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TimeRookie · 3 January 2017, 01:35 AM

What are anyone's experiences like with the 42mm PO Ti? I guess part of this question is, how much difference is there between the 8500 movement and the 8900 movement as well?
Thanks, your thoughts are appreciated.
Don

RW16610 · 3 January 2017, 04:50 AM

From the reviews I read there didn't seem to be a whole lot of change to the movement other than the certification name / process. The 8500 would be extremely accurate and serve anyone well but they're pushing Master Co-Axial's now.

Titanium is a nice material for a sports watch, especially if you swim or shower in it regularly. It seems more forgiving of smudges etc if you're an OCD obsessed WIS like me.

Haven't actually owned the Planet Ocean in Titanium but I'm sure somebody here does or has and will be more helpful

TimeRookie · 3 January 2017, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RW16610

From the reviews I read there didn't seem to be a whole lot of change to the movement other than the certification name / process. The 8500 would be extremely accurate and serve anyone well but they're pushing Master Co-Axial's now.

Titanium is a nice material for a sports watch, especially if you swim or shower in it regularly. It seems more forgiving of smudges etc if you're an OCD obsessed WIS like me.

Haven't actually owned the Planet Ocean in Titanium but I'm sure somebody here does or has and will be more helpful

Thanks!

wantonebad · 3 January 2017, 07:10 AM

Actually in my experience Titanium is way softer than SS and scuffs far easier than SS.

Patton250 · 3 January 2017, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wantonebad

Actually in my experience Titanium is way softer than SS and scuffs far easier than SS.

That's one of the reasons why I did not get my PO in titanium. That and the fact it feels like you are wearing a toy. So I opted for the new stainless steel version that came out in 2016. I love it. It only loses one second every couple of days.

TimeRookie · 3 January 2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Patton250

That's one of the reasons why I did not get my PO in titanium. That and the fact it feels like you are wearing a toy. So I opted for the new stainless steel version that came out in 2016. I love it. It only loses one second every couple of days.

Great thoughts. I looked at the price of the steel one and I can buy it new for around the same money as a used Ti. I might wander into the AD in a day or two and see what they have. The black stainless PO with the orange numbers looks gorgeous.
Thanks

DCheeta · 3 January 2017, 07:40 PM

I had the Ti PO for a little less than a year. It was extremely comfortable, and was not at all the soft, dull grey titanium that was used 10-20 years ago. It looked like SS, and mine never got a scratch or mark on it.

Ultimately I sold it because of the lack of fine adjustment on the bracelet. I just couldn't get a perfect fit, and that's a big thing to consider when buying. For that reason alone I'd recommend the new 8900 version, either SS or Ti.

The Ti 8500 in blue was a beauty though...

TimeRookie · 3 January 2017, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DCheeta

I had the Ti PO for a little less than a year. It was extremely comfortable, and was not at all the soft, dull grey titanium that was used 10-20 years ago. It looked like SS, and mine never got a scratch or mark on it.

Ultimately I sold it because of the lack of fine adjustment on the bracelet. I just couldn't get a perfect fit, and that's a big thing to consider when buying. For that reason alone I'd recommend the new 8900 version, either SS or Ti.

The Ti 8500 in blue was a beauty though...

Thanks!!

JacksonStone · 4 January 2017, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RW16610

From the reviews I read there didn't seem to be a whole lot of change to the movement other than the certification name / process.

This raises a point I've been mulling over for a while now. Aside from the certification process, is there any physical difference between an 8900 Co-Axial Master Chronometer movement, and a late-generation 8500 Master Co-Axial Chronometer movement? I can't think of what the differences might be. According to Omega's own movement specs on their website, the 8900 doesn't appear to offer anything the 8500 Master didn't: Si14 balance spring; 15k gauss magnetic resistance; twin barrels with a 60-hour power reserve; jumping hour hand; etc. If there is no actual difference in the movement itself, should it have been given a new calibre number? Rolex upped its "Superlative Chronometer" certification process in 2015, but it didn't change calibre numbers. That only seems right, since different quality control procedures don't actually change the movement. I can't help but think Omega is being a tad misleading with all of this...unless I'm missing something.

