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CPTL · 15 February 2010, 04:18 AM

When did the lug holes disappear on the Explorer?

Marco-16610 · 15 February 2010, 05:46 AM

You mean on the Explorer II ? Late Y-series.

CPTL · 15 February 2010, 05:53 AM

No, I'm wondering about the Explorer.

acce1999 · 15 February 2010, 06:09 AM

The lug holes on the 14270 disappeared during the S-serial, ca 1994. Same time as they disappeared on the Datejust 162XX (same case).

So, there are not that many 14270 with lug holes since it was introduced in 1990. Also the first models had the "black out"-dial (with 3,6,9 painted in black rather than white). Those are expensive. I'd say there where only some three years of production of the 14270 with lug holes and the dial we all recognise.

I've been looking for a nice example, with original dial, but they are difficult to find.

Best,

A

Marco-16610 · 15 February 2010, 06:11 AM

CPTL · 15 February 2010, 06:33 AM

Thanks--I had no idea that the holes-case was so rare. That explains why I'm not finding any for sale. Good info.

Quote:

Originally Posted by acce1999

The lug holes on the 14270 disappeared during the S-serial, ca 1994. Same time as they disappeared on the Datejust 162XX (same case).

So, there are not that many 14270 with lug holes since it was introduced in 1990. Also the first models had the "black out"-dial (with 3,6,9 painted in black rather than white). Those are expensive. I'd say there where only some three years of production of the 14270 with lug holes and the dial we all recognise.

I've been looking for a nice example, with original dial, but they are difficult to find.

Best,

A

acce1999 · 15 February 2010, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPTL

Thanks--I had no idea that the holes-case was so rare. That explains why I'm not finding any for sale. Good info.

I know one for sale. Not mine. A bit expensive, and located in Europe... but with box and papers. Drop me a PM if you want a link for it.

Best,

A

CPTL · 15 February 2010, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acce1999

I know one for sale. Not mine. A bit expensive, and located in Europe... but with box and papers. Drop me a PM if you want a link for it.

Best,

A

I want to pay under $2500, but I was hoping for lug holes. Don't think that will fit the bill. Thanks for the info though.

acce1999 · 15 February 2010, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPTL

I want to pay under $2500, but I was hoping for lug holes. Don't think that will fit the bill. Thanks for the info though.

I did find another one with lug holes in a search I just did (check out chrono24.com). Both are advertised at 2600 and 2700 Euros (!) (too much if you ask me).

I hope you find one, and you should, especially if you do not mind non-lug holes.

I have a T-serial 14270, and have had it since new. It is a great watch (no lug holes, though). It is my most accurate Rolex so far.

Best and good luck,

A

15 February 2010, 04:18 AM	#1
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	Explorer Question When did the lug holes disappear on the Explorer? __________________ 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial

15 February 2010, 05:53 AM	#3
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	No, I'm wondering about the Explorer. __________________ 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial

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15 February 2010, 05:46 AM	#2
Marco-16610 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 93	You mean on the Explorer II ? Late Y-series.

15 February 2010, 06:09 AM	#4
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	The lug holes on the 14270 disappeared during the S-serial, ca 1994. Same time as they disappeared on the Datejust 162XX (same case). So, there are not that many 14270 with lug holes since it was introduced in 1990. Also the first models had the "black out"-dial (with 3,6,9 painted in black rather than white). Those are expensive. I'd say there where only some three years of production of the 14270 with lug holes and the dial we all recognise. I've been looking for a nice example, with original dial, but they are difficult to find. Best, A

15 February 2010, 06:11 AM	#5
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