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Old 17 January 2017, 03:24 AM   #1
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Rolex gmt all red hand help

Is this red hand oem? There are so many reproduced ones out there I just want to be sure. Thank you all!
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Old 17 January 2017, 03:25 AM   #2
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Old 17 January 2017, 09:41 AM   #3
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Old 17 January 2017, 09:55 AM   #4
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I'm far from an expert but close up pics of the sides and the back of the arrow head portion would be helpful.
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Old 17 January 2017, 10:48 AM   #5
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Old 17 January 2017, 10:59 AM   #6
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Old 17 January 2017, 11:02 AM   #7
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Is this red hand oem?
Just one guy's opinion, but I'd say no.

Compared to the ones that are supposedly confirmed as OEM (which some still contest), that one above appears a bit off.
The paint looks lumpy and less uniform, as well as too thick, and the lume is a bit sloppy (running over the edge), IMO.

Unfortunately (as you hinted), I think many/most of them being sold out there are not OEM. Some would even say that none of them are OEM.
The topic is probably only slightly less controversial than the debate over the OEM originality of the blue bezels.
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Old 27 January 2017, 10:25 AM   #8
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Here's my GMT, Circa. 1965/66, I think - Serial number 1,2XX,XXX.
I have a generic bezel insert on it, since I wear it a lot. (I have the original insert put away.)
This watch has the all-red hand, and since I can trace the provenance of the watch back to it's near-beginnings, I'm confident that there were at least a few red-handed GMTs. In the late 70's, (and well before my time) the lume was rather poorly repainted, which really bums me out. Someday, I'll find a vintage dial...
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Old 27 January 2017, 09:00 PM   #9
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I donīt tink, that it is original......
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Old 27 January 2017, 09:04 PM   #10
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I donīt tink, that it is original......
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Old 27 January 2017, 11:21 PM   #11
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I love a good all-red thread for the sheer comic value. The GMT above was refinished by a 4 year old and apparently there a SL all reds out there too. Nice.
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Old 28 January 2017, 12:50 AM   #12
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No, not original. Lume has been redone and paint coating/consistency looks typical of the reproduced examples being sold on eBay, etc...
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Old 28 January 2017, 03:14 AM   #13
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Well, you guys are absolutely the experts.
Like I said, though - I know the provenance.
My grandfather had the lume redone locally sometime in the early 80's I guess, which kills me. The dial wasn't refinished, though, except for that.
The watch went in for service in the mid-seventies, so I guess it's possible that the hands were swapped at that point.
That said, though - TimeToGo, what parts do you feel are not original? (Outside of the bezel and crystal - Both of which are "placeholders", since I have the originals put away to save wear and tear...
Again - You guys are the experts, so I would love to hear your thoughts.
Details - Caliber is 1675, and Ser. is 1,26x,xxx
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Old 28 January 2017, 07:10 AM   #14
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Well, you guys are absolutely the experts.
Like I said, though - I know the provenance.
My grandfather had the lume redone locally sometime in the early 80's I guess, which kills me. The dial wasn't refinished, though, except for that.
The watch went in for service in the mid-seventies, so I guess it's possible that the hands were swapped at that point.
That said, though - TimeToGo, what parts do you feel are not original? (Outside of the bezel and crystal - Both of which are "placeholders", since I have the originals put away to save wear and tear...
Again - You guys are the experts, so I would love to hear your thoughts.
Details - Caliber is 1675, and Ser. is 1,26x,xxx
Hey R,
prior to this posting being approved by the mods, we shared a couple of PMs and information shared...
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Old 28 January 2017, 09:08 AM   #15
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Well, you guys are absolutely the experts.
Like I said, though - I know the provenance.
My grandfather had the lume redone locally sometime in the early 80's I guess, which kills me. The dial wasn't refinished, though, except for that.
The watch went in for service in the mid-seventies, so I guess it's possible that the hands were swapped at that point.
That said, though - TimeToGo, what parts do you feel are not original? (Outside of the bezel and crystal - Both of which are "placeholders", since I have the originals put away to save wear and tear...
Again - You guys are the experts, so I would love to hear your thoughts.
Details - Caliber is 1675, and Ser. is 1,26x,xxx
I would source a correct, or original Rolex bezel insert - the one on your watch is aftermarket.
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Old 28 January 2017, 09:31 AM   #16
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I have the original - I mentioned above that since I wear this almost daily, I have the original put away to avoid wear and tear - This one is a "body double".
Thanks for commenting. New at this, but love Rolexes.
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Old 28 January 2017, 11:04 AM   #17
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Just for kicks - Not my watch but same dial/all red hand.
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Old 28 January 2017, 12:53 PM   #18
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Just for kicks - Not my watch but same dial/all red hand.
Nice piece, but dial is different (yours is radial, that one is not). Also, I could be wrong, but given the gilt hour/minutue/second hands, but non-gilt big-arrow GMT hand, I'd say it's another "all red" franken.
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Old 28 January 2017, 02:02 PM   #19
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man, this is confusing.
I thought radial dials were offered in the late 70's. If mine has a radial dial, then that means the dial, and possibly the hands were swapped when it went in for service, right?
Except the dial is gilt, and I thought that by the late 70's, the dials were matte, and printing was white...
My head is spinning.
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Old 28 January 2017, 03:36 PM   #20
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man, this is confusing.
I thought radial dials were offered in the late 70's. If mine has a radial dial, then that means the dial, and possibly the hands were swapped when it went in for service, right?
Except the dial is gilt, and I thought that by the late 70's, the dials were matte, and printing was white...
My head is spinning.
Just curious, since their seems to be a lot of confusion with many incorrect comments regarding vintage Rolex being posted here and elsewhere lately - where did you see information that indicated radial dialed GMTs were from the late 1970s?
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Old 29 January 2017, 12:31 AM   #21
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somewhere on this forum. I will find and post.
Thanks for the help you guys are offering, btw - I appreciate it.
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Old 29 January 2017, 12:34 AM   #22
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Here's the thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=152734

At one point a moderator says "They were a late 70's offering. I've always thought they looked pretty cool."

And they do look cool.
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Old 29 January 2017, 01:53 AM   #23
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Michael has helped me clear things up, but this is the thread to which I was referring:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=152734
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, gang - Sincerely appreciate it.
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Old 29 January 2017, 03:30 AM   #24
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Here's the thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=152734

At one point a moderator says "They were a late 70's offering. I've always thought they looked pretty cool."

And they do look cool.
Late 70s to me would be 78-79, which is not within range for the radial dials.
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