New Subc... Am I being to picky about small imperfection?

[FTX I]

I agree it was misrepresented. I'd return it for sure.

[slashd0t]

To be fair, it's incredibly difficult to scratch the ceramic bezel on the Sub-C.. I would return it based on the seller calling it mint... It's becoming way too common for sellers to claim "mint" hoping the buyer just accepts it once they get it..

[SemperFi]

I'd return it. That would drive me nuts.

[Onikage]

The watch doesn't fit my definition of mint because of the flattened teeth on the winding crown moreso than the tiny bezel blemish.

[wilfreb]

If you're not happy, return it, but keep in mind that you are buying pre owned.

[Wllnv19]

Scratch somewhere else I would deal with scratch on bezel...return it.

[psv]

I'd return it. A small superficial scratch on the base or bracelet is easy enough to get and more importantly fix if you want to, but a scratch/cut on the ceramic bezel?!

[Trailblazer]

Did u question that 'dust' when u saw it on pic?

If u had, and the dealer told u otherwise. I will kick his butt

[SeaDweller50]

It is not mint so return it. Mind you a lot depends on how much you paid for it.

[Pattyb69]

I would return it. I dont mind scratches on the case and bracelet, but the bezel would bother me. That isn't "mint" either. I would return it or trade it for another.

[inzite]

many folks on here call it character!

[ec51]

...so they do scratch.

[Sublover2166]

Originally Posted by johneh

False. There's no actual definition of "mint condition" since it's an idiom, but the term is typically used to described used items, otherwise you'd just call it BNIB.

Wrong. BNIB means the watch is brand new, stickers in place and never on somebody's wrist. "Mint" is hardly worn, the watch should be free of scratches or any other visible damage. I bought my Hulk BNIB from a TRF seller here.
BNIB watches haven't even been placed in an AD's display case.

[Syed117]

Return it.

That is not a small imperfection.

A watch with a scratch in the ceramic bezel should not have been called mint in the first place and I don't think any seller could have missed that.

If they are established here, I'm sure they will take care of you. One bad review can do real damage.

[psv]

Also, the problem is that some sellers use the term "mint" for a watch that has been polished and cleaned up, while other people equates mint to being LNIB.

[Sublover2166]

Was it a TRF seller here on the forum or other?

[Ruud Van Driver]

Depends how much you paid and how old it is. It would bug me, used or not.

[handsfull]

Originally Posted by DarthSimon

.....Watch was advertised in mint condition pre owned.

Originally Posted by johneh

False. There's no actual definition of "mint condition" since it's an idiom....

Webster dictionary:

adjective
adjective: mint
1.
(of an object) in pristine condition; as new.
"a pair of speakers including stands, mint, $160"
synonyms: brand new, pristine, perfect, immaculate, unblemished, undamaged, unmarked, unused, first-class, excellent
"in mint condition"

Pristine = 'original' condition (as per Webster)

Originally Posted by FTX I

I agree it was misrepresented. I'd return it for sure.

This. Or I would contact seller and negotiate a healthy discount if you and the seller are willing to accept that solution.

[SeaAndSky]

Originally Posted by andromeda160

A tad OCD? It's an extremely expensive part, and now that theres a scratch, it's more likely to fail. I'd return it.

Yup, it was advertised as mint which implies like new. If you can see visible imperfections then pass on it or get a bigger discount and live with it. I'd be a little concerned as well about the integrity of the expensive insert. I've knocked my cerachrome bezel into just about everything possible and it still looks "mint." It would take a really good whack to mark one up. In the future I'd heed Vincent's remarks.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by ec51

...so they do scratch.

Yes just like any other product hit it hard enough ceramic will scratch and shatter, myself would try and remove that very very tiny mark with a tiny drop of rubbing alcohol.

[Air Tzar]

Return/exchange ASAP. That scratch sucks and I would not accept delivery of the watch like that if it were advertised as "mint". The longer you wait the more you are keeping yourself and the seller in limbo, so set up the return today.

[lmcgbaj]

It would bother me on the bezel.

[Sunny Arizona]

Just wear it and enjoy. don't sweat little things

Originally Posted by DarthSimon

Guys,
I was just delivered a pre owned random serial Sub-C Ceramic Bezel box and card. Watch was advertised in mint condition pre owned. There is a small scratch on the cerachrome bezel at the 4 hash mark. Please take a look. Am I being to anal about this or should I swap it out? Dealer is being understanding but kinda thinks I'm being a tad ocd. Paid fair market for piece. Thoughts?
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[997.2]

Return

[nnigel46]

it would drive me crazy i would change it

[douglasf13]

I could deal with a scratch in the steel, but that bezel is one of the more expensive things to replace on the watch. You'd even be better if with a ding in the sapphire. I'd return it.

[Solo118]

Originally Posted by DarthSimon

Guys,
I was just delivered a pre owned random serial Sub-C Ceramic Bezel box and card. Watch was advertised in mint condition pre owned. There is a small scratch on the cerachrome bezel at the 4 hash mark. Please take a look. Am I being to anal about this or should I swap it out? Dealer is being understanding but kinda thinks I'm being a tad ocd. Paid fair market for piece. Thoughts?
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If the dealer allows a return, I would do so. That would bother me, and I am sure they can source another Sub for you.

[fania123]

If the dealer used the term MINT then return it cause it's not.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by westsiderkg

Ask yourself partner....

1. Its used.
2. You knew it was used.
3. How much less than new did you pay.
4. Lighten up, respectfully, assuming you saved hundreds or thousands off new for one tiny scratch.
5. If its that bothersome, get a new bezel, then come back on the forum in several months when you get a new scratch, lol.

Just bought a DSSD....took me all of 1 week to scratch the bracelet when I banged it off the table. Just saying....even if you buy brand new you'll ding it somewhere in a matter of days anyhow. Relax and enjoy, life's too short to be persnickety about every finite detail.

#5. I researched a while before buying my ceramic sub and found it extremely rare to get scratches in the bezel insert. So, I know you're kidding around, or perhaps merely laughing out loud but coming back months later to discuss a different scratch seems unlikely and irrelevant. Also there is a huge difference between a scratch you make and an apparent scratch upon delivery, especially when described as mint.

If the seller is willing, I would return it. But keep in mind this seems somewhat gray. You had every opportunity to ask if there were any dings, scratches or notable marks, as well as requesting additional photos. BUT, if they said mint, you may not neccessarily think to ask, so it is reasonable to request a return. Or find out how much it would be to replace he insert with a "mint" insert and ask the seller for the money.

Either way best of luck!

[westsiderkg]

+1, used vs mint is a catch 22.