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SeeDweller · 29 July 2019, 03:48 PM

Whoa, everyone!!!
I know I’m a relative new comer, but this thread is getting pretty hot under the collar!!
Lots of inferences and nasty antagonism!!

Everyone’s interested in the story for many reasons. First, because I don’t think most of us can fathom the amount of money that the OP deals with. That case and his collection, puts him in a league far above most of us. ( I can’t WAIT to hear the response that comes from that statement… !!).
That comment is no way disparaging! More power to him, and I’m envious of some of his beautiful toys. . . But I’m finding it interesting that so many of the posters want to try to “catch him in his story” or in someway show him to be dishonest. It’s all just silly.
He owns-up to the fact that he bought this during a poker game, from an old friend who doesn’t know anything about watches. (Wow!… I’d love to know what great wines they were drinking! ). It’s a interesting and somewhat humorous tale!

So let’s wait until we get the photos from his AD and we’ll have more to talk about.
But can we tone down the rhetoric just a little? The accusations are pretty intense, and we are all on this forum for similar reasons. Let’s just have fun, OK?

WatchLurv · 29 July 2019, 04:30 PM

The numbers on the bezel are painted on. Not engraved and platinum sprayed. It shouldn't chip off like that. It's a fake. End of.

I don't know mrN, but looking at his previous posts (that I've participated in), he's a certified "baller". I guess that could get people's knickers in a tangle and not able to fathom someone out there is able to pay 100,150,200K for a watch. Guy bought it off his friend (who btw is a loser for wearing a fake, and I certainly hope he gets cut from the friendship group after the money has been repaid) and wasn't told it was a fake. We can't all be experts, especially during poker and 10 drinks down throughout a night of play.

antrolexsub · 29 July 2019, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

The numbers on the bezel are painted on. Not engraved and platinum sprayed. It shouldn't chip off like that. It's a fake. End of.

If you bothered to read the whole thread you’d see that the authenticity of the bezel insert and GMT hand isn’t disputed anywhere. It’s clear as day the bezel insert is fake and more than likely the GMT hand. The watch however is genuine.

WatchLurv · 29 July 2019, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by antrolexsub

If you bothered to read the whole thread you’d see that the authenticity of the bezel insert and GMT hand isn’t disputed anywhere. It’s clear as day the bezel insert is fake and more than likely the GMT hand. The watch however is genuine.

I did read it. Put in my 2 cents. Are you the "thread-security"

Ok which part is genuine? The machined case? The back-cover? The bracelet? The clasp?

A "franken" to this state is a fake. Send that to RSC and see what comes back. Most likely nothing.

antrolexsub · 29 July 2019, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

I did read it. Put in my 2 cents. Are you the "thread-security"

Ok which part is genuine? The machined case? The back-cover? The bracelet? The clasp?

A "franken" to this state is a fake. Send that to RSC and see what comes back. Most likely nothing.

Your 2 cents was nonsense stated as fact.

Every part of the watch is genuine apart from the bezel insert and more than likely the gmt hand.

Again showing your lack of knowledge. Send it to RSC and they’ll tell you the bezel insert and possibly the GMT hand are fake, and they’ll offer to put it back to original with a black bezel insert and green GMT hand.

WatchLurv · 30 July 2019, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by antrolexsub

Your 2 cents was nonsense stated as fact.

Every part of the watch is genuine apart from the bezel insert and more than likely the gmt hand.

Again showing your lack of knowledge. Send it to RSC and they’ll tell you the bezel insert and possibly the GMT hand are fake, and they’ll offer to put it back to original with a black bezel insert and green GMT hand.

None of my call-outs were wrong, so that wasn’t nonsense.

Seems like you have a vested interest in this discussion. You sure you weren’t the guy who handed the watch to @OP?

Macnavara · 27 August 2019, 04:48 PM

well funny

dxbtousa · 29 July 2019, 04:57 PM

Since my post was deleted; I will rephrase.

I suggest we keep an open mind on the legitimacy until proven otherwise. OP seems to have a collection far above the rest of us.

Throwing around a BLNR at a poker game is not far fetched.

Kowaco · 30 July 2019, 03:34 AM

About half the posts on here are trolls

westsiderkg · 30 July 2019, 04:25 AM

Where are the internal movement pics??? Its tomorrow please MrN??? Thanks.

walds11 · 30 July 2019, 06:55 AM

Quite an entertaining thread, but IBTL!

marcellomatt5 · 30 July 2019, 06:56 AM

moving the crown forward, what's the direction that the hands moves?

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mrN · 30 July 2019, 08:07 AM

Quick update: went to my AD and they won’t open it or touch it. I’m not sure if this it normal but they sent me to RSC. I’ll keep you posted!

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77T · 31 July 2019, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrN

Quick update: went to my AD and they won’t open it or touch it. I’m not sure if this it normal but they sent me to RSC. I’ll keep you posted!

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Is that the Beverly Hills RSC?
I had not seen a pic of it before - plenty of other RSC pics but not the BH RSC.

