Patek Philippe introduces the 2024 Only Watch 6301A

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

2) We can’t keep the same beautiful enamel dial, that’s the same as the regular production model! what’s something better than that ? Oh wait we just came out with our best enamel dial yet in the 5168g? Let’s stick that in there
3) Wait , the dial is the exact same as the 5168g, what’s special about that? Both models have breguet numerals. Oh yeah let’s stick some baguette diamonds on, write ‘only one’ like we did in 2019 and now it’s different!

It's 5178G, not 5168G. The small difference of 10 made a world of difference.

[eggonawindow]

Accidentally typed the wrong reference. The fact that you knew which reference I was actually talking about proves my point that true connoisseurs know this is an a + b = c watch. As far as the interior angles - sure there’s a few. But regardless I think we can agree it’s nowhere near good enough.
As an aside, pateks recent price increases and increased margin should be reinvested in finishing and movement quality.
Let me ask you this ? If you are so confident in the superiority of Pateks minute repeaters, why did you not buy one when given the chance?

Eggonawindow

[eggonawindow]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

It's 5178G, not 5168G. The small difference of 10 made a world of difference.

You decided to buy a three hander instead of a minute repeater. That tells me everything I have to know about your knowledge and taste in watches. Despite my constructive criticism over this Only Watch piece, choosing a 3 hander over a Patek minute repeater is about as disrespectful as it gets to Patek (despite the whole , ‘my wallet my choice’). Patek’s minute repeaters are currently amongst greatest watches in the world and deserve to be critiqued with that in mind

Eggonawindow

[Watchdoyouwant?]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

You decided to buy a three hander instead of a minute repeater. That tells me everything I have to know about your knowledge and taste in watches. Despite my constructive criticism over this Only Watch piece, choosing a 3 hander over a Patek minute repeater is about as disrespectful as it gets to Patek (despite the whole , ‘my wallet my choice’). Patek’s minute repeaters are currently amongst greatest watches in the world and deserve to be critiqued with that in mind

Eggonawindow

Are you trolling? You sound like you're trolling.

Are you really saying not buying a MR is "about as disrespectful as it gets" but suggesting that Patek "spent five minutes" on the 6301A is "constructive" criticism? Really?

Of course Patek combined elements of different models into the 6301A. A new case material and dial is pretty normal for a Watches and Wonders submission.

[eggonawindow]

Originally Posted by Watchdoyouwant?

Are you trolling? You sound like you're trolling.

Are you really saying not buying a MR is "about as disrespectful as it gets" but suggesting that Patek "spent five minutes" on the 6301A is "constructive" criticism? Really?

Of course Patek combined elements of different models into the 6301A. A new case material and dial is pretty normal for a Watches and Wonders submission.

Yes indeed I am because the gentleman in question is buying a 3 hander for 20% more money than a MR. We all know the 3 hander in question is Phillipe Dufour Simplicity.
Why buy a Phillipe dufour time only over a Patek minute repeater? It’s evident reasons such as hand finishing (hand done guilloche dials, handworked anglage) come into play because a minute repeater is leagues above a 3 hander. Yet when I mention those factors, he suddenly doesn’t care about them.
Dont get me wrong , I love Patek minute repeaters. In fact, the 6301P is my favourite. Hence why I criticise the 6301A because I feel that there is 0 innovation in neither the dial nor the movement .
Whats ironic is the 6301P is a play on Phillipe Dufours grande and petite sonnerie. I would advise you and the gentleman in question to read up about them (there are only 8 in the world). Then come back to me and tell me how good the 6301A is.
You know what I think should’ve been released as a unique piece? A version of the 5308P. What a watch. That is Patek at its best - split seconds perpetual calendar chronograph minute repeater . Not copying dufours designs and changing dials .
Why did Patek not invent the grand and petite sonnerie? It could’ve . Now it has the opportunity to go further with a 3rd sonnerie for minute chimes.

