Identification Help: Tudor Precision

[rohit8054]

Hello All,

I recently bought a vintage Tudor watch and would appreciate your help in identifying it. Here are the details:
Tudor Precision Shock-Resisting wristwatch with a honeycomb textured dial with a small rose logo on a shield.
The watch is in need of service to get it running again ; the case shows some wear consistent with age.
The watch is 32.5mm in diameter excluding the crown. It features a textured dial with applied hour markers.
The seller mentioned that this vintage Tudor is a rare example of one that was assembled in North America after the movement and dial were imported from Switzerland.
Additional Information: The gold-filled case with stainless steel back is unsigned but seller mentions that this is correct for the model.
I am particularly interested in determining the watch model and find more details about it. Any insights, information, or advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance for your help

[Dan S]

If it was nationally cased, it may not have a standard reference number. The inside of the case-back is totally blank?

[rohit8054]

Originally Posted by Dan S

If it was nationally cased, it may not have a standard reference number. The inside of the case-back is totally blank?

Thanks for the response, really appreciate it. The case-back has 3 very minute inscriptions (very hard to read with the naked eye):
1) SR7392-29 (the 'S' could be 'C' as well)
2) 4011Y
3) 2683FW

I have attached the pictures; doubt they'll be legible.

[alwayshere]

Originally Posted by Dan S

If it was nationally cased, it may not have a standard reference number. The inside of the case-back is totally blank?

Looks like a re-casing to me?

Can't see the movement details from that small thumbnail.

[rohit8054]

Originally Posted by alwayshere

Looks like a re-casing to me?

Can't see the movement details from that small thumbnail.

Thanks, updated the photo with a clear movement picture.

[TuRo]

Sorry not keen on its authenticity - btw the dial style is 'rose in shield' which are 1947 to 1951 only and Swiss Made footer only, not Swiss footer.

Here's Tudor Mgt comment:

Dear Sir,

We refer to your today’s e-mail, which has received our best attention.

With regards to your request, please be advised that from 1926 to 1936, Tudor used the word Tudor with an elongated T as dial signature or logo. From 1936 to 1947, the logo evolved to a rose inscribed within a shield and to a rose only from 1947 to 1969.
From then on the logo evolved again to depict a shield only, which still is the brand’s logo today.

Please consider the dates above as a general indication of the era the respective logos were used, rather than a definitive and strict scale to determine the production era of a Tudor watch.

Regarding serial numbers, older Tudor examples indeed made use of four-digit serial numbers, evolving to 5 and more.

Thanking you again for your interest in our brand, we remain,

Yours sincerely,

Bénédict


Relations Clients
Customers Relations

MONTRES TUDOR SA
rue François-Dussaud, 3-5-7
1211 Geneva 26 - Switzerland

[Old Expat Beast]

I'm pretty sure the rose in shield was only 1946 (the year Montres Tudor SA was created) to 1947. As said above the logo evolved to a rose in shield by 1947 and from later that same year to 1969 was rose only. I also have doubts about this watch.

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I'm pretty sure the rose in shield was only 1946 (the year Montres Tudor SA was created) to 1947. As said above the logo evolved to a rose in shield by 1947 and from later that same year to 1969 was rose only. I also have doubts about this watch.

Thanks Adam, sure you are right.

Op also 'Precision' isn't a Tudor term, it is a ROLEX term for manuals (+couple of autos).

Tudor manual winds are marked 'Shock Resisting'

Unless you are happy with it, I'd consider returning it the seller.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Thanks Adam, sure you are right.

Op also 'Precision' isn't a Tudor term, it is a ROLEX term for manuals (+couple of autos).

Tudor manual winds are marked 'Shock Resisting'

Unless you are happy with it, I'd consider returning it the seller.

Yes, I've only ever seen the word OYSTER below TUDOR on rose-in-shield dials, and as this is not an Oyster case, a redial to suit the case seems likely. Precision doesn't belong there, especially with a 17j movement inside, which looks newer anyway.

[offrdmania]

Most likely this is a re-cased movement and dial where the dial was at one time washed and then repainted. Unfortunately, there is very little collector value in its present form.
Hopefully you can get your money back OP, unless you like it, in which case, wear it and enjoy it.

[rohit8054]

Thankyou everyone for the responses. Reached out to the seller, this was their response:
1) The seller believes the watch is authentic despite its unusual aspects. They explain that the dial reading 'Precision' instead of 'Oyster' supports the authenticity of the non-waterproof case.
2) The seller initially had doubts about the watch being re-cased but changed their mind after finding a similar example online with the same dial markings and case.
3) They speculate that the movement, dial, and hands were likely imported from Switzerland and then cased in Canada or the US, which was a common practice in the past for various watch companies.
4) The seller also addressed concerns about the movement, stating that it is a correct Tudor movement, fully marked and signed, and appropriate for the era of the watch.

[rohit8054]

Originally Posted by rohit8054

Thankyou everyone for the responses. Reached out to the seller, this was their response:
1) The seller believes the watch is authentic despite its unusual aspects. They explain that the dial reading 'Precision' instead of 'Oyster' supports the authenticity of the non-waterproof case.
2) The seller initially had doubts about the watch being re-cased but changed their mind after finding a similar example online with the same dial markings and case.
3) They speculate that the movement, dial, and hands were likely imported from Switzerland and then cased in Canada or the US, which was a common practice in the past for various watch companies.
4) The seller also addressed concerns about the movement, stating that it is a correct Tudor movement, fully marked and signed, and appropriate for the era of the watch.

The seller also directed me towards a similar listing(attached photos) in Canada. Thoughts??

[offrdmania]

The seller doesnt want to give a refund is what it comes down to. Tudors never came in a Rolex box, the second one pictured is no different than the first. Two wrongs doesnt make a right.
They may have very well been recased in Canada but in their current configuration, they did not leave Tudor this way.

[996marty]

The seller showing you proof of another watch that looks like the one bought from him counts for very little. As mentioned on here lots of questionable things that aren’t right by people that have a wealth of knowledge on the subject.

[rohit8054]

Hello Everyone,

Thanks for all your input. Good learning for me, I'll return the watch.

Happy weekend!!

[TuRo]

Yes good decision.

The second Devon or Kent case styled one is fake too as is the tuxedo style dial and the rest of it....

Rgds