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shandy · 21 December 2009, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicko

I have to disagree, aftermarket in my book is fake when you are talking about a piece of the watch as important as a bracelet. To me, the watch should be 100% original. Would you install an aftermarket dial? Crystal? Then why would you put an aftermarket bracelet on the watch? We're not talking about a change, a NATO to rough around in, we're talking about not spending the money to put something original back on the watch. Anyway, we're talking a vintage watch and truthfully it should have a vintage bracelet as well. Only my opinion.

This is a fairly new thought phenomonen I feel as years ago when watches were used to read the time and quality was purchased for reliability rather than resale or catchet people frequently exchanged straps, put different crsytals on.
It was about getting the job done and the name on the thing did not mean so much, the name one purchased because of better reliability.

I have many vintage watches and a great many have non original crystals, it is why to collectors ones with original crystals, dials and bracelets are worth more, they are much rarer due to in part the fact that folks did not care so much about the crystal being from the same manufacturer or the bracelet being the same, the bracelet was just something to hold the watch to the wrist and the crystal was there to keep the dust out and protect the dial personally for me if the watch has aftermarket crystal or bracelet it feels more authentic to the period and that is one of the reasons I collect vintage, to be connected to that particular time and the way things were done!

Personally if it were me I would source a top notch aftermarket bracelet for this one, in many ways it would be much more correct as that is what they would have done in the old days! If you have this watch as an investment (I always think it sad to purchase a vintage for that reason, partly as it does not allow true afficianados the opportunity to purchase at reasonable prices!) then spend the amount of a Rolex bracelet, of course though it will not be authentic..To the period which for me is worse!

You could also try to source a period bracelet, those are around!

shandy · 21 December 2009, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CoopJr

Basically your Rolex will be half fake with the "After market" band...the choice is yours.

NO! NO! NO!
do you have a car, if so, did you purchase it new, if so after many miles did you put new tires on? if so did you put the exact ones that it came with from the dealership!

daveathall · 21 December 2009, 03:18 AM

My watch, my wrist, my choice.

If I buy an aftermarket bracelet and put it on my Rolex and I know it is aftermarket, then it is aftermarket not fake.

If I try to sell the watch as 100% Rolex, the bracelet then becomes fake.

If I had a Rolex watch but couldnt afford a new Rolex bracelet, but could afford an aftermarket bracelet, I would wear that bracelet, no one should feel that they have the right to tell me not to wear that watch just because of the bracelet, not even Rolex.

My watch, my wrist, my choice.

chenx15 · 21 December 2009, 03:23 AM

why would you even think of that idea?

BASSETHOUNDS · 21 December 2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 777

Not that I like to be serious, but come on... it's a watch, not a religion.

I is like what Bill Shankly ( Liverpool FC ) said about football : It's not a matter of life or death ... its much more important ...

BASSETHOUNDS · 21 December 2009, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dcmachead

Would you put Honda rims on your S-Class Benz?

Do they fit ???

shandy · 21 December 2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by daveathall

My watch, my wrist, my choice.

If I buy an aftermarket bracelet and put it on my Rolex and I know it is aftermarket, then it is aftermarket not fake.

If I try to sell the watch as 100% Rolex, the bracelet then becomes fake.

If I had a Rolex watch but couldnt afford a new Rolex bracelet, but could afford an aftermarket bracelet, I would wear that bracelet, no one should feel that they have the right to tell me not to wear that watch just because of the bracelet, not even Rolex.

My watch, my wrist, my choice.

Dave, that is what I love about the people of Yorkshire, good old fashioned commen sense

BarkMaster · 21 December 2009, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

I is like what Bill Shankly ( Liverpool FC ) said about football : It's not a matter of life or death ... its much more important ...

That's funny!

BarkMaster · 21 December 2009, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shandy

Dave, that is what I love about the people of Yorkshire, good old fashioned commen sense

x2

pz93c · 21 December 2009, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by daveathall

My watch, my wrist, my choice.

Agreed.