Good luck on their assessment.

Hopefully they will shoot pics of the movement inside if it’s genuine.

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kuuttingg · 31 July 2019, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Is that the Beverly Hills RSC?
I had not seen a pic of it before - plenty of other RSC pics but not the BH RSC.

Good luck on their assessment.

Hopefully they will shoot pics of the movement inside if it’s genuine.

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It is. Staff are super friendly and knowledgeable.

blada4life · 20 August 2019, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

Is that the Beverly Hills RSC?
I had not seen a pic of it before - plenty of other RSC pics but not the BH RSC.

Good luck on their assessment.

Hopefully they will shoot pics of the movement inside if it’s genuine.

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Yes it is. Been there before myself. Free parking in the heart of BH. Nice of them. They have a nice large coffee table book to the right you can look through with Rolex history movements bezels etc. nothing else really that special tbh. The pic shows most of the room.

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GLADIATOR · 30 July 2019, 08:09 AM

Sounds ominous.
But pretty sure you have a fake with genuine Rolex movement
A

sacsha00786 · 30 July 2019, 08:18 AM

looks genuine watch that was frankened by using aftermarket bezel and aftermarket hand.

antrolexsub · 31 July 2019, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacsha00786

looks genuine watch that was frankened by using aftermarket bezel and aftermarket hand.

Someone else that knows what they’re talking about!

tigey · 1 August 2019, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacsha00786

looks genuine watch that was frankened by using aftermarket bezel and aftermarket hand.

Someone had a 116710, and when the Batman craze came out decided to "convert" it to a Batman using cheap fake bezel and blue GMT hand. Sold it posing it as a batman and probaly made $5K profit.

123Blueface · 1 August 2019, 02:33 AM

I guess the bottom line, whether fake or Franken, who here would love to jump all over this and buy it from the OP?
.....and if the likely answer is “no”, then does it really matter which one it is of the two?

mjclark32 · 31 July 2019, 03:03 AM

I wouldn't be messing with MrN... his cars, homes, yachts, watches etc are on a different level

I don't doubt the poker game purchase
Hopefully it's just been, poorly, modded. The only thing I notice that hasn't been pointed out is the crown at 12 on the rehaut isn't centered, but that doesn't necessarily mean the case is wrong...
Keep us in the loop with RSC

Gtecko · 31 July 2019, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrN

I hope you gave him a $5 bill for that watch ...

your "good friend" is flashing a fake Rolex and 100doll

Dubshack · 5 August 2019, 03:02 PM

What ever came of this, OP?

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GMT Aviator · 18 August 2019, 10:32 AM

Watch looks legit to me, although the bezel is clearly aftermarket fake and suggest the GMT hand has been replaced.
Watch was born as an LN I would guess but been bastardised into a BLNR by a rubbish bezel lookey-likey and re-painted GMT hand.

EDIT:
Actually the rehaut looks off as well and the crown on the clasp maybe not as defined as it should be.
It’s likely all fake, but the dial looks ok for a LN Dial?

I’m perplexed. Can’t wait to hear the outcome of this.

MrN, please keep us posted.

FTX I · 25 August 2019, 12:53 AM

Interesting thread. Would be nice to know what happened.

FTX I · 11 September 2019, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FTX I

Interesting thread. Would be nice to know what happened.

Agree

hnottur · 27 August 2019, 07:14 PM

The crown at 12 in the rehaut should it not align on a genuine watch ? This seems a bit off?

Syed117 · 27 August 2019, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hnottur

The crown at 12 in the rehaut should it not align on a genuine watch ? This seems a bit off?

Two DJ 41s and a ceramic sub here.

All three have 12 o'clock rehaut crowns that are slightly off to the right.

That is not an indicator of a genuine watch as they seem to be off half the time.

hnottur · 30 August 2019, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syed117

Two DJ 41s and a ceramic sub here.

All three have 12 o'clock rehaut crowns that are slightly off to the right.

That is not an indicator of a genuine watch as they seem to be off half the time.

Ahh okey that’s interesting, read somewhere that it might indicate it’s not real but I only have few vintage Rolex that don’t have it so not really looked into it :)

29 July 2019, 03:48 PM	#1
SeeDweller 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Bob Location: NorCal Watch: 5212 (blasphemy!) Posts: 1,748	Whoa, everyone!!! I know I’m a relative new comer, but this thread is getting pretty hot under the collar!! Lots of inferences and nasty antagonism!! Everyone’s interested in the story for many reasons. First, because I don’t think most of us can fathom the amount of money that the OP deals with. That case and his collection, puts him in a league far above most of us. ( I can’t WAIT to hear the response that comes from that statement… !!). That comment is no way disparaging! More power to him, and I’m envious of some of his beautiful toys. . . But I’m finding it interesting that so many of the posters want to try to “catch him in his story” or in someway show him to be dishonest. It’s all just silly. He owns-up to the fact that he bought this during a poker game, from an old friend who doesn’t know anything about watches. (Wow!… I’d love to know what great wines they were drinking! ). It’s a interesting and somewhat humorous tale! So let’s wait until we get the photos from his AD and we’ll have more to talk about. But can we tone down the rhetoric just a little? The accusations are pretty intense, and we are all on this forum for similar reasons. Let’s just have fun, OK? __________________ Bob '67 5512 (Sub., Matte, meters 1st) ..\|..... '72 1655 (Explorer II, Freccione) '72 1675 (GMT, Pepsi bezel) ..........\|..'03 16610LV (Submariner, Kermit) '21 116506 (Daytona, Blue dial)..\|..... '22 116508 (Daytona, Green dial) '21 126619LB (Submariner, Blue) ...\|... '20 126710-BLNR (GMT-II, Batgirl) .... and still trying to scratch that itch!.....

