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5 May 2010, 12:07 AM | #1 |
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GMT help ASAP!!
I need help from the GMT Master gurus. I have been searching for a GMT Master II coke for a while. Finally found a 16710 for a fair price from interwatches. I received it this morning and am very confused at what I have. It appears that it is a 16710 with a GMT Master face? It does not say GMT Master II. It just says GMT Master. It also just says Swiss on the bottom, not Swiss Made. When they sent me pictures of the watch before I bought, I did notice that it just said Swiss, but not that it only said GMT Master and not GMT Master II.
So my question is, what did I just buy? The watch is in great shape and I love the look of it, but did I just get scammed? The do have a 3 day return policy. Thanks for the help
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I would have it checked by a qualified watchmaker ASAP. Even if it's just the wrong dial I'd want a full refund.
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Does the 24 hour hand track or can it be set to a different time zone?
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if i remember my GMT history, it is at least a redial.. coke GMTs didn't come out till the "GMTII" era.. or it's a GMT I with a coke insert... Either way, have it checked!
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Return it.
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I think you just bought a 16700 (GMT Master) not 16710 (GMT Master II). You can refer to here http://gmtmasterhistory.com/gmt-master_ref_16700.html for more info.
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I think it is a 16710 with a different face.
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hmmmm...I am no GMT expert but it doesn't look right to me
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Return it.
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My Coke was a GMT II. And it was an older one with the non SEL (like yours) and an oyster lock clasp, (not the flip lock) and it read SWISS <T25 across the bottom.
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The dial may have been replaced at some point..If it bothers you then you should return it..I would hate to keep living with a watch which bothers me even if it is a real deal.
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5 May 2010, 12:31 AM | #12 |
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Thank you all for your quick replys. This really is a great community. I just spoke with them and they are taking it right back. The gentleman I spoke with was "very puzzled" and asked that I ship it back right away.
Oh well. That is what I get for straying from a trusted TRF seller.
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Looks like a redial
It looks like a redial with recent markers, the markers are the kind used on the GMTII. Very odd and they should give you a refund. Or a big discount for the frankenwatch.
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Have it checked over by an AD ASOP to see what you actually have there so if it is not correct you can send it back!!!
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Anyone have a nice T series Coke for sale?
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Defo sounds like an amalgamation of parts here... What's the serial?
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Good call on returning it...
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Looks like you got a Cal 3175 Ref.16700 with the first Luminova dial 1998-1999 thats when they used Swiss only,after 2000 Swiss Made.They were both in production the same time as the 16710 but the Ref 16700 was slightly cheaper at the time and not many around.
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Ah, same as mine! Mine is a 16710 and as you can see it should have the tritium "Swiss - T < 25" dial... If not then yours must be 16700 or have had the dial replaced at some stage.
Get a refund from those people. That's unreal.
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In looking at Interwatches recently closed auctions. He did have a 16700 listed, which you may have bought and it is as you have pictured.
As Padi said, it is a post 1998 dial, the introduction of the luminova and also the proper use of the "Swiss" dial marking. |
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I would recommend removing the bracelet and checking the model and serial number.
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I would love to get Tools take on the whole thing
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All the parts on the 16700 and the 16710 are interchangeable. They simply used a different movement (3185 on the II vs 3175 for the Master), and of course, the dial. The 16700 was made up until ~1999...
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non-independant basically the 3175 worked the same as the 3075.
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The 16710 did come with the "Swiss" dial for a short period of time (1998-99). This model / dial combination is good.
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Below 1998/9 Ref 16700 GMT Master
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If its a 16710 then its a GMT Master II, made alongside the 16700 which was just a GMT Master. I think the first Coke GMT's were the 16760 from 1983-88. The 16700(1988-1999) and the 16710 (1989-2007). Maybe the SC changed the dial at service for some reason.
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