Jason71 · 21 December 2009, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Jason,

Merry Christmas and lets have fun!

Merry Christmas to you.........And I have really been enjoying this discussion.

Jason71 · 21 December 2009, 03:56 AM

All of you tossers from Great Britain just seem to have a way of expressing yourselves and getting straight to the point

Safetrends · 21 December 2009, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jclevoy

Merry Christmas to you.........And I have really been enjoying this discussion.

I will second that!

rockclimber · 21 December 2009, 05:03 AM

Everyone who feels aftermarket kills a Rolex thinks James Bond is a tosser then. 20mm NATO on a Sub that has 22mm lugs. Aftermarket bezel installed by Q that has a magnet, detonating cord, strangling wire, etc. DB5 with aftermarket ejector seat and bulletproof front windshield. And those Omega that went into space? Aftermarket Velcro straps to wear over their space suits... that really killed the value of that watch.

Everyone gets way too caught up in this subject. Rolex is not a religion, it is just a decent watch for a decent price. We are not defiling a vintage 5512 or Patek pocket watch. Oh, and I did replace the tires on my Range Rovers to Pirelli Scorpions as the OEM are crap, just as the cheap bracelet on my 16610 will be replaced with a solid one in 20 years or so when it wears out.

esm · 21 December 2009, 05:09 AM

great post rockclimber!!!!

Nicko · 21 December 2009, 05:10 AM

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Rolex is not a religion

It's not?

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just as the cheap bracelet on my 16610

Your opinion, I take it?

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James Bond is a tosser then

Lucky bastard!

Jason71 · 21 December 2009, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

great post rockclimber!!!!

x2

shandy · 21 December 2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rockclimber

Everyone who feels aftermarket kills a Rolex thinks James Bond is a tosser then. 20mm NATO on a Sub that has 22mm lugs. Aftermarket bezel installed by Q that has a magnet, detonating cord, strangling wire, etc. DB5 with aftermarket ejector seat and bulletproof front windshield. And those Omega that went into space? Aftermarket Velcro straps to wear over their space suits... that really killed the value of that watch.

Everyone gets way too caught up in this subject. Rolex is not a religion, it is just a decent watch for a decent price. We are not defiling a vintage 5512 or Patek pocket watch. Oh, and I did replace the tires on my Range Rovers to Pirelli Scorpions as the OEM are crap, just as the cheap bracelet on my 16610 will be replaced with a solid one in 20 years or so when it wears out.

+1000

Titan1979 · 21 December 2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kokyuryoku

I agree

Why don't you try Steve Mulholland first? He might be able to get you a good deal on a nice bracelet.

Who is Steve Mulholland?

shandy · 21 December 2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Titan1979

Who is Steve Mulholland?

An excellent chap on the forum who has a passion for finding and selling rare parts for mainly old Rolex's, He would be the one I would go to if I were in the same situation

snowbird · 21 December 2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterST

I am in the same boat. I am looking for a 20mm oyster for my late '80's datejust. Definitely going with the authentic, but having trouble finding it. Local dealer keeps trying to sell me on the new model ($890), but I would rather find the appropriate model for my watch.

Just curious, what material is the $890 for - steel? Two tone?

Newportkrieger · 21 December 2009, 05:04 PM

If you are going to spend the money to own and wear a Rolex then use a real Rolex bracelet. If you cant afford the bracelet or cant afford to get it scuffed up, then can you really afford the watch or to get the watch scuffed up as well?

If its worth doing , its worth doing right....

Good luck.

Andad · 21 December 2009, 05:23 PM

Are authentic Rolex bracelets worth the $$'s.

IMO, at the price the AD's want for them.....No.

Buy an aftermarket replacement if you want. If it hasn't got a Rolex crown on it then it is not a 'fake'. Keep the old one in the box.

Was the original Rolex Sub a copy of a Blancpain 50 fathoms? I have never found the answer to this question.

Barracuda · 22 December 2009, 12:52 AM

Authentic-Aftermarket....pfffffft

I'm all about style....

