SCAMMED for 116500LN In Marketplace - WATCH OUT for Jizzle01

[Paris92]

What an interesting read. Congrats for the lucky ending here.

[Frakis]

Wow!! This is a great ending to a horrible situation. I’m happy to hear you received the funds back. I wish you the best on your Daytona search!!

[pallindrome]

That must have been 1 of the longest 36 hours of your life! I'm glad you're back to where you were financially. All the best for your next purchase & hopefully it works well for you!

[datejustrms]

Great news!

[Fire bloke]

Pleased it's sorted..this should be a lesson for all

[Jamesgraham91]

Sorry to hear about this. I hope you get your money back.

[pjjames916]

This guy is at it again - Xamy is the new name and below is the post. Watch out guys! I will post a separate thread as well. I also contacted a moderator regarding it but haven't heard back. Most likely they'll have him do a stop check and post the watch with time set, but they did this before with a Daytona and so he obviously has the watches in his possession...or someone he's working with does. I'd be curious to see if someone here who is more tuned in to how this is done could pull the location info from the photo's through the metadata? Not sure if it's possible...

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ghlight=114060

[pjjames916]

I also found out through my bank and Wells Fargo that the only saving grace with regards to my money being returned is that he gave me the wrong beneficiary address and therefore Wells Fargo rejected the wire. Had that been correct it would have gone through without issue. Also, the name the guy is using to communicate is Eric Fluger.

[62396241]

This is worrying. I can’t believe we don’t have a 100 post requirement to list watches up to $5000 or less a 350 post requirement up to $10,000 and 750 post requirement for watches over $15,000


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[EEpro]

Originally Posted by 62396241

This is worrying. I can’t believe we don’t have a 100 post requirement to list watches up to $5000 or less a 350 post requirement up to $10,000 and 750 post requirement for watches over $15,000


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I don't think post counts correlate to honesty. How about a credit check with full social security etc. just like employers or landlords do for a background check. We pay the $50 fees.

[Jim Smyth]

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[mailman]

Originally Posted by EEpro

I don't think post counts correlate to honesty. How about a credit check with full social security etc. just like employers or landlords do for a background check. We pay the $50 fees.

Great idea! We'll set up a separate section and call it Rollifax and it will do nothing but give out and post member's credit scores. We'll link up with the Social Security Dept so they can willingly hand over a member's SSN. How about TRF just go ahead and post those too. Might as well just go ahead and post member's addresses with pictures of their houses and families too. I'm sure there has to be someone who wants to volunteer 24/7 to moderate the section too.

It's all so simple and it's been said 10,000 before.


Buy...the...seller. Period.


OP, I'm glad your money was returned to you.

[Jim Smyth]

To be honest I see both sides of this problem. I do buy the seller and do it in person so there's no surprises later. But with all the scams there seems there should be a better way to protect those that dont buy the seller which are normally newer people.

Has the powers to be every considered making it a little more difficult to sell? Meaning more post counts would be a way to make it harder and more time consuming for a scam/seller to set up shop? Or a time interval with a year or so waiting period? There has to be a way to make it more difficult for a scammer while not making it more work for the mods. There's plenty of selling venues for those that cant wait.

I hate thieves and it seems this forum has a lot of them and they thrive here. I couldnt imagine forking over 10K after saving my whole life, being excited to get my first Rolex grail only to find out I sent my money to a thief. Would take the wind right out of my sail and make me never trust anyone or want to get into watches again.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by mailman

Great idea! We'll set up a separate section and call it Rollifax and it will do nothing but give out and post member's credit scores. We'll link up with the Social Security Dept so they can willingly hand over a member's SSN. How about TRF just go ahead and post those too. Might as well just go ahead and post member's addresses with pictures of their houses and families too. I'm sure there has to be someone who wants to volunteer 24/7 to moderate the section too.

It's all so simple and it's been said 10,000 before.


Buy...the...seller. Period.


OP, I'm glad your money was returned to you.

