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attic_dude · 27 December 2016, 04:42 PM

It has been almost 10 years since i last posted here. My vintage date just was stolen a few years back and i haven't had the heart to come back. i haven't worn a watch since then.

2017 is just around the corner and I have decided to restore and service my GMT Master (pepsi). But before I do, i was hoping for your opinion on whether i should leave it as all original or have some parts replaced (acrylic, bracelet). I shall have it checked to see if there are any parts in the movement that needs to be replaced, but I also want to have the bracelet and acrylic replaced because there are numerous scratches on the acrylic and the bracelet is showing a lot of stretching already. What do you think guys? May I have your opinions on what to do with the watch? i have enclosed a pic without the bracelet. I will upload more pics when i get home.

218225 · 27 December 2016, 06:49 PM

Sent the bracelet to Michael Young for a service. Do not let him polish it because it will "damage" the crown
New acrylic makes it instantly better.
And glass needs to be replaced when you have it waterproofed again

218225 · 27 December 2016, 06:50 PM

Enjoy it and wear it in good health. It is probably safer around your wrist

TimeToGo · 27 December 2016, 09:33 PM

Look forward to more pictures..

Tom1675 · 28 December 2016, 01:04 AM

Gotta have more pics, like 5 or 10 more.

attic_dude · 28 December 2016, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 218225

Sent the bracelet to Michael Young for a service. Do not let him polish it because it will "damage" the crown
New acrylic makes it instantly better.
And glass needs to be replaced when you have it waterproofed again

Thank you for your input. I will definitely go for a new acrylic. Regarding the bracelet, i was thinking of having it replaced, because there is significant stretching already. But maybe I will consider servicing the bracelet.

When I had the pepsi serviced before, the RSC person did mention something about avoiding getting the watch wet. I plan to go to the RSC next week to get the full scale of servicing needed.

attic_dude · 28 December 2016, 04:04 PM

Yes i am keen to post more pics, just didn't have the time last night since i was out with friends. Is it ok to post the serials? Or should i block a few numbers out?

Pix · 28 December 2016, 11:43 PM

Be careful going to RSC, if they replace any parts you will not get them back. I would look into a trusted service person here on TRF.

Alexwwjd · 29 December 2016, 08:17 AM

Definitely try to keep it as original as possible. Acrylic I'd change it but bracelet should be restored, not replaced (and not polished).

please post more pics.

bf76 · 29 December 2016, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexwwjd

Definitely try to keep it as original as possible. Acrylic I'd change it but bracelet should be restored, not replaced (and not polished).

please post more pics.

My opinion too. Keep it as original as possible.

htbilgic · 29 December 2016, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom1675

Gotta have more pics, like 5 or 10 more.

Agreed.

attic_dude · 29 December 2016, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pix

Be careful going to RSC, if they replace any parts you will not get them back. I would look into a trusted service person here on TRF.

yes i am aware of that, when i opted to change the jubilee bracelet on my date just they never gave me the old bracelet back. i have no idea why. thanks for reminding me.

attic_dude · 29 December 2016, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexwwjd

Definitely try to keep it as original as possible. Acrylic I'd change it but bracelet should be restored, not replaced (and not polished).

please post more pics.

Thank you for your advice. I will opt to have it restored instead.

attic_dude · 29 December 2016, 02:56 PM

Here are a few more pics i took last night. I apologize for the quality since they were taken using an iphone.

attic_dude · 29 December 2016, 02:58 PM

More shots

attic_dude · 29 December 2016, 03:01 PM

Even more shots

attic_dude · 29 December 2016, 03:04 PM

I hope the pics are sufficient so far, here are some more.

attic_dude · 29 December 2016, 03:10 PM

A few more...

Nikita70 · 29 December 2016, 03:15 PM

Keep it as original as possible. Wear it. Great watch. My bracelet on mine is older and in worse shape than yours.

attic_dude · 29 December 2016, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikita70

Keep it as original as possible. Wear it. Great watch. My bracelet on mine is older and in worse shape than yours.

Thank you for your reply. I will take it to RSC next week to see if the watch has parts that need immediate servicing. I think the last time the watch was serviced was 10 years ago.

Exploradori · 29 December 2016, 03:46 PM

What a beauty. Wear it and enjoy it in great health.

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attic_dude · 29 December 2016, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Exploradori

What a beauty. Wear it and enjoy it in great health.

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Thank you for your kind words sir! I will definitely wear it with pride.

Woody · 29 December 2016, 10:04 PM

Great looking GMT - personally I would remove the bracelet and send to RSC as head only with a request that they supply and fit a replacement bracelet as part of the service. I would then just clean-up the old bracelet and keep it with my other documents/box etc.