Thoughts?

RW16610 · 4 January 2017, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

This raises a point I've been mulling over for a while now. Aside from the certification process, is there any physical difference between an 8900 Co-Axial Master Chronometer movement, and a late-generation 8500 Master Co-Axial Chronometer movement? I can't think of what the differences might be. According to Omega's own movement specs on their website, the 8900 doesn't appear to offer anything the 8500 Master didn't: Si14 balance spring; 15k gauss magnetic resistance; twin barrels with a 60-hour power reserve; jumping hour hand; etc. If there is no actual difference in the movement itself, should it have been given a new calibre number? Rolex upped its "Superlative Chronometer" certification process in 2015, but it didn't change calibre numbers. That only seems right, since different quality control procedures don't actually change the movement. I can't help but think Omega is being a tad misleading with all of this...unless I'm missing something.

Thoughts?

Nope, you aren't missing a thing. This is simply another "excuse" to further increase prices. To me the movements preform identically. In fact, if someone put a solid back on and gave you both to wear for a few months, most if not all would have the slightest clue.

In an age where accuracy is more important than ever, they're just trying to put emphasis on that. For me personally, the Master Co-Axial watches do nothing got me. If the Planet Ocean (9300) Chronograph ends up beating the 116710LN GMT Master II for my next purchase, I'll completely overlook the new Master Co-Axial Chrono. One thing I am more fond of though would be the Zro2 glossy dials!

speedmaster73 · 4 January 2017, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DCheeta

I had the Ti PO for a little less than a year. It was extremely comfortable, and was not at all the soft, dull grey titanium that was used 10-20 years ago. It looked like SS, and mine never got a scratch or mark on it.

Ultimately I sold it because of the lack of fine adjustment on the bracelet. I just couldn't get a perfect fit, and that's a big thing to consider when buying. For that reason alone I'd recommend the new 8900 version, either SS or Ti.

The Ti 8500 in blue was a beauty though...

they dont make the master co-axial blue in Ti only steel

KBM · 5 January 2017, 07:44 AM

Does anyone know if the watch gained or lost thickness with the 8500/8900 move?

JacksonStone · 5 January 2017, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kauebm

Does anyone know if the watch gained or lost thickness with the 8500/8900 move?

For what it's worth, a well-known grey market website lists the 43.5mm PO (8900 calibre) as being 16.04mm thick. They list the older-gen 42mm PO (8500 calibre) as being 16.3mm thick.

KBM · 5 January 2017, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

For what it's worth, a well-known grey market website lists the 43.5mm PO (8900 calibre) as being 16.04mm thick. They list the older-gen 42mm PO (8500 calibre) as being 16.3mm thick.

Thank you!

TimeRookie · 5 January 2017, 10:47 AM

I'm afraid to go look at these because I might come home with one. I'm afraid I won't wear it enough to justify the addition. I really like my BLNR and I'm not sure the Omega would get wrist time if I bought one.

sensui · 5 January 2017, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kauebm

Does anyone know if the watch gained or lost thickness with the 8500/8900 move?

I don't remember the exact measurements...but I think it got ever slightly thinner.

DCheeta · 5 January 2017, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by speedmaster73

they dont make the master co-axial blue in Ti only steel

No they don't. I just meant that both the steel and the titanium PO 8900's have the micro-adjustment in the clasp, whichever metal the OP decides on.

JacksonStone · 6 January 2017, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DCheeta

No they don't. I just meant that both the steel and the titanium PO 8900's have the micro-adjustment in the clasp, whichever metal the OP decides on.

Is the micro-adjustment on the PO the same as in the Seamaster 300 clasp?

TimeRookie · 6 January 2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Is the micro-adjustment on the PO the same as in the Seamaster 300 clasp?