That's a bit dramatic. A credit or criminal check to allow your account to sell $10K devices with no commission does not warrant this overblown slippery slope nonsense.

[mailman]

Originally Posted by EEpro

That's a bit dramatic. A credit or criminal check to allow your account to sell $10K devices with no commission does not warrant this overblown slippery slope nonsense.

Asking TRF do do your due diligence is a bit dramatic? Sure, TRF will set up a credit check and a back round check business to verify sellers for people who are too lazy to do their own homework. Not to mention it probably would be a full time job for someone. TRF doesn't sell watches. Individuals do. People send their own money on their own free will. We don't force anyone to do anything. Is it a slippery slope? Sure. Do your homework. Buy from the handful of longtime established members and no one will have a problem. Asking TRF to do a criminal and credit check is ridiculous

Did anyone trademark Rollifax yet?

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by EEpro

That's a bit dramatic. A credit or criminal check to allow your account to sell $10K devices with no commission does not warrant this overblown slippery slope nonsense.

The idea of a credit and criminal check is fair enough.

A potential purchaser of an item could approach the potential seller and they could go about their business in this fashion.

Doesn't affect us mods, though it strikes me that the member who performs zero due-dilligence is hardly going to change his ways because it's a good idea.

If, on the other hand you are suggesting that TRF mods perform this as a service, then my buddy Mailman has said it already.

[Wmesallem]

Originally Posted by EEpro

I don't think post counts correlate to honesty. How about a credit check with full social security etc. just like employers or landlords do for a background check. We pay the $50 fees.

All the infrastructure exists. It’s called PayPal. Just follow these steps.

1) make sure both parties are verified
2) make sure seller issues buyer an invoice through PayPal’s system.
3) buyer pays seller.
4) Seller takes the 3 percent hit. Both you have protection.
5) seller ships.
6) nothing arrives or something fake arrives, buyer gets his money back.

PayPal has saved my butt on a watch deal 4 years ago for a grand carrera. If we are not meeting in person, then pay the 3 percent.


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[Baco Noir]

Originally Posted by Wmesallem

All the infrastructure exists. It’s called PayPal. Just follow these steps.

1) make sure both parties are verified
2) make sure seller issues buyer an invoice through PayPal’s system.
3) buyer pays seller.
4) Seller takes the 3 percent hit. Both you have protection.
5) seller ships.
6) nothing arrives or something fake arrives, buyer gets his money back.

PayPal has saved my butt on a watch deal 4 years ago for a grand carrera. If we are not meeting in person, then pay the 3 percent.


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It’s a dangerous proposition for the seller though. Buyers have up to 6 months to complain something was wrong and PP will side with them most of the time.

[Wmesallem]

Originally Posted by Baco Noir

It’s a dangerous proposition for the seller though. Buyers have up to 6 months to complain something was wrong and PP will side with them most of the time.

Not if every single precaution is taken, you can
Minimize the risk. That includes takeoff photos and videos of packaging, model numbers, serial number, etc.

To be honest, you’re right. There is a risk. But the risk is lower then just a straight wire. Plus as the seller you can still sue PayPal if they don’t side with you.

Other than that, in person is the only way.


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[MT_Timepieces]

Call your bank and his bank and report it as fraud. If the funds are still in his account they might be able to freeze it for you and revert the transaction. Also make a police report for paper trail.

Hope it works out for you!

[Bizcut1]

I'm in favor of TRF exploring a partnership / agreement with Chrono24 or another like service and establishing a protocol involving a safe and secure escrow process.

Go ahead and sub-brand it as a service here and charge for it. It can be done.

Ben

[mailman]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

I'm in favor of TRF exploring a partnership / agreement with Chrono24 or another like service and establishing a protocol involving a safe and secure escrow process.

Go ahead and sub-brand it as a service here and charge for it. It can be done.

Ben

TRF doesn't sell watches.

[BigJack]

Amazing news..Thank Goodness you got funds back.