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10 May 2011, 03:06 AM | #1 |
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I own some high end watches and some not so high end watches. I am not a watch snob and I have no problem with people wearing an invicta. Whatever floats your boat, why do we care? Rolex doesn't. There are probibly 100 watch makers that make a Submariner "homage" I dont wear a Rolex to shove it in peoples faces so who cares if it looks like an invicta I know what it is and thats what matters to me. I also have no problem wearing a cheap watch. I get a lot of enjoyment out of some watches I own that are cheap. I do own one Invicta its a Cartier Pasha "homage" I have had it for close to ten years and it works just fine. This forum has made me more knowlegable on watches esp. Rolex watches and I was able to detect a customer of mine's Fake Rolex the other day. I have a lot more respect for someone wearing an Invicta than someone who makes pretend they have something else.
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I bought my father an Invicta watch about 2 years ago. It's a quartz movement watch, with a HUGE face. has the chrono pushers, and the crown on the left side of the watch, instead of the right, and a brown strap. Since my father is into all sorts of crazy looking watches, I thought "why not ? ". He loves it, and it's been keeping excellent time (hell, it IS a quartz after all :) ), and has never had any issues with it.
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10 May 2011, 02:46 AM | #5 |
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Invicta has a huge following. I even seen people get "addicted" to buying invictas due to its low entry price point. Most end up selling their collection after a while. I have only 1 invicta, and honestly, its not the worst watch in the world but def not quality made.
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10 May 2011, 01:52 PM | #6 |
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Well, you could pay 20g for a Daytona, or 100$ for an Invicta. Alright, one doesn't have as high a re-sale value but still...
Looking at the difference, you would EXPECT the 100$ package to be some cheap sh!t from China already non-functioning right out the box. But instead you get something that LOOKS to the average person just as nice, and it comes with what... a 5-year warranty at least. Well, it's very hard to find such a lop-sided purchase savings in the real world that doesn't end up as a disaster at your feet. I still remember when I was planning to buy my first thousand-dollar watch, and my mom started to panick that something was the matter with me... |
10 May 2011, 03:41 PM | #7 |
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About Fakes
I have a thing about fake stuff, I won't buy one, because I actually know of a small company where an individual, after several years of work and investment, invented and started producing something really innovative, then someone else bought a couple, sent them off to China to be copied and manufactured, and killed the sales of the originator by selling the stuff for a fraction of what the real thing went for. Because of that, I refuse to personally contribute to the market for fakes, watches, motorcycle accessories, jeans, CDs, software, and almost everything under the sun nowadays, by buying one.
But if the real maker of something doesn't care, and if they're large enough to have the resources to do it but don't sue, then they obviously don't, why should anyone get upset over someone else wearing a fake watch? The only reason I can come up with is that some people wear Rolexes, Breitlings, Cartiers, etc. more to show they have the bucks to buy one than they do because they appreciate the watch. With such folks, the very idea that someone who can only afford a couple hundred bucks for a watch is able to go around wearing what everyone is going to think is, say, a Rolex is terribly disturbing. It's cutting into their exclusivity. I once bought a box full of watches, watch parts, and a few watchmaker tools for about $25, I mainly wanted to see what was in there. And I did find some interesting stuff, like a really old universal case back opener, some NOS Accutron parts, a Litronix LED (NOT LCD) (Litronix was also the source for most, if not all, of those red LED movements in other watch brands back in the day), and a few mechanical movements from the '40s and '50s. I also found a fake Rolex Oyster Perpetual Day Date. It had a dial that I think Rolex never used in a Day Date, so it would have been obvious to someone who knows Rolexes, had a quartz movement, and didn't weigh anything close to what a Day Date really would, but that would only be apparent if one really examined the watch. Not only a fake, but a cheap fake. I'd just taken off my normal wear watch because the crystal was getting a bit too scratched up and it has a fairly hard to find crystal, the fake was nice looking, so I started wearing it. Wore it for about 5 months until I broke the bracelet chainsawing wood one day, then threw it in a drawer. Just now, about 6 months after that, I dug it out, and it's still within one second of being absolutely accurate. If someone thinks some fake looks nice and it keeps good time, why not use it? Who cares, if the real maker doesn't? Yeah, I know some people wear fakes just to make people think they have the real thing, and those guys have even a bigger problem than people who get bent over them doing it. But it's their problem, not mine. |
10 May 2011, 03:47 PM | #8 |
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Which Ones Are "Real"?
With Invicta using some actual Swisss movements, but pushing many (probably most) watches as "hand assembled in Switzerland" when they really only have a few Swiss made parts in them and are assembled in another country altogether, does anyone know which of their watches really do have actual Swiss movements in them? Does anyone know anywhere to get a list of which actual movement is in which Invicta model?
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The project manager of my contract had what looked like a TT Sub. I asked him: "Hey, nice Rolex!!" And he replied with a big smile: "Nah! This is better! It's an Invicta!". To which I politely nodded, dug my left had in my pocket and changed the subject.
Two weeks later we are having a group lunch and I'm clasping my hands while my elbows are on the table and he's sitting straight in front of me. Suddenly he cranes his neck forward and tilts it to the side. It's evident he noticed I wasn't wearing an Invicta. He never wore his "Sub" again.
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13 May 2011, 10:39 AM | #10 |
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Darn it, SOMEONE must know
Someplace, somewhere, there has just got to be a source for which Invicta models have real, complete, Swiss movements in them. You sure can't tell from anything Invicta says, since they obviously want people to think they're All Swiss movements.
