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Old 25 August 2016, 03:06 AM   #1
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26178ok rgrc

THE BUG has HIT ME! I

'm looking into picking up a RGRC & wanted to get some photos/input from current/previous owners. I wanted to know how the watch holds up over time. I would be looking to pickup the updated/last model year but wanted to see how the watch looks with daily wear. I've seen some that are in MINT condition with a great bezel and some with a shiny cheap plastic looking bezel. In general i want to know how the watch ages and how often i would need to replace the bezel to keep it looking MINT. I'm super OCD and with the RGRC i love how it looks new and hate how it looks with a shiny bezel.

PS: i know everyone is going to say to get the RG44. Although i LOVE that watch it's not an option as the 44 is too big for my wrist.
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Old 25 August 2016, 06:05 AM   #2
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This is my rgrc which I bought new on Christmas Eve 2012 so it's 3 years 8 months old. I had the rubber bezel replaced in May this year and although the bezel only costs a relatively small amount it has to be done as part of a service so the total cost was £1300. As the bezel is solid gold covered by thin rubber AP have a complicated method of charging for replacing the rubber - it works out to be around £500.

I wear my watch 3 - 4 times a week and for me I think the bezel really needs changing every 2 years. A pal of mine also had this same style and he managed to take a couple of chunks out of the rubber by knocking it badly. I've never had this problem but I suppose you need to be careful.

Bear in mind that if you find one that is 3, 4 or 5 years old then the previous owner will have paid at least £36,000 before discount, at the point that I took mine the retail was £40,000 so current values make it look like a bargain. Good luck.
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Old 25 August 2016, 06:11 AM   #3
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By the way, AP will now replace the rubber bezel for ceramic, from the L.E Buemi. To do this they charge £1700 but retain the rubber/gold bezel.

Not sure how this 'upgrade would affect resale as it would no longer be a rubber clad.
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Old 25 August 2016, 07:54 AM   #4
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By the way, AP will now replace the rubber bezel for ceramic, from the L.E Buemi. To do this they charge £1700 but retain the rubber/gold bezel.

Not sure how this 'upgrade would affect resale as it would no longer be a rubber clad.
First thank you for the input. Second, i am stunned that they swap it out for a ceramic bezel. That is literally the combo i love. Is there any photos of that setup? When the 26470 was originally announced i was hoping they did a new RG/Ceramic.
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Old 25 August 2016, 10:48 AM   #5
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As AshAP says you might have to change the bezel every 2/3 years however the prices now are £17K here so are great value for so much watch so it wouldn't put me off.
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Old 25 August 2016, 02:40 PM   #6
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Here is the requested photo, this is not my watch - I've taken this from the Internet, it was originally posted on Watchprosite.

The details about the ceramic bezel are not here say, AP have confirmed directly to me that they are happy to do this and cost etc. They also confirmed that it is only the ceramic bezel that they would swap to - they would not allow a swap to Cermet for example even though they make a 42mm bezel for the Trulli L.E.
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Old 25 August 2016, 03:19 PM   #7
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Here is the requested photo, this is not my watch - I've taken this from the Internet, it was originally posted on Watchprosite.

The details about the ceramic bezel are not here say, AP have confirmed directly to me that they are happy to do this and cost etc. They also confirmed that it is only the ceramic bezel that they would swap to - they would not allow a swap to Cermet for example even though they make a 42mm bezel for the Trulli L.E.
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Old 25 August 2016, 03:31 PM   #8
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Old 25 August 2016, 11:10 PM   #9
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Looks really good!
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Old 26 August 2016, 05:43 AM   #10
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Wow ! Am stunned.
Have been waiting years for the 42mm RG with ceramic bezel to come out and to find that they do it already is amazing, I certainly never imagined AP would do such a swap. Great that they do though. Not cheap but then any trade of my RC to a ceramic version if it came out would cost me more anyway.
May well be doing this when my RC goes for a service.
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Old 26 August 2016, 05:47 AM   #11
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Old 26 August 2016, 08:37 AM   #12
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Personally I don't like the ceramic bezel in the RC... The pushers and the crown are rubber covered... I don't think they match...
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Old 26 August 2016, 03:30 PM   #13
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Personally I don't like the ceramic bezel in the RC... The pushers and the crown are rubber covered... I don't think they match...


So are the Bumblebee's pushers/crown. So are the Ginza's... ;)
(They have ceramic bezels)
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Old 26 August 2016, 06:31 PM   #14
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Good info regarding the Rubber bezel. I've always wondered how and will they replace it. Good to know, it's not needed to replace the gold beneath it!

The ceramic bezel sure looks good on this watch (I have the same watch) how much would it be?
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Old 27 August 2016, 12:44 AM   #15
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I've never gotten why not just remove the rubber and let the gold bezel do its thing.

Yes it will get scratched but then again, that's what polishing is for.

I've seen it without the rubber and think it looks great!
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Old 27 August 2016, 01:56 AM   #16
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I've never gotten why not just remove the rubber and let the gold bezel do its thing.

Yes it will get scratched but then again, that's what polishing is for.

