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Old 9 November 2013, 06:55 AM   #241
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My question is... I don't want to break the bank and therefore I'm looking at any watches that have the ceramic bezel which I think start as far back as 2008. What I don't know however is if there were there any modifications to the GMT II between 2008 to date that would make you change your decision as to how old or new the watch you're about to buy would have to be? will I be missing out on features, etc if I go with a 2008 vs. a 2013?

Also, I see you guys talk about C, LV, BLNXXX, what are all the variations of these two models since the ceramic Bezel has been out? or is there a link I can read those? I've already searched without much luck BTW...

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As for changes since introduction of the ceramic, not much that would make me want a newer one. In fact, the only change I can think of off the top of my head is that it has been reported that some recently purchased GMTs have had blue lume rather than green. Someone will add to this if I missed some other changes.

As for the various initials, the "C" simply refers to the ceramic bezel rather than the previous generation aluminum ones - as in GMT2C or SubC. This is only us fans throwing the "C" in, Rolex does not include this in official model numbers. As far as Rolex goes, the distinction is that the previous gen Subs and GMTs had 5 digit model numbers and the current ceramics have six digits.

The LV is part of the official Rolex model number for the Sub and refers to the Sub with the green bezel and dial i.e. the 116610LV. The 116710BLNR refers to the GMT with the Black/blue two tone bezel. The other main differences with the BLNR are different colored font on the dial and a blue 24 hour hand rather than the green hand. The BLNR just came out this year so you probably won't find a used one for significantly less money than MSRP yet.
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Old 13 November 2013, 06:45 PM   #242
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The SUB got me..
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Old 16 November 2013, 02:27 AM   #243
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Sub forever.....

The big numbers on the GMT bezel are horrendous. The old bezel was nicer.
In the Sub. this change does not happen and the watch looks splendid.
IMHO
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Old 16 November 2013, 02:17 PM   #244
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The big numbers on the GMT bezel are horrendous. The old bezel was nicer.
In the Sub. this change does not happen and the watch looks splendid.
IMHO
Nothing horrendous about this.
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Old 16 November 2013, 02:31 PM   #245
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Nothing horrendous about this.
I agree, the bolder numbers appeal to me. And the 24 click bezel is a definite improvement. But he did say it was his opinion, and to each his own.
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Old 16 November 2013, 11:40 PM   #246
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GMT vs Sub

Had the same "problem"....
Was turning around the sub in circles since past 6 years... Beautiful piece of art.

Since my job makes me travel a lot and my hobby are planes, the GMT made the race.
I love the second time zone and use it very often.

The sub is a bit more decent, the actual GMT is a bit more "bling".

But both are beautiful watches, lucky we have two hand wrists....

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Old 17 November 2013, 12:57 AM   #247
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GMT 2...twotone
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Old 21 November 2014, 03:49 PM   #248
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Got the new Sub-c, but a bit disappointed to find the bracelet scratches so easily. Being a tool watch the body itself seems indestructible but cannot say the same for the bracelet. Still love it though!
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Old 22 November 2014, 09:55 AM   #249
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I have the GMT II C as well and never really liked the PCL. Did you get the center links brushed or did you replace them?
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Old 22 November 2014, 07:24 PM   #250
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Old 23 November 2014, 04:05 AM   #251
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Old 23 November 2014, 04:09 AM   #252
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The big numbers on the GMT bezel are horrendous. The old bezel was nicer.
In the Sub. this change does not happen and the watch looks splendid.
IMHO
Amen! Finally someone else see this! I cannot understand why Rolex did this with the GMT bezel numbers.

I recently had to decide between a YG SubC Bluesy or a YG GMT11 Green....the bezel was IMHO ugly on the GMT so I went with the SubC Bluesy....Everyone I showed a pic of the GMT next to SubC to said the same thing.."I don't like the big numbers on the bezel".
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Old 30 November 2014, 04:25 PM   #253
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As someone whom went thru the same situation

Both are different and the GMT is louder as the PCL shouts "look at me!"

I would go for sub first.
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Old 1 December 2014, 04:53 PM   #254
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I'd go for the Sub. Its a Rolex classic.
The GMT is just to blink-blink for me.
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Old 1 December 2014, 05:17 PM   #255
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Have you considered the 42 mm Explorer II? If you're going to have only one Rolex it is PERFECT. Just a thought.
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Old 2 December 2014, 01:11 AM   #256
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Old 2 December 2014, 01:48 AM   #257
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Nothing horrendous about this.
Agreed! I prefer the newer styling and the ceramic bezel, in my opinion, is so much better than the old aluminum ones. Every time I think I might choose a 16710 as my second Rolex I'll see one in the wild with a dull bezel and it will reinforce my desire to add the BLNR of Sub. As to your dilemma, I'm afraid I can't help. I think the BLNR and the 114060 are equal and the most beautiful sport watches Rolex makes. Let us know what you decide(d).
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Old 2 December 2014, 01:59 AM   #258
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The Sub C is my pick.
i dislike GMTIIc for it centre polished links and clutterd bezel.
Sub C is simple and a Rolex classic-:)
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Old 4 December 2014, 03:35 PM   #259
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Gmt for me
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Old 4 December 2014, 03:37 PM   #260
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Sub date UNLESS it's a BLNR! Then blnr hands down
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Old 14 December 2014, 02:40 AM   #261
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This is definitely one of those million dollar questions (maybe more like $8k) a lot of us struggle with when we're looking for a diver style watch. Don't you hate it when our budget spoils all the fun? :)




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Old 16 December 2014, 04:49 AM   #262
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sub has a nice bezel (the clicks feel awesome) and it has a better clasp - ability to resize ur watch instantly - esp useful during the summer

it is a matter of opinion - try them both on - you will decide instantly
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Old 16 December 2014, 10:06 AM   #263
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Sub is most Rolex owners' first watch and with good reason. The Glidelock of the SubC is extremely attractive too.
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Old 16 December 2014, 11:39 AM   #264
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I just purchased a GMT II, thought I wanted the Submariner, but glad I got this one.
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Old 18 December 2014, 02:38 AM   #265
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Old 18 December 2014, 03:59 AM   #266
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I wish the numbers on the GMT's bezel were noticeably smaller.
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