I really want to find this info so I can compare their prices and see just how much extra they're charging for the "real" ones. No, I don't have a clue what I'll ever do if I finally figure that out, certainly not buy an Invicta, but it's driving me nuts not knowing. Somebody out there must know where this info can be found. |
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Also, the Swiss make quartz movements, so "swiss made" doesn't make a watch an automatic. |
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21 May 2011, 10:27 AM | #12 |
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All Invicta ever says about the movements in their watches, at least in their official catalog, is "genuine Swiss chronograph" "genuine Swiss 13 jewel" "genuine Swiss quartz", etc. So how is that pretty clear, knowing that if a movement has any Swiss made parts at all in it Invicta calls it Swiss, even when it was assembled in some other country altogether? And as curious as I am about this, I'm not going to go around to retailers with my universal back remover in my pocket and remove the back on every model I can find just to see what's inside.
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21 May 2011, 11:42 AM | #13 |
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I wore one for one (pro diver) for many years in a dirty factory setting.......traveled with it and still kept ticking....... and no band stretch!!!!!!!!!
is it a rolex? heck no! Do not get me wrong.I am Rolex all the way!!!!!!! I am just sayin' ........ where can you get a self wind mechanical for less than $100.00 Did I mention less than $100.00! Mine was $65.00 with the japan movement.....same as the citizen ....... |
21 May 2011, 12:26 PM | #14 |
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IMHO it's better than buying a fake/replica rolex submariner, because it's not claiming to be a rolex.
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15 August 2011, 04:40 AM | #15 |
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I think most of the criticisms against Invicta in this thread are unfair. While Invicta does borrow heavily from other watch designs, so do an awful lot of other companies--Seiko, Citizen, Bulova, Orient, Steinhart, Defaubre, to name but a few.
I've bought three Invictas and have enjoyed them and passed two of them on to others who still enjoy them. I have an 8926OB sitting here on my desk that I bought just a couple of weeks before I bought my first Rolex, the Explorer Z-series, in 2008. Sadly, something in the movement has broken and the watch doesn't work, but when I wind it, the rotor spins at about 9000 RPM, which is fun to watch. For those who can afford only the best, buy what you will, but the vitriol directed at those who buy the lesser copies is misdirected. As long as there is no counterfeiting involved, I think they are legitimate options.
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You know Rolex copied their Submariner design from the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. So, if you wanna go start pointing fingers...
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It's one thing to be influenced -- even heavily influenced -- by a design, another thing to make a copy that looks identical but for the logo. Of course there should be a mechanical watch for every budget but I'd respect Invicta more if they stuck with their own designs.
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I really get a kick out of all the hype about someone wearing a watch that doesn't conform to someone elses ideals. Buy what you like, wear what you like, just wear it in good health.
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Nothing wrong with owning Invicta.
I liked this one and I don't care what people think. I have Rolex, APs, IWCs, Panerais, Breitling, etc. but I also enjoying a nice looking watch even if it's not an expensive one. I picked up this one at Costco for $165.00. It's usually priced at $690.00 so I think I ended up paying what the watch really should've been worth.
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I think a few of the comment here have gone a bit too far... I would like to say that I have accomplished some pretty big goals in my life and by no means do I feel that wearing an invicta is beneath me. I have purchased an invicta to wear as a "beater" to be honest the more I wear it the more I like it.
In no way is it as nice as my DSSD or Breitling "44" I dont pretend it to be either. I dont think Invicta does either. I also think its pretty redicoulius to try and compare the 2 brands. TO EACH his own. You either like them or you dont..for those who do good for you. I look forward to see LaRocca taking pride in his watch. Good for you mate!! You should. I have never seen him try to compare his watch to a sub. He strives to own one. I would imagine that his drive will get him there.. To be honest the negative comments only feed into the stereotype that Rolex watch weares are pretentious, snobby a holes that think there s&%t dont stink... Pretty sad if you ask me....
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I do agree with "to each his own" though, and if you or anyone else likes them, good on you, enjoy them. Don't let me dissuade you from liking them, and I'm not knocking you personally for liking them. But those watches really leave a bad taste in my mouth (2 people in my office have them, and the lack of quality really shines through). That doesn't make me a pretentious snobby a-hole. If anything is "sad," its listening to those phony Aussie or British accented gentlemen hawking them on TV to unsuspecting buyers. I simply like quality things, but that doesn't always mean paying an arm and a leg for them (something I usually try and avoid! ;-)
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Well said and I love that GMT yellow hand Tom.
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my old manager at my last company swears by Invicta. Has like 30 of them Every week this guy would come in with a new one.
Would always give me crap about wearing my Omega PO or Daytona all the time and said he had a different watch each day. Some of them looked pretty cool, just not my style being that big. |
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My boss, who makes easily 4-5 times more than everyone else, has a collection of Invicta's, he loves them; nothing wrong with buying what makes you happy.
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Firstly, notwithstanding that ths is a Rolex forum, I am happy to see people into watches -especially mechanical watches. Good on you Adam, glas to see you here you WIS you!
I ride a Harley and hate when Harley riders look down their noses at other riders on other machines - I'm just glad to see folks riding and enjoying their bikes. I am obviously into Rolex watches; I mean I am here after all and own a handful of them. With that said, I would hope that an AP or PP owner would not look down upon me for owning merely a Rolex. God is no respecter of persons and neither should we. I've got a Seiko Black Monster and love wearing it, as well as several G-Shocks; they are all great. If someone spends $150 and gets a sense of pleasure from that mechanical device strapped (or bracletted [verb?]) to their wrist - more power to them! It's all good. |
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my lexus sales rep has an invicta that looks like a yacht master .... it is a swiss movement, and he loeves it, and it looks good in my opinion .... i wouldnt own one because i prefer Rolex over any other brand on the market
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