Incoming: Untouched RED 1680

[colpol]

Beauty but I don't think you can beat the top hat

[autofiend]

Wow. Just stunning. Congrats!

[TimeToGo]

Originally Posted by SubKing

The case was not redone.

I know what an ABC/ LAWW chamfer recut looks like and this one is all factory original.

Yeah..right. Okie dokie..

[Micha]

beautiful piece...

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by swish77

Beautiful!! Congrats! Andrew gets amazing examples.

I've never seen factory chamfers that wide, but that doesn't mean it's been polished. My guess is that maybe there were some slight variations back in the early- mid-'70s. Here's another 1680 said to be unpolished.

Here are 4 different examples from different reputable sources all said to be unpolished and the chamfers are as wide as mine.

The thinner chamfers are the ones I see abc and LAWW doing.

[roll9]

Wow.
That is an absolutely beautiful example. Congratulations big time.

[subtona]

Gorgeous.

[springer]

Originally Posted by swish77

Beautiful!! Congrats! Andrew gets amazing examples.

I've never seen factory chamfers that wide, but that doesn't mean it's been polished. My guess is that maybe there were some slight variations back in the early- mid-'70s. Here's another 1680 said to be unpolished.

I do not know who is calling this watch unpolished Aaron, but I do know for sure that the one photo you posted does not at all indicate that watch is unpolished.

I love these "unpolished" watches with their new-style bracelets.

[superstarmar]

Wow !!! Huge congrats... looks amazing ...

[Stuntpilot]

Crown Guards. All I am gonna say

[SubKing]

People will always have opinions but I feel the pictures speak for themselves. The lugs are too thick to ever have undergone polishing. Everything else on the watch like the dial the insert even the bezel are all as crisp as the case. This watch has never been polished, I have owned enough pieces to know what a re cut case looks like..

[TimeToGo]

Originally Posted by SubKing

People will always have opinions but I feel the pictures speak for themselves. The lugs are too thick to ever have undergone polishing. Everything else on the watch like the dial the insert even the bezel are all as crisp as the case. This watch has never been polished, I have owned enough pieces to know what a re cut case looks like..

You have a fine example of piece there but your statement...is PRICELESS...
on black and white..

[Boaters]

WOW I really like the Top Hat but the Superdome totally top shelf!

[Kingface66]

Tough room

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

Tough room

Yeah, for sure. Now I know why many collectors say they don't like to share their pieces on here anymore. Takes all the fun out of it for sure

[Sagee]

Congrats! Stunning example

[japenney]

nice to see a sweet vintage incoming!

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by SubKing

Yeah, for sure. Now I know why many collectors say they don't like to share their pieces on here anymore. Takes all the fun out of it for sure

I hope you post a pic of that beauty in the "everyday is vintage day" thread, every time you wear it!! It's an awesome Red Sub!

[007Sub]

Originally Posted by SubKing

Here are 4 different examples from different reputable sources all said to be unpolished and the chamfers are as wide as mine.

The thinner chamfers are the ones I see abc and LAWW doing.

Absolutely true. Late 60s early 70s had a lot of very wide chamfers. I have an unpolished mk4 red and the beveled edges are very much the same as yours just not as pronounced. True there was variation from watch to watch back then as they were hand cut. All in all, I do believe this is an extraordinary example you have there. Also Andrew is a very knowledgeable and honest seller. Too many "experts" out there that have to put their 2 cents in, that have probably never even held an unpolished vintage sub

In any case, congrats on the buy and enjoy this watch in good health!

[007Sub]

For what its worth, this watch was purchased from original owner. Never polished but well worn. As you can see bevels quite prominent. Now I just need to get an NOS T127 to put on it!

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by 007Sub

Absolutely true. Late 60s early 70s had a lot of very wide chamfers. I have an unpolished mk4 red and the beveled edges are very much the same as yours just not as pronounced. True there was variation from watch to watch back then as they were hand cut. All in all, I do believe this is an extraordinary example you have there. Also Andrew is a very knowledgeable and honest seller. Too many "experts" out there that have to put their 2 cents in, that have probably never even held an unpolished vintage sub

In any case, congrats on the buy and enjoy this watch in good health!

Thank you for the back up and for the nice words. Andrew has no reason to lie to me. If he says this watch is un-touched, I believe him and I also believe it when I look at this piece in the flesh. Typical forum drama. It is a fact that because of reasons like these, many serious collectors have told me they don't post here anymore when they get new pieces. I think I finally learned my lesson.

Thanks again for your help.

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by 007Sub

For what its worth, this watch was purchased from original owner. Never polished but well worn. As you can see bevels quite prominent. Now I just need to get an NOS T127 to put on it!

Killer piece and nice chamfers!

[007Sub]

Originally Posted by SubKing

Thank you for the back up and for the nice words. Andrew has no reason to lie to me. If he says this watch is in-touched, I believe him and I also believe it when I look at this piece in the flesh. Typical forum drama. It is a fact that because of reasons like these, many serious collectors have told me they don't post here anymore when they get new pieces. I think I finally learned my lesson.

Thanks again for your help.

Originally Posted by SubKing

Killer piece and nice chamfers!

Thanks buddy. I totally hear you and I've not been as active as I once was.... but there are still plenty of great folks on here so its nice to share the passion nonetheless. Thanks for sharing your new watch with us! Again congrats!

[Michael M.]

Congrats! Unarguably a beautiful example in all respects.

[JerimiahLee]

Looks nice. For reference here is a single owner example that was likely untouched.




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[El Cascarrabias]

SubKing, ignore the flak and continue to post.



That superdome is just incredible!

[Dries]

Beautiful red Sub :thumbs:
Big congrats

[blueatlantic]

Beautiful 1680 in awesome condition!

[Urosfan]

Congrats

[CaveDiver]

Originally Posted by SubKing

Thank you for the back up and for the nice words. Andrew has no reason to lie to me. If he says this watch is un-touched, I believe him and I also believe it when I look at this piece in the flesh. Typical forum drama. It is a fact that because of reasons like these, many serious collectors have told me they don't post here anymore when they get new pieces. I think I finally learned my lesson.

Thanks again for your help.

Sweet watch. Enjoy.

Did Andrew say the watch was unpolished or untouched? To me there is a big difference between unpolished and untouched.