Yes I think so. I had a SM300 and the micro adjustment was nice.

randomguy · 12 January 2017, 01:27 PM

Yet to put any noticeable marks on my Lm Ti PO , and I have had it going on a year in April.

outtatime · 12 January 2017, 02:32 PM

I have both the SM300 Titanium and 45mm 8500 PO Titanium. I've had the SM300 for over a year and it looks brand new-I had to get out a loupe to even see any hairlines on the PCLs (I found like 2). It's not a daily wearer, but I'd say easily 1-2x a week for the year.

As far as micro adjustments, the SM300 clasp fits the bracelet perfectly. I bought one for my Ti PO and it's amazeballs. The clasp was just shy of $300 I think from the Boutique.

All FWIW. I used to hate Titanium for reasons listed here, but I've since done a 180. Omega Titanium rocks!

3 January 2017, 01:35 AM	#1
TimeRookie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Don Location: Canada Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 2,190	42mm Titanium Planet Ocean What are anyone's experiences like with the 42mm PO Ti? I guess part of this question is, how much difference is there between the 8500 movement and the 8900 movement as well? Thanks, your thoughts are appreciated. Don __________________ 1988 15053 Rolex Date Two Tone (Grad Present) 116710 GMT Master II BLNR Seiko Prospex LX SNR031 Pelagos 42mm Explorer II 226570

3 January 2017, 07:10 AM	#4
wantonebad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,834	Actually in my experience Titanium is way softer than SS and scuffs far easier than SS. __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

5 January 2017, 10:47 AM	#15
TimeRookie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Don Location: Canada Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 2,190	I'm afraid to go look at these because I might come home with one. I'm afraid I won't wear it enough to justify the addition. I really like my BLNR and I'm not sure the Omega would get wrist time if I bought one. __________________ 1988 15053 Rolex Date Two Tone (Grad Present) 116710 GMT Master II BLNR Seiko Prospex LX SNR031 Pelagos 42mm Explorer II 226570

12 January 2017, 02:32 PM	#21
outtatime "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jon Location: Toledo, OH Watch: Deepsea Posts: 1,136	I have both the SM300 Titanium and 45mm 8500 PO Titanium. I've had the SM300 for over a year and it looks brand new-I had to get out a loupe to even see any hairlines on the PCLs (I found like 2). It's not a daily wearer, but I'd say easily 1-2x a week for the year. As far as micro adjustments, the SM300 clasp fits the bracelet perfectly. I bought one for my Ti PO and it's amazeballs. The clasp was just shy of $300 I think from the Boutique. All FWIW. I used to hate Titanium for reasons listed here, but I've since done a 180. Omega Titanium rocks! __________________ The above represents my opinion. I may be wrong, but that's how I feel. Scratches ≠ "Character"

3 January 2017, 04:50 AM	#2
RW16610 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Rommel Location: Toronto Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 8,970	From the reviews I read there didn't seem to be a whole lot of change to the movement other than the certification name / process. The 8500 would be extremely accurate and serve anyone well but they're pushing Master Co-Axial's now. Titanium is a nice material for a sports watch, especially if you swim or shower in it regularly. It seems more forgiving of smudges etc if you're an OCD obsessed WIS like me. Haven't actually owned the Planet Ocean in Titanium but I'm sure somebody here does or has and will be more helpful

3 January 2017, 07:40 PM	#7
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,180	I had the Ti PO for a little less than a year. It was extremely comfortable, and was not at all the soft, dull grey titanium that was used 10-20 years ago. It looked like SS, and mine never got a scratch or mark on it. Ultimately I sold it because of the lack of fine adjustment on the bracelet. I just couldn't get a perfect fit, and that's a big thing to consider when buying. For that reason alone I'd recommend the new 8900 version, either SS or Ti. The Ti 8500 in blue was a beauty though...

5 January 2017, 07:44 AM	#12
KBM 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,390	Does anyone know if the watch gained or lost thickness with the 8500/8900 move?

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