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26 October 2021, 03:00 AM | #91 | |
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Now if my SA had sat me down at the first ever meeting and asked this information I doubt if I would now own a Rolex as I would not have replied to the questions but left the store. My belief is that the stores are desperate to know about you because they are keen to try and establish if you are a flipper, I am reasonably sure that my SA doesn’t want to sell a watch to someone who then immediately sells it on, so getting to know a bit about each client is one way of trying to ascertain whether you want the watch to own and wear or whether you just want to make a fast buck. We all bitch and moan about our AD’s and the lack of watches available but we also bitch and moan when the AD tries to establish if we are genuine buyers to own or just out to make a bit of money. I know one thing, I certainly wouldn’t want to be an AD, they can’t do right for doing wrong.
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26 October 2021, 03:06 AM | #92 | |
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26 October 2021, 03:10 AM | #93 | |
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The experience between WOS Group and my local independent AD was night and day. I expect there are good SAs in Goldsmiths/WOS branches, but I didn’t find them in my local one. |
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26 October 2021, 03:20 AM | #94 | |
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Can see why others may feel it’s invasive but that’s how it is for the moment,,,, SA knew a lot anyway and I after I banged on about our love of history and especially the Tudors I gave too much info ,, we both saw the funny side of that,,, After my initial request,we spend most of the time talking about things that were totally unrelated to watches,,, How the SAs car is running ,,,future cars etc but not very much about watches apart from 25 (at that time ) requests he’s had for an OP 41mm Turquoise but that was about it,, Got the feeling the SAs are tired of repeating “ sorry,no Daytona’s,GMTs or Subs currently available “ ex amount of times ,every day of the week,,,, My empathy is with the SAs and Managers who have to enforce these policies,,,,,, |
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26 October 2021, 08:03 AM | #95 |
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Blind luck. Late 2017. Was quoted 2 years wait for a SubDate by many ADs, I called a remote AD with no relationship at all, they accepted my request for a call "on the off chance" one came up. 6 weeks later, I'm the proud owner of a 116610LN. That then opened the door to a 126660 JC, and I'm on the list for a Batman and Starbucks.
They do still try their luck with "something for the wife?", but it's not "her thing". So we will see what happens.... |
26 October 2021, 08:37 AM | #96 |
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The AD gets in a 6k RRP watch. The grey price is 10k.
Why would they ever sell it for 6k with no additional benefit to them? That's not how business works lol! As for Rolex 'forcing them to sell watched at RRP to genuine enthusiast biyers?'... Well who wants to put much of the 4k uplift in the bin to do that? |
26 October 2021, 03:50 PM | #97 |
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It’s difficult to build any relationship when it’s one way. The majority of relationships with AD’s are in the mind of the customer , most AD’s don’t give a flying FCK
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26 October 2021, 04:53 PM | #98 | |
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Yep. I couldn’t agree more with your sentiments. My comment you’ve quoted was tongue-in-cheek. |
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26 October 2021, 06:14 PM | #99 | |
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So the simple truth is work with your AD or spend loads of extra hard earned cash and go grey.
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26 October 2021, 06:19 PM | #100 | |
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Cant have a go at the customers, i.e 'us' just because the AD has no stock to sell.
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26 October 2021, 11:34 PM | #101 | |
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27 October 2021, 12:36 AM | #102 |
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SA dont make or make very little commision on PP and Rolex. WoS is just the worst when it comes to building a relationship that's all.
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27 October 2021, 03:23 AM | #103 |
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27 October 2021, 04:09 AM | #104 |
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27 October 2021, 04:14 AM | #105 | |
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Every conversation I have in a professional capacity, starts with a no. Naturally, most end with a yes. The landscape of a retail environment is a world apart, let alone, and I say this with a cringe, ‘selling’, a Rolex watch. |
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27 October 2021, 04:35 AM | #106 |
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27 October 2021, 04:57 AM | #107 |
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27 October 2021, 05:43 AM | #108 | |
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Who buys lots of Rolex watches, unless they are being sold on |
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27 October 2021, 07:21 AM | #109 | |
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27 October 2021, 08:06 AM | #110 |
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Recently I believe a lot of Goldsmiths store are using Rolex watches to their advantage to sell other products…this in my opinion then means they don’t really care if their being sold to flippers!
As I’ve stated in my previous response, it’s a sad state of affairs coz they (not all by the way!) now don’t care about selling to the right people, but more about selling to ones that help them achieve their targets Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
20 December 2021, 08:29 AM | #111 |
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Has anyone purchased an in demand Rolex from Goldsmiths or WoS lately.
Whenever I speak to the sales assistants, I keep getting told that they are getting hardly any stock from Rolex. |
20 December 2021, 09:00 AM | #112 |
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Watches of Switzerland Group are terrible but more profitable than ever. Alas.
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20 December 2021, 09:06 AM | #113 |
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Tell the AD to poke it,and buy another make! These people have no right to treat customers like they do,and they get away with it because people are daft enough to comply with them, M&W wouldn't put me on the waiting list for two pieces last year,even with a purchase history from the same shop!
Told them to do one and spent my money elsewhere,Martins in Cheltenham, good honest family firm worth the 6 hour round trip. As other people have written if you want to buy now go to a dealer.Good luck. |
20 December 2021, 09:12 AM | #114 |
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Have 4 at retail from WOS brought my first SD from them in 2001
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20 December 2021, 09:38 AM | #115 |
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20 December 2021, 10:15 AM | #116 |
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20 December 2021, 11:23 AM | #117 |
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20 December 2021, 11:26 AM | #118 | |
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Out of interest, did you get the Yacht Master as a walk in or did you have to put your name down? |
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20 December 2021, 05:26 PM | #119 | |
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Trust me, they get supply, but it goes to preferred clients mostly. |
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20 December 2021, 06:06 PM | #120 | |
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You’ve hit the nail right on the head, this Is so so true. I’ll never step into anyone of their stores ever again.
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