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16 January 2017, 02:35 PM | #61 |
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Yep, the only list I was told was of people who paid in full...
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16 January 2017, 03:18 PM | #62 | |
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16 January 2017, 03:50 PM | #63 |
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You can't so move on. That's life and no amount of stamping feet, posting videos or telling them how important or wealthy someone believes they are will change a thing. If your mate is an AD or you're famous you'll likely get one quicker.
I don't like line skipping at all, seniority jumpers etc but it happens. I'd buy a speedmaster pro over a daytona anyway. |
16 January 2017, 03:57 PM | #64 |
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This is silly. Dealer can sell that watch to whoever he pleases.
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16 January 2017, 04:28 PM | #65 | |
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Agreed. OP 1) Get over it, and 2) Find a new AD
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16 January 2017, 04:37 PM | #66 |
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Aren't we all first on the list
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16 January 2017, 04:42 PM | #67 |
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Years ago I vented almost your same concerns to Rolex NY when the anniversary Sub came out. They played the ol political blah, blah, blah to me. Don't you know it, the dealer called me a week later for the watch. Coincidence? Not sure but I got the watch when most people where still trying to buy them.
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16 January 2017, 04:53 PM | #68 |
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Take your business elsewhere since there are many other great AD's and sellers! Don't ever go back...Not even for a discount.
Be sure to let friends and anyone who'll listen know what your experiences were with this specific AD...If they ever get wind of it and confront you, just send them their own emails back. That's about it. Have fun shopping for a new Daytona
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16 January 2017, 06:52 PM | #69 |
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Tough break, but Rolex won't do anything and you may sour the relationship you have with the AD if you make too much noise - do nothing, be patient, your Daytona will come.
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16 January 2017, 07:41 PM | #70 | |
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16 January 2017, 07:54 PM | #71 |
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16 January 2017, 10:17 PM | #73 |
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Really, discuss your concerns with the appropriate person at the AD, minus any emotion. See what they tell you and leverage this to your advantage on the yet to be received Daytona-C and any future purchases. Many will say this situation is not "Fair". I say the Fair is where you buy cotton candy and ride the rides. This is business, not personal.
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17 January 2017, 06:03 AM | #74 | |
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However, if the dealer represents to a customer that placement on the list represents an option to buy a watch in a given order of priority, and then sells the watch to someone else in contravention of that order without honoring the customer's option, that's just flat-out dishonest. |
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17 January 2017, 12:12 PM | #75 |
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Be careful what you wish for in your complaints might get you the wrong kind of attention. Such as getting removed from the list completely.
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17 January 2017, 12:14 PM | #76 |
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Great catch. Yeah, OP blames the AD for doing the same thing he was doing. Irony. Or Karma.
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17 January 2017, 12:28 PM | #77 |
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That's a false equivalency. He'd be two-timing the dealer if the dealer wasn't taking any other customers' names on the watch because he had absolute faith the OP would buy it, and then lost a sales opportunity if the OP flaked. Of course no dealer does that. The very existence of a list means there are multiple customers' names on it. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a list; it would just be a single customer's name on a piece of paper. How is it two-timing, then, if a customer puts his name on lists at multiple ADs? How does that act exempt the AD from honoring a customer's place on his own list?
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17 January 2017, 12:42 PM | #78 |
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My AD told me that if they had any feelings that the person buying would just flip it then they would be low on the list (which effectible means off it)
The only folks on the list in the first place are those they knew 100% would not flip it, how do they know? I doubt they can other than close relationships with their customers. Would not surprise me if they compare lists, just to see if anyone is putting their name on all of them to see if they detect a flipper.
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From an outcomes point of view probably best to not write the letter, while putting your name on the list at all dealers in your area. |
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17 January 2017, 11:35 PM | #81 |
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Write the letter but don't post it.
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18 January 2017, 12:48 AM | #82 |
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I wouldn't narc on your AD. It sure as won't get you a daytona. That said, I feel your pain. I was told by a saleswoman I was at the "top" of the list only to find out later that there were a few of us up there at the top
Luckily my number was called after politely checking back in a few times. Good luck and don't sweat it. It's not the end all be all watch. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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18 January 2017, 08:40 PM | #83 |
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I have been on a number of dealer lists with mixed outcomes.
No deposits were required and the dealer obviously administered their list as they saw fit with VIP's taking preference over people like myself. The last time I was on a list with only a substantial deposit paid as required by the dealer at the time to demonstrate a commitment. The way they were handling their list had changed from earlier times. I got my watch within a few months of paying the deposit after a total of about 10 months of being on the list. Not long after I paid my deposit I understand it was impossible to go on the list as the dealer wasn't sure they could honour the delivery and they didn't want to be holding such a large amount in deposits in the event the music stopped for that model. It is clear the list arrangements are entirely a matter for the individual dealer. They are not bound by rules other than those they impose internally. Their integrity is another matter and if caught out a little, the way they handle the matter is again entirely up to them as there are no laws to govern their behaviour. If one doesn't like the way they conduct their business, then take them to court if one thinks it's their best chance of getting an outcome in one's favour |
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AD's are retail staff. Most, won't have a massively excellent customer-relation/service understanding. Some will have landed a gig where they are facilitating the sale of a hugely popular type of product - can't even call it selling as the buying desire is already there. Some AD's will feel a bit special, being able to decide who gets what, and this just sounds like part of that. In my experience, if you come across a good AD who actually likes and has an interest in what they do, then they may have a legitimate list that has some sort of structure. That, or if you have a good relationship with an AD, then there is no reason that you wouldn't get looked after. |
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19 January 2017, 12:38 AM | #88 | |
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It's amazing to me that so many are defending the AD when they blatantly lied to a customer....to me that speaks as loudly to the character of those individuals as well. So much for honoring your word, it's sad that has little value anymore. |
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19 January 2017, 12:38 AM | #89 | |
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I'm sorry you cannot get a 116500, many of us are in the same situation. Be mad at Rolex for creating an artificial scarcity, not at your AD for not getting enough of them. Vote with your feet and take your hard earned dollars elsewhere. |
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19 January 2017, 01:02 AM | #90 | |
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I'm not sure of the fact that others who have 'stuck up' for the AD's means anything about thier integrity, or lack of. I think they feel they might just be looking at it more 'realistically'. I can understand why you're angry, you've been pie-faced, and it's disappointing when someone else hasn't treated you the way you think you'd treat them, but you just have to let it go! You know, like Frozen!! Just like Morgan Freeman (aka Brett Paul) has said a few posts back, be patient, your Daytona will come. |
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