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30 July 2014, 08:33 AM | #1 |
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Just 4 fun: Pluses and Minuses for the perfect Beater/Multitask watch
Patek 5167 Rubber/ Rolex SubC LV
ubiquitousness. + 2. / 0 Time elapsed function. 0. / +2 Dress up +2. / 0 Sportiness/weight presence. +1. / +2 Less Prone Scratching case +1. / + 2 Less prone Scratching Bracelet. +2. / +1 Ability adjust size with clasp. 0. / +2 Readability. +2. / +1 Total. 10. / 10 Tiebreaker ? |
30 July 2014, 08:41 AM | #2 |
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Movement ! And I'd rather own a Patek.
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30 July 2014, 08:47 AM | #3 |
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Ability to adjust the size with clasp on the 5167 ought to be a -1. There is NO margin for error once that sucker is cut!! But the Patek gets +5 for class, easily breaking the tie. :)
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I think the Aquanaut will get a lot more criticism on the Rolex forum than the Sub will on this.
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Little detail I left out is the price difference but at the end the important thing is which choice checks more pluses in our lifestyle.
Sure Sub is more rugged , but do we really need that extra - ruggedness or we rather trade it for the Patek class. Hmmm. |
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I wear my 5167 walking the dog. I wear it to work. I wear it to the pool. So is it the perfect beater watch for my lifestyle? You bet!
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Are we here to compare rolex to a PATEK??!!.
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It appears so
I think it depends on your lifestyle and willingness to take the watch off for rigorous activities. If you are very active and unwilling to remove your watch, the sub is a better beater hands down. If your idea of getting dirty is 18 at the club, you'll be fine with the 5167. Last but not least, if money is not as important the 5167 wins every time. With my activity level and budget, the 5167 cannot serve as a beater. My Rolex are literally covered in character that would not suite my patek. |
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SubC LV for the win unless you don't care about scratches. I have a SubC LV for a beater and it's a year old, has lots of marks on it and I don't care. I have a fairly new 5164 and I wouldn't be happy if it looked like the Sub. I wear the Sub when I don't want to worry about my watch.
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I think the key word here is "lifestyle"
If you do scuba diving and rugby probably Sub will be your answer. My beater activities are : play tennis, swimming pool with the kids, walks with my wife, Vacations on the Caribbean. So I think in my case both will do fine. But Patek has the advantage because it would like nicer in the office. |
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I'm looking for a nicer watch than the Sub C I lost by being scammed. Replaced it with a Datejust (two tone rose) and that is too "flashy" for daily wear. Was thinking about an AP (have had 2 bad experiences with reliability...) but can't get the 5167 out of my head. For a true beater (jumping in the ocean with tons of sand suspended in the water, bouncing around a fishing boat banging into things, etc.) I use a Seiko Monster (laugh all you, want, but love it to death and many people have asked what it is since they too like it; the latter is not important to me, as I prefer under the radar type watches). Pricing not into consideration PP wins hands down, but much more delicate than a Sub.
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I prefer to think of my 5167 as a casual lifestyle daily wear watch instead of a beater because I wouldn't wear it to do something I know has a high risk of beating it up. It has picked up a few scuffs/scratches in daily casual wear and I'd rather have a few marks on it than have it pristine in a safe.
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That other post with the pictures comparing the Sub and the 5167 sealed it for me. As there are no local PP dealers, I will more than likely buy it sight unseen, so those pictures serve as great references. Now unto selling the Datejust to fund this purchase!
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5170G-001 Okay, you have to wind it (but it burns calories while yo do it), but it is a Chrono magnifique!
Otherwise, a Sub or Daytona. |
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Those that said we can't must not be real. Bracelet/strap - LVc wins hands down. Case/bezel - At minimum on par; sorry I don't buy Aquanaut's case being superior to LVc case, in any catagory. Readibility/function - At minimum on par, even slight edge to LVc. Movement - Aquanaut better decorated while LVc more robust. |
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Jorge,
They are very different watches. I think the 5167 falls between your 5712 and a 116610. It really comes down to how much robustness one needs given their lifestyle. Myself, I need more dynamic range in terms of robustness than a 5167 affords. So I would not score them as you did and would likely have differing criteria to compare and contrast. You obviously have a 5167 itch to scratch. Either get some antihistamine or corticosteroid cream and apply it heavily to the area or just get the Patek. :-) Bob
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Well I am trying hard to stick to my 3 watch theory Bob; But it seems that I can't win. Can't fully justify the Hulk if I buy the 5167, but I can't be without a Rollie either. Eventually I am gonna end up with 4 watches I guess, unless I find strength to let go my Sub. Will see...... Regards
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I tried convincing myself of 3 watches too. Ended up with four. The winder looked empty without all the slots taken up!!
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5205R-010 5712R 5167A-001 ( Soon ) What I am pondering is to keep or not to keep my 116610LV, that is the question ? Keeping it has the advantage of a full beater action watch but don't know if it is justifiable on my current lifestyle. |
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Pretty funny you're looking for a 5167 and I'm looking for a 5712R. Great minds think alike.
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