The band is authentic 1976 Orange Swapmeet, Anaheim Ca....mmm hmmm, bitchin'

quest · 22 December 2009, 02:47 AM

I hope someone thinks so. Im about to sell a sub bracelet : )

submariner16610 · 22 December 2009, 05:20 AM

always go for original

JJ Irani · 22 December 2009, 05:23 AM

Well, after having spent big bucks on the original Super Jubilee Rolex bracelet, I have absolutely no regrets.

It compliments my new V-series Exp-II 100% and gives the watch a whole new dressy look.

The COMFORT factor is something else!!

Think original, buy original!!

JJ

21 December 2009, 03:18 AM	#93
daveathall "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: England. Watch: Various Posts: 7,305	My watch, my wrist, my choice. If I buy an aftermarket bracelet and put it on my Rolex and I know it is aftermarket, then it is aftermarket not fake. If I try to sell the watch as 100% Rolex, the bracelet then becomes fake. If I had a Rolex watch but couldnt afford a new Rolex bracelet, but could afford an aftermarket bracelet, I would wear that bracelet, no one should feel that they have the right to tell me not to wear that watch just because of the bracelet, not even Rolex. My watch, my wrist, my choice. __________________ KINDEST REGARDS DAVE

21 December 2009, 03:23 AM	#94
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21 December 2009, 03:56 AM	#102
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21 December 2009, 05:04 PM	#112
Newportkrieger Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: Newport Beach, CA Watch: GMT Master Pepsi Posts: 1,243	Im sure said before but.... If you are going to spend the money to own and wear a Rolex then use a real Rolex bracelet. If you cant afford the bracelet or cant afford to get it scuffed up, then can you really afford the watch or to get the watch scuffed up as well? If its worth doing , its worth doing right.... Good luck.

21 December 2009, 05:23 PM	#113
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,933	Are authentic Rolex bracelets worth the $$'s. IMO, at the price the AD's want for them.....No. Buy an aftermarket replacement if you want. If it hasn't got a Rolex crown on it then it is not a 'fake'. Keep the old one in the box. Was the original Rolex Sub a copy of a Blancpain 50 fathoms? I have never found the answer to this question. __________________ E

21 December 2009, 05:03 AM	#104
rockclimber Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 69	Everyone who feels aftermarket kills a Rolex thinks James Bond is a tosser then. 20mm NATO on a Sub that has 22mm lugs. Aftermarket bezel installed by Q that has a magnet, detonating cord, strangling wire, etc. DB5 with aftermarket ejector seat and bulletproof front windshield. And those Omega that went into space? Aftermarket Velcro straps to wear over their space suits... that really killed the value of that watch. Everyone gets way too caught up in this subject. Rolex is not a religion, it is just a decent watch for a decent price. We are not defiling a vintage 5512 or Patek pocket watch. Oh, and I did replace the tires on my Range Rovers to Pirelli Scorpions as the OEM are crap, just as the cheap bracelet on my 16610 will be replaced with a solid one in 20 years or so when it wears out.

21 December 2009, 05:09 AM	#105
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	great post rockclimber!!!!

22 December 2009, 12:52 AM	#114
Barracuda "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Watch: DRSD MKll Posts: 84	Authentic-Aftermarket....pfffffft I'm all about style.... The band is authentic 1976 Orange Swapmeet, Anaheim Ca....mmm hmmm, bitchin'

22 December 2009, 02:47 AM	#115
quest Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 25	I hope someone thinks so. Im about to sell a sub bracelet : )

22 December 2009, 05:20 AM	#116
submariner16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: united states Watch: submariner,daytona Posts: 707	always go for original

22 December 2009, 05:23 AM	#117
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Well, after having spent big bucks on the original Super Jubilee Rolex bracelet, I have absolutely no regrets. It compliments my new V-series Exp-II 100% and gives the watch a whole new dressy look. The COMFORT factor is something else!! Think original, buy original!! JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

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