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aaronr · 24 January 2010, 05:48 PM

As I search, it appears like even the early ones are "no holes" subs. Is this the case or just coincidences in the ads I'm seeing?

Woody · 24 January 2010, 05:59 PM

Yes - there was an early publicity shot issued by Rolex which showed the watch with lug holes but the first examples released didn't have them - rumour has it that it was a deliberate strategy to confuse the fakers.

Andad · 24 January 2010, 06:01 PM

I believe there was a 'no lug hole' LV sub shown prior to release.
I don't think there were any 'no lug hole' LV subs sold.
The only 'no lug hole' sub is the current 14060M sub.

I'm slow on the keyboard Woody.

HL65 · 24 January 2010, 09:56 PM

Yes--no lug holes on any LV's sold--just a photo showing one with them that was never released as stated above.

Jason71 · 24 January 2010, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

I believe there was a 'no lug hole' LV sub shown prior to release.
I don't think there were any 'no lug hole' LV subs sold.
The only 'no lug hole' sub is the current 14060M sub.

I'm slow on the keyboard Woody.

It was late..........you got the facts exactly opposite.

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

I believe there was a 'lug hole' LV sub shown prior to release.
I don't think there were any 'lug hole' LV subs sold.
The only 'lug hole' sub is the current 14060M sub.

I'm slow on the keyboard Woody.

aaronr · 24 January 2010, 11:43 PM

Cool, thanks guys!
Aaron

rolexsubdate · 24 January 2010, 11:48 PM

I believe all SUB LVs are F serials and onwards ... so they should all have NO HOLES cases and LEC at 6'0 clock .... If either is missing, then it is a DOLEX!

mike · 25 January 2010, 12:01 AM

This is the photo most refer to.

Supposedly released by Rolex to fool fakers.

swissautopro · 25 January 2010, 12:07 AM

While the very first LV's released were Y serials (true anniversary models, but debatable due to the "oval" dial found in Y and F serials), none had lug holes. The promotional photo has been addressed, but the Y/F serial issue has not.

mike · 25 January 2010, 12:09 AM

For those into the LVs here's a great read.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

swissautopro · 25 January 2010, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

For those into the LVs here's a great read.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

That's exactly the thread I was looking for. Best thread on LV's I have ever read.

HL65 · 25 January 2010, 12:24 AM

The Y was the first released--I had one--sold it like a fool only to buy another recently from Greg/Mosco--an M with no engraved reahuat--one of the few released that way.

mganderson1 · 25 January 2010, 10:49 PM

I'm new and I am still learning all of the lingo/abreviations. I just got my first Rolex, an LV, last month at an AD -- Kirk's Freeport in Grand Cayman, so I'm pretty sure its real. It is a Z series. I have noticed from many of the pictures on the related threads that there is engraving on the inside of the "ring" around the face. Mine does not have this. Is this correct?

I read the info posted on the link from "mike" yesterday. It is brilliant! However, I am still a bit confused.

Thanks for any advice.

Michael - a new member

4000 feet · 1 February 2010, 05:34 PM

As far as I know there was never any LVS with lug hole cases. All the LVS I know of have no hole cases. 4000 feet.

Andad · 1 February 2010, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

I believe there was a 'no lug hole' LV sub shown prior to release.
I don't think there were any 'no lug hole' LV subs sold.
The only 'no lug hole' sub is the current 14060M sub.

I'm slow on the keyboard Woody.

I knew what I meant to say.

sakuraba · 2 February 2010, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mganderson1

I'm new and I am still learning all of the lingo/abreviations. I just got my first Rolex, an LV, last month at an AD -- Kirk's Freeport in Grand Cayman, so I'm pretty sure its real. It is a Z series. I have noticed from many of the pictures on the related threads that there is engraving on the inside of the "ring" around the face. Mine does not have this. Is this correct?

I read the info posted on the link from "mike" yesterday. It is brilliant! However, I am still a bit confused.

Thanks for any advice.

Michael - a new member

Welcome to TRF, Michael!

The rehaut engraving began mid M series, so your Z series would be correct not to have it.

24 January 2010, 05:48 PM	#1
aaronr "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: Indiana Watch: 16200 DJ & 116710 Posts: 127	Do all LV Subs come with no holes? As I search, it appears like even the early ones are "no holes" subs. Is this the case or just coincidences in the ads I'm seeing?

24 January 2010, 06:01 PM	#3
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,849	I believe there was a 'no lug hole' LV sub shown prior to release. I don't think there were any 'no lug hole' LV subs sold. The only 'no lug hole' sub is the current 14060M sub. I'm slow on the keyboard Woody. __________________ E

24 January 2010, 09:56 PM	#4
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,422	Yes--no lug holes on any LV's sold--just a photo showing one with them that was never released as stated above. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

25 January 2010, 12:07 AM	#9
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	While the very first LV's released were Y serials (true anniversary models, but debatable due to the "oval" dial found in Y and F serials), none had lug holes. The promotional photo has been addressed, but the Y/F serial issue has not. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

25 January 2010, 12:24 AM	#12
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,422	The Y was the first released--I had one--sold it like a fool only to buy another recently from Greg/Mosco--an M with no engraved reahuat--one of the few released that way. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

24 January 2010, 05:59 PM	#2
Woody "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Africa Posts: 1,120	Yes - there was an early publicity shot issued by Rolex which showed the watch with lug holes but the first examples released didn't have them - rumour has it that it was a deliberate strategy to confuse the fakers.

24 January 2010, 11:43 PM	#6
aaronr "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: Indiana Watch: 16200 DJ & 116710 Posts: 127	Cool, thanks guys! Aaron

24 January 2010, 11:48 PM	#7
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	I believe all SUB LVs are F serials and onwards ... so they should all have NO HOLES cases and LEC at 6'0 clock .... If either is missing, then it is a DOLEX!

25 January 2010, 12:01 AM	#8
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	This is the photo most refer to. Supposedly released by Rolex to fool fakers.

25 January 2010, 12:09 AM	#10
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	For those into the LVs here's a great read. http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

25 January 2010, 10:49 PM	#13
mganderson1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hudson, Ohio Posts: 1	New Member question I'm new and I am still learning all of the lingo/abreviations. I just got my first Rolex, an LV, last month at an AD -- Kirk's Freeport in Grand Cayman, so I'm pretty sure its real. It is a Z series. I have noticed from many of the pictures on the related threads that there is engraving on the inside of the "ring" around the face. Mine does not have this. Is this correct? I read the info posted on the link from "mike" yesterday. It is brilliant! However, I am still a bit confused. Thanks for any advice. Michael - a new member

1 February 2010, 05:34 PM	#14
4000 feet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Northern CA Watch: ROLEX. Posts: 137	As far as I know there was never any LVS with lug hole cases. All the LVS I know of have no hole cases. 4000 feet.

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