27 August 2019, 04:48 PM	#7
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30 July 2019, 06:55 AM	#11
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,634	Quite an entertaining thread, but IBTL! __________________ Adam

30 July 2019, 06:56 AM	#12
marcellomatt5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Real Name: Marcello Location: Rio de Janeiro Watch: 16610lv / 16610LN Posts: 146	moving the crown forward, what's the direction that the hands moves? Enviado de meu SM-N9600 usando o Tapatalk __________________ Rolex 116520 Black \| 116622 Platinum \| 16710 Coke \| 16610LV \| 16610LN \| 1601 Omega Speedmaster Professional JLC Reverso Grande Taille Longines Legend Diver

30 July 2019, 08:09 AM	#17
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Sounds ominous. But pretty sure you have a fake with genuine Rolex movement A __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

29 July 2019, 04:30 PM	#2
WatchLurv Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270	The numbers on the bezel are painted on. Not engraved and platinum sprayed. It shouldn't chip off like that. It's a fake. End of. I don't know mrN, but looking at his previous posts (that I've participated in), he's a certified "baller". I guess that could get people's knickers in a tangle and not able to fathom someone out there is able to pay 100,150,200K for a watch. Guy bought it off his friend (who btw is a loser for wearing a fake, and I certainly hope he gets cut from the friendship group after the money has been repaid) and wasn't told it was a fake. We can't all be experts, especially during poker and 10 drinks down throughout a night of play.

29 July 2019, 04:57 PM	#8
dxbtousa "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: dubai Posts: 672	Since my post was deleted; I will rephrase. I suggest we keep an open mind on the legitimacy until proven otherwise. OP seems to have a collection far above the rest of us. Throwing around a BLNR at a poker game is not far fetched.

30 July 2019, 03:34 AM	#9
Kowaco "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Clemson Watch: G Shock Posts: 609	About half the posts on here are trolls

30 July 2019, 04:25 AM	#10
westsiderkg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Pittsburgh Dad Location: Pittsburgh, PA Watch: '66 Submariner Posts: 1,121	Where are the internal movement pics??? Its tomorrow please MrN??? Thanks.

30 July 2019, 08:07 AM	#13
mrN "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Beverly Hills Posts: 225	Quick update: went to my AD and they won’t open it or touch it. I’m not sure if this it normal but they sent me to RSC. I’ll keep you posted! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 July 2019, 08:18 AM	#18
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1 August 2019, 02:33 AM	#21
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 4,941	I guess the bottom line, whether fake or Franken, who here would love to jump all over this and buy it from the OP? .....and if the likely answer is “no”, then does it really matter which one it is of the two? __________________ Rolex 228235 DD40 Olive, 126710BLRO, 116710BLNR, 116613LB, 116500LN White, 126610LN, 116500LN Black, 126610LV, 116610LV Breitling Navitimer 01, Cartier Santos Large

31 July 2019, 03:03 AM	#22
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	I wouldn't be messing with MrN... his cars, homes, yachts, watches etc are on a different level I don't doubt the poker game purchase Hopefully it's just been, poorly, modded. The only thing I notice that hasn't been pointed out is the crown at 12 on the rehaut isn't centered, but that doesn't necessarily mean the case is wrong... Keep us in the loop with RSC __________________

5 August 2019, 03:02 PM	#24
Dubshack "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Real Name: Matt Location: SoCal Watch: 126334 Posts: 867	What ever came of this, OP? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 August 2019, 10:32 AM	#25
GMT Aviator 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: London Posts: 3,289	Watch looks legit to me, although the bezel is clearly aftermarket fake and suggest the GMT hand has been replaced. Watch was born as an LN I would guess but been bastardised into a BLNR by a rubbish bezel lookey-likey and re-painted GMT hand. EDIT: Actually the rehaut looks off as well and the crown on the clasp maybe not as defined as it should be. It’s likely all fake, but the dial looks ok for a LN Dial? I’m perplexed. Can’t wait to hear the outcome of this. MrN, please keep us posted.

25 August 2019, 12:53 AM	#26
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Interesting thread. Would be nice to know what happened.

27 August 2019, 07:14 PM	#28
hnottur Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 14	The crown at 12 in the rehaut should it not align on a genuine watch ? This seems a bit off?

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