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motomc1 · 1 November 2009, 04:46 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-TUDOR-SUBM...item414a2e4a45

datejust1 · 1 November 2009, 04:49 AM

I see nothing wrong with it... what's fake about it?

motomc1 · 1 November 2009, 04:55 AM

Model# layout? BOTH COMPLETELY WRONG

datejust1 · 1 November 2009, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motomc1

Model# layout? BOTH COMPLETELY WRONG

oh... Lol, I'm not a Tudor expert...

officinem · 1 November 2009, 05:01 AM

The box is new rolex made.
Bracelet aftermarket
case is polished
Ref Number: 7016/0 exists, i have one!
Serial number is also okay
caseback is polished
Inlay is refinished and dial and hands are genuine!

Where is here a fake?????

The inlays changed by about 40% from the 7016/0 OR 9411 ´S

I´m sorry for my bad english .

motomc1 · 1 November 2009, 05:05 AM

Here's a picture of the correct model# layout. Dial is ABSOLUTELY FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are no 7016/0 Tudor subs with SWISS-T<25 below 6 o'clock!!!

officinem · 1 November 2009, 05:07 AM

there are different layouts between the years!

motomc1 · 1 November 2009, 05:16 AM

nt

stevemulholland3 · 1 November 2009, 05:16 AM

have you learned nothing on tudors in this section?
I have posted about this particular fake tudor for years!
it has the widely known fake serial number..the crown guards are the wrong style for that dial (they should be semi-pointed crown guards),the dial is a blatant fake,even a blind rodent could see that it has the swiss T<25 at the bottom not to mention the obvious font flaws,etc..
this is one of the well known fakes and should be avouded at all cost..
and officinem,if your 7016/0 has that dial style then you need to have your checked out as well(especially if its the same serial number..lol)

motomc1 · 1 November 2009, 05:26 AM

unaware.

Evergreen · 1 November 2009, 07:08 AM

Fake-

Looks like this seller has done the same with another Rolex in the past.

idk01 · 1 November 2009, 06:46 PM

Motomc1, that is an excellent catch, and even better news on the seller axing the auction, you have help save some poor unsuspecting buyer the loss of hard earned cash.

Steve is spot on, these have been discussed many times, and thanks to you and your encyclopedic knowledge these will be found and send to the proverbial can.

Well done

blaine mattison · 2 November 2009, 01:05 AM

gosh darn-it, it looks like i missed the party!!!!!!

those 737768 serial number need to be burned.

anyone would like to bet how the rotor is signed?
montres tudor s.a. geneva

blaine mattison · 2 November 2009, 03:31 AM

this watch has been been reposted

BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

280417775314 ebay

r.l.x · 2 November 2009, 03:36 AM

Its an bad fake!

motomc1 · 2 November 2009, 03:48 AM

mistake....HE THEN SHOWS US HIS TRUE "DISHONEST COLORS"!

blaine mattison · 2 November 2009, 04:13 AM

moto, what would you suggest we do??????

stevemulholland3 · 2 November 2009, 04:51 AM

burn him!
digitally at least

blaine mattison · 2 November 2009, 09:24 AM

incredible, it has returned!!!!!!!!!
280417961020 ebay

onkyo · 2 November 2009, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaine mattison

incredible, it has returned!!!!!!!!!
280417961020 ebay

he needs to be banned.

Dave S · 2 November 2009, 10:15 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

springer · 2 November 2009, 10:47 AM

Another ebayer with a criminal mind. I am shocked. Truly shocked. Since he now knows that it is counterfeit, he is committing fraud. But that has never stopped a criminal before, which is exactly what he is...a criminal.

idk01 · 2 November 2009, 08:48 PM

Gone

springer · 3 November 2009, 12:06 PM

...

1 November 2009, 04:46 AM	#1
motomc1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,759	Fake Tudor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-TUDOR-SUBM...item414a2e4a45

1 November 2009, 04:55 AM	#3
motomc1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,759	Are you kidding? ....SWISS-T<25 below 6 o'clock?... Model# layout? BOTH COMPLETELY WRONG

1 November 2009, 05:16 AM	#8
motomc1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,759	Wrong! nt nt

1 November 2009, 05:26 AM	#10
motomc1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,759	I talked to the owner. He cancelled the auction as he was... unaware.

1 November 2009, 06:46 PM	#12
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Motomc1, that is an excellent catch, and even better news on the seller axing the auction, you have help save some poor unsuspecting buyer the loss of hard earned cash. Steve is spot on, these have been discussed many times, and thanks to you and your encyclopedic knowledge these will be found and send to the proverbial can. Well done __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

1 November 2009, 04:49 AM	#2
datejust1 Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: G Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 6,042	I see nothing wrong with it... what's fake about it?

1 November 2009, 05:01 AM	#5
officinem "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3	The box is new rolex made. Bracelet aftermarket case is polished Ref Number: 7016/0 exists, i have one! Serial number is also okay caseback is polished Inlay is refinished and dial and hands are genuine! Where is here a fake????? The inlays changed by about 40% from the 7016/0 OR 9411 ´S I´m sorry for my bad english .

1 November 2009, 05:07 AM	#7
officinem "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3	there are different layouts between the years!

1 November 2009, 05:16 AM	#9
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,673	have you learned nothing on tudors in this section? I have posted about this particular fake tudor for years! it has the widely known fake serial number..the crown guards are the wrong style for that dial (they should be semi-pointed crown guards),the dial is a blatant fake,even a blind rodent could see that it has the swiss T<25 at the bottom not to mention the obvious font flaws,etc.. this is one of the well known fakes and should be avouded at all cost.. and officinem,if your 7016/0 has that dial style then you need to have your checked out as well(especially if its the same serial number..lol)

1 November 2009, 07:08 AM	#11
Evergreen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W. Washington Watch: Blancpain FF norad Posts: 203	Fake- Looks like this seller has done the same with another Rolex in the past.

2 November 2009, 01:05 AM	#13
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	gosh darn-it, it looks like i missed the party!!!!!! those 737768 serial number need to be burned. anyone would like to bet how the rotor is signed? montres tudor s.a. geneva

2 November 2009, 03:31 AM	#14
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	this watch has been been reposted BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 280417775314 ebay

2 November 2009, 03:36 AM	#15
r.l.x Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Rolex 6265 Posts: 148	Its an bad fake!

2 November 2009, 03:48 AM	#16
motomc1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,759	Just when you give the seller the benefit of the doubt...that he made an honest .. mistake....HE THEN SHOWS US HIS TRUE "DISHONEST COLORS"!

2 November 2009, 04:13 AM	#17
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	moto, what would you suggest we do??????

2 November 2009, 04:51 AM	#18
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,673	burn him! digitally at least

2 November 2009, 09:24 AM	#19
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	incredible, it has returned!!!!!!!!! 280417961020 ebay

2 November 2009, 10:15 AM	#21
Dave S Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brisbane, Aust Posts: 3,431	Link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

2 November 2009, 10:47 AM	#22
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,193	Another ebayer with a criminal mind. I am shocked. Truly shocked. Since he now knows that it is counterfeit, he is committing fraud. But that has never stopped a criminal before, which is exactly what he is...a criminal. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

2 November 2009, 08:48 PM	#23
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Gone __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

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