All the best for 2017.

TimeToGo · 31 December 2016, 07:20 AM

I can't read the partial serial but from the looks, everything has already been replaced if it is a 1966, to include the dial, hands and insert.
At a minimum, do not let them replace the matte dial and hands.. at least there is vintage left there.

attic_dude · 3 January 2017, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

I can't read the partial serial but from the looks, everything has already been replaced if it is a 1966, to include the dial, hands and insert.
At a minimum, do not let them replace the matte dial and hands.. at least there is vintage left there.

I also believe you are correct, I think the watch was serviced before because it has a service record already in the RSC. Plus, the bracelet is of a later model I think. I will take your advice and not have them replace the dial and hands. Thank you.

attic_dude · 3 January 2017, 02:18 PM

The serial is 1.49M.

strafer_kid · 5 January 2017, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexwwjd

Definitely try to keep it as original as possible. Acrylic I'd change it but bracelet should be restored, not replaced (and not polished).

please post more pics.

Good advice - bracelet does not look at all bad.

springer · 5 January 2017, 03:04 AM

Your serial number indicates that you should have a gilt dial on your GMT. The dial has been replaced with a much later, non-gilt Mark IV dial, as well as the other replacement parts.

attic_dude · 6 January 2017, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by springer

Your serial number indicates that you should have a gilt dial on your GMT. The dial has been replaced with a much later, non-gilt Mark IV dial, as well as the other replacement parts.

Good day springer, what does it mean to be a gilt dial? I am certain this was serviced before, probably 10 years ago. I will check the service history when I go to RSC. Is their a difference between the gilt and mark iv dial?

attic_dude · 6 January 2017, 03:16 PM

Would anyone give me an idea how much would a new bracelet cost? the bracelet on the pics i provided is an oyster bracelet i think. would a new oyster bracelet with similar clasp design be north of $ 1k?

5 January 2017, 03:04 AM	#28
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27 December 2016, 06:49 PM	#2
218225 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Netherlands Watch: 1655+216570 Posts: 497	Sent the bracelet to Michael Young for a service. Do not let him polish it because it will "damage" the crown New acrylic makes it instantly better. And glass needs to be replaced when you have it waterproofed again

27 December 2016, 06:50 PM	#3
218225 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Netherlands Watch: 1655+216570 Posts: 497	Enjoy it and wear it in good health. It is probably safer around your wrist

27 December 2016, 09:33 PM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,587	Look forward to more pictures..

28 December 2016, 01:04 AM	#5
Tom1675 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Tom Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,172	Gotta have more pics, like 5 or 10 more.

28 December 2016, 04:04 PM	#7
attic_dude "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wherever I Want Watch: 1675 Posts: 57	Yes i am keen to post more pics, just didn't have the time last night since i was out with friends. Is it ok to post the serials? Or should i block a few numbers out?

28 December 2016, 11:43 PM	#8
Pix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: midwest Watch: SS Datejust Posts: 1,288	Be careful going to RSC, if they replace any parts you will not get them back. I would look into a trusted service person here on TRF.

29 December 2016, 08:17 AM	#9
Alexwwjd "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Texas Watch: Out!!! Posts: 2,352	Definitely try to keep it as original as possible. Acrylic I'd change it but bracelet should be restored, not replaced (and not polished). please post more pics.

29 December 2016, 03:15 PM	#19
Nikita70 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Florida Watch: Rolex 16760 Posts: 181	Keep it as original as possible. Wear it. Great watch. My bracelet on mine is older and in worse shape than yours.

29 December 2016, 03:46 PM	#21
Exploradori "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Frank Location: Bethesda Watch: 214270, 1803 Posts: 399	What a beauty. Wear it and enjoy it in great health. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

29 December 2016, 10:04 PM	#23
Woody "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Africa Posts: 1,119	Great looking GMT - personally I would remove the bracelet and send to RSC as head only with a request that they supply and fit a replacement bracelet as part of the service. I would then just clean-up the old bracelet and keep it with my other documents/box etc. All the best for 2017.

31 December 2016, 07:20 AM	#24
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,587	I can't read the partial serial but from the looks, everything has already been replaced if it is a 1966, to include the dial, hands and insert. At a minimum, do not let them replace the matte dial and hands.. at least there is vintage left there.

3 January 2017, 02:18 PM	#26
attic_dude "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wherever I Want Watch: 1675 Posts: 57	The serial is 1.49M.

6 January 2017, 03:16 PM	#30
attic_dude "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wherever I Want Watch: 1675 Posts: 57	Would anyone give me an idea how much would a new bracelet cost? the bracelet on the pics i provided is an oyster bracelet i think. would a new oyster bracelet with similar clasp design be north of $ 1k?

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