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Old 25 October 2017, 02:43 AM   #1
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Old 25 October 2017, 04:09 AM   #2
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That's great news!! Enjoy it!
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Old 25 October 2017, 05:11 AM   #3
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Old 25 October 2017, 06:12 AM   #4
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Glad this craziness was resolved as most of us expected.

I agree that this idea of not disclosing the elements of a fake that identify it as fake makes no sense. Obviously anyone who goes to the trouble of creating them is going to use real ones as their template. They will know what they get right and what they skimp on. Their goal is not to fool the longtime members of forums like this, but instead the unsuspecting masses who are looking for the elusive killer deal.
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Old 25 October 2017, 03:49 PM   #5
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Glad this craziness was resolved as most of us expected.

I agree that this idea of not disclosing the elements of a fake that identify it as fake makes no sense. Obviously anyone who goes to the trouble of creating them is going to use real ones as their template. They will know what they get right and what they skimp on. Their goal is not to fool the longtime members of forums like this, but instead the unsuspecting masses who are looking for the elusive killer deal.
Agreed. The factories who produce the fakes scrutinize their products to minute details to make it better each revision. Buyers of the 'superfakes' scrutinize even more between every fake producing factories. A few posts on TRF isn't going to help them not one bit. Some users quick to call out OP's genuine watch as fake just shows the users of this forum turns a blind eye to the 'superfake' community rather than arm themselves of what to look out for these days.

Looking through what's coming out of China's factories these days I'm turned off from ever purchasing PAM111, PAM000 without looking at the movement under a loupe. They're very close to perfecting the Sub and pre-owned buyers should be very wary of frankenstein watches where genuine parts are used for parts.
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Old 25 October 2017, 08:17 AM   #6
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I'm glad it turned out for you. Enjoy the watch.
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Old 25 October 2017, 08:34 AM   #7
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Enjoy, there was nothing wrong with your watch from the photos at all. As I said previously it's a shame people chime in saying fake or suspicious when they don't actually know. I am glad you have your full conclusive answer now.
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Old 25 October 2017, 10:40 AM   #8
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Good to hear that it is all working fine for you.
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Old 25 October 2017, 11:54 AM   #9
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Old 25 October 2017, 12:10 PM   #10
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Congrats! ..now get your arse in on the wrist shot threads! :p
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Old 25 October 2017, 11:38 PM   #11
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looks legit to me
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Old 26 October 2017, 01:54 AM   #12
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glad that saga ended well...congrats on an iconic watch
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Old 26 October 2017, 02:23 AM   #13
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I am glad you everything worked out.

I am a firm believer that if you see something wrong then say it. I am not concerned if copy cats look here for advice on building knock offs. I look forward to the exchange of information and the education we are all getting. You must remember people spend large sums of money on what is believed to be genuine items. Decrying them as fake can be damaging in many ways. Stand behind what you say or don't say it.
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Old 26 October 2017, 03:03 AM   #14
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There is this idea that manufacturers of fake watches use these discussions to make better fakes.

I don't think this is valid.

People can't honestly believe that fakers don't have access to real watches. I can assure you that the factory making fakes can get a real watch from somewhere.

Fakers can't replicate exact copies because they don't have the exact same equipment and production facilities that a company like Rolex has. That's why we see some of the things we know as common signs of a fake.
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Old 26 October 2017, 01:14 PM   #15
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There is this idea that manufacturers of fake watches use these discussions to make better fakes.

I don't think this is valid.

People can't honestly believe that fakers don't have access to real watches. I can assure you that the factory making fakes can get a real watch from somewhere.

Fakers can't replicate exact copies because they don't have the exact same equipment and production facilities that a company like Rolex has. That's why we see some of the things we know as common signs of a fake.
Yep, take a look at the platinum fillings in the bezel, rehault engravings, crown on the crystal under a loupe and you can tell immediately the refinement just isn't there even on the best fakes. Every angle is scrutinized from real ones to get the dimensions perfect so if you are not sure if you're buying a genuine watch, don't buy without sight unseen.
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Old 27 October 2017, 09:18 AM   #16
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I am glad to hear it worked out well for the OP.
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Old 27 October 2017, 10:24 AM   #17
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Old 27 October 2017, 12:06 PM   #18
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Old 27 October 2017, 01:16 PM   #19
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2010 Grad school. Did you go there? If so, what year are you?


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Old 28 October 2017, 11:54 AM   #20
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Old 27 October 2017, 01:18 PM   #21
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There are 3 issues that worry me about that appraisal letter...
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Old 27 October 2017, 02:22 PM   #22
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There are 3 issues that worry me about that appraisal letter...
Hilarious.
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Old 28 October 2017, 07:26 AM   #23
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Old 29 October 2017, 02:11 AM   #24
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3 posts and you're killing it.
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Old 2 November 2017, 11:38 PM   #25
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That is some seriously funny stuff.....
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Old 27 October 2017, 04:03 PM   #26
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It's unbelievable this thread has more than 6000 views..
I will definitely remember the "buy the seller, not watch" next time.
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Old 28 October 2017, 12:24 AM   #27
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I will definitely remember the "buy the seller, not watch" next time.


Need to “buy the reviewer, not the watch”
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Old 27 October 2017, 05:21 PM   #28
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The button on the pouch is suspiciously off-center.
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Old 28 October 2017, 12:25 PM   #29
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Glad I was wrong! I’ll admit I was wrong, the laser engraved crown being so visible through me for a loop! Wear it in good health!


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Glad I was wrong! I’ll admit I was wrong, the laser engraved crown being so visible through me for a loop! Wear it in good health!


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Many of the new Subs have it very visible. I returned one because it bothered me being able to see it.
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