5270 vs 5970

[nyc2la]

Originally Posted by Marciano490

Do we think the discontinuance of the 5270g will have any immediate impact on the pricing?

Which 5270g are you referring to?

[dom007]

Originally Posted by nyc2la

Which 5270g are you referring to?

There are rumors that the 5270g (3rd generations) blue and white dial are discontinued...

[nyc2la]

Originally Posted by dom007

There are rumors that the 5270g (3rd generations) blue and white dial are discontinued...

Reliable sources? As an owner of the R, why can't it be the R??????

[dom007]

Originally Posted by nyc2la

Reliable sources? As an owner of the R, why can't it be the R??????

Patekaholic posted a list with discontinued references on his instagram account three days ago...

If I look at the listed references it does make a lot of sense to me.

[Oryx]

I think the blue dial 5270G 3rd gen will be a future classic

[jon_jon]

Originally Posted by dom007

Patekaholic posted a list with discontinued references on his instagram account three days ago...

If I look at the listed references it does make a lot of sense to me.

It would not surprise me if Patek discontinued their entire line of 5270Gs. They had a 6 year run (since 2011) and in the mind of many collectors, over-produced.

5270R has been produced since 2015, so I predict it will continue production for a few more years with other dial combinations.

[Marciano490]

Originally Posted by dom007

Patekaholic posted a list with discontinued references on his instagram account three days ago...

If I look at the listed references it does make a lot of sense to me.

Didn't make sense to me either, and a bunch I thought would go aren't on it, but he's put his neck pretty far out on it and said it's been published.

[pp5575]

Is there a 5270P in 2017 Basel?

[raclaims]

I heard the same...I just keep waiting for the platinum without diamonds...maybe a new version will have it...I think it's had a decent run...will be interesting to see what basel has to offer.

[nyc2la]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I heard the same...I just keep waiting for the platinum without diamonds...maybe a new version will have it...I think it's had a decent run...will be interesting to see what basel has to offer.

A 5270P will be nice (a.k.a. bad for the wallet).

What's your best guess with regards to how much longer the 5270R will remain in production?

They still haven't produced a J, yet. Maybe the J and P this year??

[raclaims]

I'd be very surprised to see a J,R and P lineup.

I'm betting on a new version all together.

Hopefully a blue one where you can actually read the time/same for Platinum.

[pp5575]

Why not many people choose white dial with G?

It seems to me. Most people like blue dial and rose gold.

[jzeraei]

Lemania based movements always win. 5970.

[cervantes]

5270G blue and white dial are discontinued. Also 5170G black dial. 5396 non-breugets RG and WG too.

[NiceShirt]

Originally Posted by cervantes

5270G blue and white dial are discontinued. Also 5170G black dial. 5396 non-breugets RG and WG too.

I saw this too. Was thinking about getting the blue one. Will they change the dial again? It looks like rose gold is staying, so is it just new metals?

[pp5575]

Originally Posted by cervantes

5270G blue and white dial are discontinued. Also 5170G black dial. 5396 non-breugets RG and WG too.

Do you have any news about 5271P or 5270P?

[cervantes]

Originally Posted by pp5575

Do you have any news about 5271P or 5270P?

No, nothing yet. But this has been confirmed by my AD. I saw the list of discontinued models. I think the Calatrava 6000G was on it too.

I wonder what they're going to do with the chrono models...

[jschmidtdmd]

I really want the 5270 blue dial......it's just been such a dog, I am not sure it being discontinued makes it a better decision short term

[conkers]

First series 5270 discontinued for some time and prices still softening. It will require some time before this model, either first second or third series, becomes collectible. Buy it because it is an amazing watch and you love it but not because you believe it will be collectible in the near term.

[cervantes]

Originally Posted by conkers

First series 5270 discontinued for some time and prices still softening. It will require some time before this model, either first second or third series, becomes collectible. Buy it because it is an amazing watch and you love it but not because you believe it will be collectible in the near term.

Buy it because you love it (the blue dial is sweet). I don't imagine the 5270 or 5170 will become collectible.

[nyc2la]

Originally Posted by cervantes

Buy it because you love it (the blue dial is sweet). I don't imagine the 5270 or 5170 will become collectible.

There has been only one R version released so far, so if they keep the production run short, could this become a collectible one down the road? Only time will tell, of course, but it is unique (so far) in that regard. Full disclosure, I have the R.

[Socal to az]

He 5270r whether it becomes a collectible or not I don't know but I do know that it's one hell of a watch and I'll have one on my wrist in the future!!!

The blue is nice but not r nice imho.

[cervantes]

Originally Posted by nyc2la

There has been only one R version released so far, so if they keep the production run short, could this become a collectible one down the road? Only time will tell, of course, but it is unique (so far) in that regard. Full disclosure, I have the R.

I seriously doubt it. The newer chronos are produced in large numbers and haven't engendered the enthusiasm from collectors as the older Lemania-based models. I don't see that changing. In fact other than a couple of one off pieces like the 5131, I don't see any modern Pateks becoming collectible like the older models. It's a different world now...

[roma1280]

Originally Posted by cervantes

I seriously doubt it. The newer chronos are produced in large numbers and haven't engendered the enthusiasm from collectors as the older Lemania-based models. I don't see that changing. In fact other than a couple of one off pieces like the 5131, I don't see any modern Pateks becoming collectible like the older models. It's a different world now...

I agree with this. I say this with some trepidation given the 5270 fans here, but I think the feature where the 5270 has sub dials that are centered below the middle of the face completely throws off the symmetry of the dial and makes the lower half look crowded and squashed and leaves the top half totally empty. Find a picture of the 5270 that doesn't have the hands at 10 to 10 and this is very noticeable. Look it's a gorgeous watch so understand these are extremely picky observations, but I don't think 5270 will be held in the same regard as the 5970 and predecessors. The comment above about the movement is fair too.

[Socal to az]

There is a whole market of Patek buyers who appreciate the larger sizes that Patek is putting out. At 41mm the 5270 is a winner to me over the 5970 which is smaller. Don't know if it will be a collectible or not nor do I care but I know it's in my future and a 5970 is not. Looking forward to Basel and hopefully more 42mm watches from Patek aka 5524 and 5905.