GMT 1675 Dials

[themaninblack]

What about nipple dials? They are also 1675 GMT dials.

[BaltimoreBrian]

Originally Posted by themaninblack

What about nipple dials? They are also 1675 GMT dials.

Were you able to look through the Links that SPRINGER just posted?

https://rolexvintageforum.com/viewto...fcfaee728c52a6

[themaninblack]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreBrian

Were you able to look through the Links that SPRINGER just posted?

https://rolexvintageforum.com/viewto...fcfaee728c52a6

Thanks didn't see that but fairly scant information there on this variant.

[Throttle]

Originally Posted by springer

Thanks Norm.

The GMT 1675 service tritium dial and the service luminova dial are both marked SWISS - T<25 and look identical except for the plot/hands material. There is also the service dial with super luminova material marked SWISS at the bottom. Photos of the service dial with tritium and super luminova are in my first post.

Thanks for the clarification and hard work on GMt dials, Springer

Does it also mean that Mk1 dials have puffy plots which would glow briefly like 1967 meters first 5513s ?

[Trurolexer]

Always love the radial dial

[lee fowler]

Originally Posted by Throttle

Thanks for the clarification and hard work on GMt dials, Springer

Does it also mean that Mk1 dials have puffy plots which would glow briefly like 1967 meters first 5513s ?

Not all Mk 1 dials as there are some white puffy plot dials.

[springer]

Originally Posted by lee fowler

Not all Mk 1 dials as there are some white puffy plot dials.

I would agree with this assessment'

Not all Mark I dials are "puffy" from the white-lettered font era - to include the 1967 dials - although some definitely are puffy. Additionally, based on my experience, they will glow for a short time when exposed to light.

[onshow]

Great post Springer and very informative.

Where does the early transitional dials from gilt to matte come into play that had the small GMT hand with the Matte dial?

Do you have a photo of one of those and information on that dial?

Thanks.

[rolstaff]

Great post, John !!!

Could we try to figure out the serial ranges of the different matte dials ?

As John wrote, the MK 0 dials appeared from ca. 1.4 bio - 1.6 mio
The MK I (LONG E) from ca. 1.7 mio - ??
MK II from 2.8 mio - 3.3 mio ??
MK III (RADIAL) from 3.0 mio - 4.0 mio ??
MK IV andMK V ??

[springer]

Originally Posted by rolstaff

Great post, John !!!

Could we try to figure out the serial ranges of the different matte dials ?

As John wrote, the MK 0 dials appeared from ca. 1.4 bio - 1.6 mio
The MK I (LONG E) from ca. 1.7 mio - ??
MK II from 2.8 mio - 3.3 mio ??
MK III (RADIAL) from 3.0 mio - 4.0 mio ??
MK IV andMK V ??

I would not agree with your assessment of the time frame for some of the dials. Time frames for dials can lead to endless debates and that's why previous posts that I've made have been fairly general.
Here is my take on the white-lettered dials:

Mark 0 - early watches. I have seen them as late as 1969
Mark 1 - early watches up to around 2.9 million
Mark 2 - late 2 million through 3 million range
Mark 2.5 - late 2 million through 3 million
Mark 3 - 3.9 million through 5.1 million
Mark IV - 4 million to mid 5 million range
Mark Vs - low 5 million to high 5 million (three variations)
Mark VI - last 1675 dial variation found in the high 5 million serial numbers

Mark III dials are considered one of the rarest dials and are also called the "radial dial." The radial dial overlaps in production years with the Mark III, Mark IV and Mark V.

For me, the rarest dials are the Mark 2.5, Mark VI and Mark 0.

[fizz]

Dial dating is tricky and always contentious but Springer's learned assessment is pretty sound as a reference. I can concur for e.g. that my 1971 Long E Mark 1 has a 2.85 million serial number.

[rolstaff]

Thank you, John. That helps !!!

[rolstaff]

So am I right, that this 1st one is a MK 0 dial ? Bought it some years ago. Comes with a small hand and serial is 1.6 mio.

And the 2nd one is MK 2,5 ?
Serial is 3.6 mio.

[onshow]

Rolstaff, beautiful watches.

I really like that early matte dial, small GMT hand, very rare.

[springer]

[QUOTE=rolstaff;6886963]So am I right, that this 1st one is a MK 0 dial ? Bought it some years ago. Comes with a small hand and serial is 1.6 mio.

And the 2nd one is MK 2,5 ?
Serial is 3.6 mio.



Correct - Mark 2.5 and Mark 0

[rolstaff]

Thank you, onshow and John !!!

[Jurgen Cheese]

Hi All,

It does not matter how many times I read the thread I am still confused about this watch.

Is it a service dial or a correct W1 long E ?

(thanks in advance for your assistance)

[OmegaBear]

this thread should be stickied!

[boris444]

and what about the long E , is rare or is common ?
regards.

[Amphib44]

Very interesting thread to a rookie.

Can anyone tell me anything about this dial? Original to the watch, etc.? Pictures are not the best. Sorry.

Serial # 515****

Thanks very much.

[springer]

Originally Posted by Amphib44

Very interesting thread to a rookie.

Can anyone tell me anything about this dial? Original to the watch, etc.? Pictures are not the best. Sorry.

Serial # 515****

Thanks very much.

It already was discussed in this thread that you previously posted.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=533517

[Amex4711]

great thread about the 1675 dial differences, THANK you so much John
I learn every day more and more about my 1675 gilt

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by springer

I can't answer that for you but I can explain the difference when compared to the other white dials.

On the radial dial (incorrectly typed as rail dial), if you look at the second marks, they are much longer than those found on the other dials. Additionally, there is a larger gap between the circular plots and the second marks.

Thank you, Springer! I have often been told I had a "Radial Dial" and was just not sure about the lines. To my untrained eyes, the lines all looked similar.

Your comments on the plots on the other hand were obvious, so now I understand, it is a "Radial Dial".

[daniel_pdq]

Hi John,

Being wearing my GMT for over 30 years and never knew so much. Thank you.

My s/n ~5008 and had it serviced only at RSC. Might had the dial replaced years back. Can you tell me which dial I have.

Again, many thanks for imparting your knowledge.

Daniel

[springer]

Originally Posted by daniel_pdq

Hi John,

Being wearing my GMT for over 30 years and never knew so much. Thank you.

My s/n ~5008 and had it serviced only at RSC. Might had the dial replaced years back. Can you tell me which dial I have.

Again, many thanks for imparting your knowledge.

Daniel

I believe it is a Mark V. The photo is not very sharp for my eyes!

[Sky21]

Originally Posted by daniel_pdq

Hi John,

Being wearing my GMT for over 30 years and never knew so much. Thank you.

My s/n ~5008 and had it serviced only at RSC. Might had the dial replaced years back. Can you tell me which dial I have.

Again, many thanks for imparting your knowledge.

Daniel

Hi Daniel, your picture is quite blurry as Springer stated above, but I also believe that you have a Mk 5 Beyeler dial on your GMT. It looks as if the dial is in very nice condition as well as the rest of your watch.

[Mdk911]

serial number is 1675/ 1442594

[springer]

I can't tell due to the photo. Place a nice, close-up dial photo here and keep the hands away from the coronet and writings found on the dial.

[Wiener48]

Great imfo, fantastic thread, big thank you for sharing this with us!!!

[Wiener48]

My 61 GMT 1675, what to experts say?

Made a special thread about it https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=581267