I've seen it without the rubber and think it looks great!
But wasn't there a version prior to the Rubberclad that was without the rubber?
And is the bezel beneath the rubber finished like an AP should be?
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The ones I have seen were finished nicely.

http://www.beverlyhillswatch.com/aud...01-8fu1rz.html
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Old 27 August 2016, 03:13 AM   #18
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I have to say there's something with that black and gold contrast. The rubber just works as does the ceramic
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Old 27 August 2016, 05:49 AM   #19
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I have to say there's something with that black and gold contrast. The rubber just works as does the ceramic
Yeah, since the actual bezel is gold, it would just be "silly" to remove the gold and add Ceramics IMHO.
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Old 27 August 2016, 05:50 AM   #20
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The ones I have seen were finished nicely.

http://www.beverlyhillswatch.com/aud...01-8fu1rz.html
I actually prefer this look. Damn. Another first world problem...

Anyone removed their Rubber?
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Old 27 August 2016, 11:18 AM   #21
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I actually prefer this look. Damn. Another first world problem...



Anyone removed their Rubber?


No rubber is preferred
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Old 28 August 2016, 05:23 AM   #22
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If rubber is removed I believe the main 'issue' is that the screws/bolts are a little bit higher than the bezel (by the amount of the thickness of the rubber obviously).
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Old 28 August 2016, 06:25 AM   #23
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If rubber is removed I believe the main 'issue' is that the screws/bolts are a little bit higher than the bezel (by the amount of the thickness of the rubber obviously).
I was thinking of that too. Oh well. I think it's best to leave it as AP thought it should look like.
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Found a pic online..

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THE BUG has HIT ME! I

'm looking into picking up a RGRC & wanted to get some photos/input from current/previous owners. I wanted to know how the watch holds up over time. I would be looking to pickup the updated/last model year but wanted to see how the watch looks with daily wear. I've seen some that are in MINT condition with a great bezel and some with a shiny cheap plastic looking bezel. In general i want to know how the watch ages and how often i would need to replace the bezel to keep it looking MINT. I'm super OCD and with the RGRC i love how it looks new and hate how it looks with a shiny bezel.

PS: i know everyone is going to say to get the RG44. Although i LOVE that watch it's not an option as the 44 is too big for my wrist.
Very timely for this special explanation of the different Rubberclads. Check the article.

http://www.watchcollectinglifestyle....f-rubber-by-ap
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If rubber is removed I believe the main 'issue' is that the screws/bolts are a little bit higher than the bezel (by the amount of the thickness of the rubber obviously).
Read here:

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I actually prefer this look. Damn. Another first world problem...

Anyone removed their Rubber?
You'll find pics of the rubber removed right here: http://www.watchcollectinglifestyle....f-rubber-by-ap
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Here is the requested photo, this is not my watch - I've taken this from the Internet, it was originally posted on Watchprosite.

The details about the ceramic bezel are not here say, AP have confirmed directly to me that they are happy to do this and cost etc. They also confirmed that it is only the ceramic bezel that they would swap to - they would not allow a swap to Cermet for example even though they make a 42mm bezel for the Trulli L.E.
Quite interesting because the only modifications that AP would do are only if the modification doesn't alter the essence of the watch based on its reference number. With that being said, they won't even allow to install the dial of the 25940OK.OO.D002CA.02 on the previous generation 25940OK.OO.D002CA.01.
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Old 1 September 2016, 12:37 AM   #29
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Quite interesting because the only modifications that AP would do are only if the modification doesn't alter the essence of the watch based on its reference number. With that being said, they won't even allow to install the dial of the 25940OK.OO.D002CA.02 on the previous generation 25940OK.OO.D002CA.01.

I own a gold rubberclad, this is an upgrade that AP have directly offered me so it is not something that I've just overheard and then repeated on this forum.

I think the reasoning behind it is similar to that of the carbon GP where the carbon bezel can now be changed to ceremic. AP have acknowledged that certain materials don't last as long as initially intended and therefore in this situation they approve an alternative, in this case the ceramic bezel. This last sentence was the explanation given directly to me on the AP museum tour in Le Brassus - on the floor where they exhibit every Royal Oak in cabinets there is a GP with a ceramic bezel, when I asked about it this was the explanation given.

Thanks for the article regarding the rubberclad, it's very informative and very well researched.
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I own a gold rubberclad, this is an upgrade that AP have directly offered me so it is not something that I've just overheard and then repeated on this forum.

I think the reasoning behind it is similar to that of the carbon GP where the carbon bezel can now be changed to ceremic. AP have acknowledged that certain materials don't last as long as initially intended and therefore in this situation they approve an alternative, in this case the ceramic bezel. This last sentence was the explanation given directly to me on the AP museum tour in Le Brassus - on the floor where they exhibit every Royal Oak in cabinets there is a GP with a ceramic bezel, when I asked about it this was the explanation given.

Thanks for the article regarding the rubberclad, it's very informative and very well researched.
Interesting to hear they told you that. I also own a RGRC and APSC in Clearwater has been very clear with me about not doing certain modifications. Perhaps the APSC where you are is less strict. Good to know. Glad you liked the article.
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