New Subc... Am I being to picky about small imperfection?

[westsiderkg]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

#5. I researched a while before buying my ceramic sub and found it extremely rare to get scratches in the bezel insert. So, I know you're kidding around, or perhaps merely laughing out loud but coming back months later to discuss a different scratch seems unlikely and irrelevant. Also there is a huge difference between a scratch you make and an apparent scratch upon delivery, especially when described as mint.

If the seller is willing, I would return it. But keep in mind this seems somewhat gray. You had every opportunity to ask if there were any dings, scratches or notable marks, as well as requesting additional photos. BUT, if they said mint, you may not neccessarily think to ask, so it is reasonable to request a return. Or find out how much it would be to replace he insert with a "mint" insert and ask the seller for the money.

Either way best of luck!

To clarify, I meant a scratch somewhere else on the watch. Highly unlikely, as you point out, that the bezel will scratch again. Guess for me I'd just say oh well, bought it used and move on, but to each their own. Good luck either way.

[Robbyman]

Not ocd but normal to expect as described. Send it back is my view

[SaddleSC]

Originally Posted by andromeda160

A tad OCD? It's an extremely expensive part, and now that theres a scratch, it's more likely to fail. I'd return it.

Seriously? How does a small surface scratch make the ceramic bezel "more likely to fail?" IMO this issue appears purely cosmetic in nature.

Not saying I wouldn't be returning it, because the watch is certainly not mint, but you may be overstating it a bit with the "increased failure rate" argument.

[tomchicago]

hate the ceramic bezels. they have not turned out to be what Rolex promised. they are more fragile than the original aluminum ones!

[westsiderkg]

Originally Posted by tomchicago

hate the ceramic bezels. they have not turned out to be what Rolex promised. they are more fragile than the original aluminum ones!

I agree to a extent having owned both....but my ceramic DSSD bezel (thus far) is holding up much, much better than the aluminum bezel did when I bought my first Submariner 8 years ago. Just my personal experience.

[JohnFM]

'Mint' is used way to loosely by some watch sellers. I collect other things (e.g., pens, knives, cameras) and mint, in general, means pristine and without obvious flaws to the naked eye. It doesn't mean perfect since a) it's pre-owned and b) nothing in life is perfect. While the seller should have disclosed the scratch, it's up to you to ask questions up front. Best to get the details out of the way earlier rather than later.

Still, the only thing that matters at this point is whether it bothers you. While I would guess your concern over this would fade some with time, it bugged you enough to post pictures. There are many similar watches out there. Best to return and move on to the next one, asking lots of questions before buying.

[mjm800]

I can see it even in the smaller pics. It would drive me crazy and I would return it.

[ufboy73]

would absolutely expect a refund if it was described as 'mint'...

however, i would say that i would have noticed that 'dust' in the seller picture and inquired about it...

my experience is most sellers go above and beyond to make sure the watch is shown in best context - if something is visible in a picture, better ask about it

[gummy]

That would bug me...

I have never scratched a ceramic bezel...so that would stick out to me in person.

Was this a AD purchase? Or trusted seller?

If AD...I would have already returned it...

If Trusted seller - I probably would have asked the question prior to purchase - is it dust or a blemish on the bezel at the 4 minute mark?

If it is not disclosed in the listing or verbally I would always ask.

Better to appear a little bit OCD on the front end and ask questions.

I've found that the best sellers are always willing to answer questions and they generally disclose and then disclose a little more as it saves time on the back end and makes for happy customers

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by westsiderkg

I agree to a extent having owned both....but my ceramic DSSD bezel (thus far) is holding up much, much better than the aluminum bezel did when I bought my first Submariner 8 years ago. Just my personal experience.

The thing is, how many aluminum bezels could you replace for the price of one ceramic replacement? That's where I think it doesn't quite make it worth it.

[wilfreb]

Aluminum VS Cerachrom



I prefer Ceramic over aluminum always, for me there is no contest

[westsiderkg]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

The thing is, how many aluminum bezels could you replace for the price of one ceramic replacement? That's where I think it doesn't quite make it worth it.

Good point...appears a few!

[westsiderkg]

Originally Posted by wilfreb

Aluminum VS Cerachrom



I prefer Ceramic over aluminum always, for me there is no contest

Ceramic gives of a nice shine IMO as well....nice!

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by wilfreb

Aluminum VS Cerachrom



I prefer Ceramic over aluminum always, for me there is no contest

I'm not sure that's quite a fair comparison to show it vs. a Tag. Either way, in terms of looks, the 116610 is my least favorite Sub ever made, although the lugs/crown guards are the biggest offenders, but that's for another thread.

I say DarthSimon should return the scratched Sub.

[downtorock]

Definitely return--it will drive you crazy! You have the understanding of the dealer, don't let that pass.

[watchwatcher]

Yeah...that's not mint.

[superdog]

i tend to not sweat things like this.

i tend to not care.

that would bother me. i would probably keep it as its a hassle to return. but i would not be happy.

[sco]

Originally Posted by tomchicago

hate the ceramic bezels. they have not turned out to be what Rolex promised. they are more fragile than the original aluminum ones!

Any examples? Not too many people on this site have ever had a problem with their ceramic insert. If so, don't you think we'd hear about it?

[arinsd]

Return.

[Girkmonster]

Grab a black Sharpie and fill it in. I would use the extra fine tip model.

[thewatchguy93]

It would bug me

[toneafficianado]

Return it for trade or refund asap..

[DarthSimon]

Problem solved!!
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[handsfull]

Originally Posted by DarthSimon

Problem solved!!
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Darker lighting = less visible?

Or did you get a box of cigars from the seller for compensation?

[DarthSimon]

It scraped off!!! Cerachrome was fine!!

[sco]

Originally Posted by DarthSimon

It scraped off!!! Cerachrome was fine!!

Well then... Keep the watch!

[Ferdelious]

Originally Posted by DarthSimon

It scraped off!!! Cerachrome was fine!!

Glad it worked out!

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by DarthSimon

It scraped off!!! Cerachrome was fine!!

Great news! Enjoy.

[Sublover2166]

Originally Posted by DarthSimon

It scraped off!!! Cerachrome was fine!!

Oh My Gosh! All is right with the world now eh? Now carry on....

[handsfull]

Sigh