somehow.
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