Eggonawindow

[Watchdoyouwant?]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

Yes indeed I am because the gentleman in question is buying a 3 hander for 20% more money than a MR. We all know the 3 hander in question is Phillipe Dufour Simplicity.
Why buy a Phillipe dufour time only over a Patek minute repeater? It’s evident reasons such as hand finishing (hand done guilloche dials, handworked anglage) come into play because a minute repeater is leagues above a 3 hander. Yet when I mention those factors, he suddenly doesn’t care about them.
Dont get me wrong , I love Patek minute repeaters. In fact, the 6301P is my favourite. Hence why I criticise the 6301A because I feel that there is 0 innovation in neither the dial nor the movement .
Whats ironic is the 6301P is a play on Phillipe Dufours grande and petite sonnerie. I would advise you and the gentleman in question to read up about them (there are only 8 in the world). Then come back to me and tell me how good the 6301A is.
You know what I think should’ve been released as a unique piece? A version of the 5308P. What a watch. That is Patek at its best - split seconds perpetual calendar chronograph minute repeater . Not copying dufours designs and changing dials .
Why did Patek not invent the grand and petite sonnerie? It could’ve . Now it has the opportunity to go further with a 3rd sonnerie for minute chimes.

Eggonawindow

If Patek came back with a one off 5308, I somehow suspect you would be complaining that this release is too similar to what Patek did in 2017 when it offered the 5208T--which had the same movement at the 5208P--just with a different dial and titanium case.

[eggonawindow]

Originally Posted by Watchdoyouwant?

If Patek came back with a one off 5308, I somehow suspect you would be complaining that this release is too similar to what Patek did in 2017 when it offered the 5208T--which had the same movement at the 5208P--just with a different dial and titanium case.

Whataboutery. You had nothing to say against my (objectively and subjectively) correct post.
Time to swallow your pride and see the world as it really is

[Watchdoyouwant?]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

Whataboutery. You had nothing to say against my (objectively and subjectively) correct post.
Time to swallow your pride and see the world as it really is

And I'm now even more confident you're trolling. You say Patek should have released a version of the 5308P. Fine. What's a version if not a different dial and case?

Did you or did you not approve of the 5208T when it was "just" a different version of the 5208P with "only" a different dial and case material? "Zero innovation" as you would put it.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

Yes indeed I am because the gentleman in question is buying a 3 hander for 20% more money than a MR. We all know the 3 hander in question is Phillipe Dufour Simplicity.
Why buy a Phillipe dufour time only over a Patek minute repeater? It’s evident reasons such as hand finishing (hand done guilloche dials, handworked anglage) come into play because a minute repeater is leagues above a 3 hander. Yet when I mention those factors, he suddenly doesn’t care about them.
Dont get me wrong , I love Patek minute repeaters. In fact, the 6301P is my favourite. Hence why I criticise the 6301A because I feel that there is 0 innovation in neither the dial nor the movement .
Whats ironic is the 6301P is a play on Phillipe Dufours grande and petite sonnerie. I would advise you and the gentleman in question to read up about them (there are only 8 in the world). Then come back to me and tell me how good the 6301A is.
You know what I think should’ve been released as a unique piece? A version of the 5308P. What a watch. That is Patek at its best - split seconds perpetual calendar chronograph minute repeater . Not copying dufours designs and changing dials .
Why did Patek not invent the grand and petite sonnerie? It could’ve . Now it has the opportunity to go further with a 3rd sonnerie for minute chimes.

Eggonawindow

What do you mean?

[value.target]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

You decided to buy a three hander instead of a minute repeater. That tells me everything I have to know about your knowledge and taste in watches. Despite my constructive criticism over this Only Watch piece, choosing a 3 hander over a Patek minute repeater is about as disrespectful as it gets to Patek (despite the whole , ‘my wallet my choice’). Patek’s minute repeaters are currently amongst greatest watches in the world and deserve to be critiqued with that in mind

Eggonawindow

Wow!