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Old 16 October 2016, 02:49 AM   #91
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With the exception of the Daytona, anytime Rolex has updated/redesigned a watch they start at the top and work down. First, precious metal model, then steel & gold model, then all steel. By that logic, IF there were a change to happen the steel Submariner would have changes in 2019 at the earliest.
That's not correct with the Submariner or the date version for that matter, quite the opposite.
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Old 16 October 2016, 04:17 AM   #92
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Hmmm, ceramic red sub. Wonder what would the wait list be.
After all the 116500 hoopla, I wonder how Padi would react to everyone freaking out over this one...not even an updated press on sliver of ceramic but red letters...

Have to admit I do like it though I'd prefer the Sea Dweller with some red in there
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Old 16 October 2016, 06:40 AM   #93
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I say buy it now. Even IF they release something new in March it may be another 8 months before you ever have one on the wrist.


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Old 23 October 2016, 09:25 PM   #94
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My first post here :)

Just bought a 114060 Sub and I'd recommend it for the OP. Surely the 114060 and 116610 will remain in production for many years to come, so no need to panic.

The first change I see for the Subs is updating the movement to the new 70h power reserve models, like the DD40 and DJ41. This could happen in a few years time, although they could update the case design too. But overall I think, why would they bother changing the sub so soon? Slow and gradual progress is part of the staying power of the brand which makes it desirable and timeless.

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Old 23 October 2016, 10:00 PM   #95
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Slow and gradual progress is part of the staying power of the brand which makes it desirable and timeless.
Indeed - Omega take note!

Congrats on the sub!
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Old 23 October 2016, 10:16 PM   #96
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Buy a like new late model 14060M and wait it out.

The 14060 will hold its value until Rolex sorts out its lug issue.
I like this advice.

Wouldn't a 50 year anniversary SD with lug holes be cool
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Old 24 October 2016, 05:03 AM   #97
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I like this advice.

Wouldn't a 50 year anniversary SD with lug holes be cool

Do any of the modern Rolex's have lug holes these days? If not, I can't see them going back to that. I also think they removed the lug holes in order to limit or make harder for owners/users to swap out their bracelets.
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Old 24 October 2016, 07:52 AM   #98
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Do any of the modern Rolex's have lug holes these days? If not, I can't see them going back to that. I also think they removed the lug holes in order to limit or make harder for owners/users to swap out their bracelets.
Pretty sure the answer to that is no and that the 14060M was the last model to have lug holes.

I have to say that I'm enjoying this speculation about Rolex slimming down the maxi case and lug sizes for future iterations of the sub. I know it's all fantasy at this point but, for me, the move to the maxi case destroyed the classic look of the Submariner and replaced it with something rather ungainly.
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Old 24 October 2016, 12:07 PM   #99
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I would be surprised if a new Sub came out anytime soon in any metal except platinum...go for the SS now mate!
I doubt that we will ever see a platinum Submariner.
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Old 26 October 2016, 01:35 PM   #100
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That's not correct with the Submariner or the date version for that matter, quite the opposite.
Sorry for the stupid question from a new-ishbie. How did Sub do the opposite?
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Old 26 October 2016, 01:56 PM   #101
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Curious...

What exactly would have to happen to a new Sub to make you prefer it over the current one?
Color options.
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Old 26 October 2016, 10:04 PM   #102
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Perhaps a new color for the dial, bezel or combination of both but doubtful.
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Old 26 October 2016, 11:07 PM   #103
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Only thing I was wondering about is the submariner movement being upgraded at some stage - the 2016 explorer 1 and 39mm OP both have 3132 movement with the paraflex shock absorbers which the sub lacks. I had the option of a new no date SubC or the new Explorer 1 and one of the factors for why I went for the latter as due to wanting to more shock resistance as an everyday watch
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Old 27 October 2016, 01:15 AM   #104
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I'm currently saving up for a no-date SubC and will be getting it around Dec/early Jan. However, would it be wise to wait for Baselworld 2017 to see if a new Submariner is announced before I make my purchase as the SubC has been in production for a few years now?
Submariner is Rolex' bread and butter watch.
Every Sub that comes out of Geneva gets sold.
Australia and the UK have waiting lists for folks who want to buy SS Subs.
Why would Rolex change anything? Go buy one now and enjoy!!
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Old 27 October 2016, 09:42 AM   #105
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Only thing I was wondering about is the submariner movement being upgraded at some stage - the 2016 explorer 1 and 39mm OP both have 3132 movement with the paraflex shock absorbers which the sub lacks. I had the option of a new no date SubC or the new Explorer 1 and one of the factors for why I went for the latter as due to wanting to more shock resistance as an everyday watch
Maybe they will and maybe they won't upgrade the movement?
If the only tangible difference is the shock protection mechanism, then I honestly don't think there would be any practical difference between a Paraflex or Kif shock protection system.
There's practically nothing lacking with either of them.
The only apparent advantage with the Paraflex system is to Rolex themselves in that they can claim it to be in-house and all their own.
Millions of Rolex movements have been made with the Kif system and there's never ever, been a documented problem attributed to it or associated with it.

Just get what you like and enjoy it to the full.
If there's a change to the aesthetics of the watch along with a new movement and you don't like it, then you will have a choice for a little while in the transition phase when purchasing new.
Either way it goes you have time on your side to choose.
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Old 27 October 2016, 10:35 PM   #106
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slim and none... Will be many years before we see a new SS submariner
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