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Soly20 · 6 December 2014, 08:33 AM

Sorry to hear this. Hope you get your money back.

77T · 6 December 2014, 10:04 AM

It's been 9 months so I agree with you - he may never make restitution. The criminal case that is dragging on doesn't stop you from filing a lawsuit, though.

This way if he ever gets any money in the future you might get your money back.

john168 · 6 December 2014, 10:34 AM

Notify Rolex Service Center & provide the serial number of the watch.

gmaldari · 29 December 2015, 06:14 AM

So an Update...

Marvin has been sent to Jail ...

cop414 · 29 December 2015, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gmaldari

So an Update...

Marvin has been sent to Jail ...

Any word on restitution for those that he scammed?

Dr.Brian · 29 December 2015, 06:29 AM

Nice. Not the conclusion we all wanted, but some justice and a criminal record to follow him.
Thanks for the update.

Etschell · 29 December 2015, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmaldari

So an Update...

Marvin has been sent to Jail ...

good news. sorry about your watches.

thusalwaystotyrants · 29 December 2015, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmaldari

So an Update...

Marvin has been sent to Jail ...

Nice!

thusalwaystotyrants · 29 December 2015, 06:34 AM

This is why my user name is what is is...

thusalwaystotyrants

I don't necessarily wish this guy death, but always justice to scumbags like him.

tbonesteak · 29 December 2015, 06:39 AM

What a dirtbag! Sorry OP.

http://nypost.com/2015/06/17/crooked...-his-birthday/

OP was far from the only one... I'm actually happier when they scam the wrong person and justice is done outside of the courts.

thusalwaystotyrants · 29 December 2015, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

What a dirtbag! Sorry OP.

http://nypost.com/2015/06/17/crooked...-his-birthday/

OP was far from the only one... I'm actually happier when they scam the wrong person and justice is done outside of the courts.

True...didn't want to be the one to say it
:beat down:

tbonesteak · 29 December 2015, 06:46 AM

Reading another article, he also has to pay restitution, but unfortunately the victims will probably never collect.

Etschell · 29 December 2015, 06:49 AM

motivation, incentive and opportunity. Article from 2006

Marvin Rafeld has owned Fourteen Wall Street Jewelers for 26 years, but the adversity of the past five have taught him more about the business than he could have imagined.

He has lost nearly half of his customers, many of whom worked in buildings that were converted to condominiums after Sept. 11. His largest corporate client, which he declined to name, eventually moved away, too. And his profit margin is much lower because he is offering more discounts. Mr. Rafeld, 52, has been forced to adapt.

"I'm in a much more competitive position than I was a couple of years ago," he says.

Because fewer people were walking through the front door, Mr. Rafeld contacted customers who had left lower Manhattan. Now much of his business is done over the phone as those clients order engagement rings, watches and bracelets from their desks in midtown.

"Customers who started as watch-battery clients are now buying bracelets for $5,000 from me," he says. "I've maintained these customers for that long."

A Web site is also in the works. More people now shop for jewelry online, says Mr. Rafeld, who wants to make it easier for those who can't get to his shop.

"These people who work on Park Avenue are talking each day with people all over the world," he says. "They have referred me to their colleagues and friends in London, France and Brazil."

When Tiffany & Co. opens a location down the street next year, Mr. Rafeld will work on Saturdays.

"I'm no competition to Tiffany's, but they will increase the foot traffic," he says. "And if I can attract at least one new customer of that caliber, then it's worth it."

Rolex addict · 29 December 2015, 08:19 AM

File a Police report and take that to your closest AD so it can be entered into the Rolex database. If it ever comes in for service, they will confiscate it and contact the police.

WRwatchATL · 29 December 2015, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmaldari

So an Update...

Marvin has been sent to Jail ...

Any word on restitution or your watches?

mtrunner · 29 December 2015, 11:18 PM

Nice to see him sent to jail but it's horrible for everyone he scammed. I am sure no one will see a dime from him.

77T · 30 December 2015, 12:26 AM

It is a sad story of his slide from being a self-sustaining retailer has hurt so many innocent people.

Some take adversity (like the WTC 9|11 impact to his business) and survive with their scruples intact. But others turn on their fellow citizens to further victimize them.

In this case, he slid into crime to make ends meet and now will pay the consequences.

Thanks for the update OP. Sorry that you may never see restitution - but if he makes a full turnaround in life you may actually get something back.

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GB-man · 30 December 2015, 02:32 AM

Glad some justice was served.

BLACKHORSE 6 · 30 December 2015, 03:25 AM

I hope that the victims were insured.

Rolex addict · 30 December 2015, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACKHORSE 6

I hope that the victims were insured.

It just amazes me that people don't insure their watch. They insure their car, home, possessions inside the home, boat, motorcycle, phone, etc., but not their luxury watch. Crazy!!!

123Blueface · 30 December 2015, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolex addict

It just amazes me that people don't insure their watch. They insure their car, home, possessions inside the home, boat, motorcycle, phone, etc., but not their luxury watch. Crazy!!!

Yup.
The cost of floaters is well worth the peace of mind in return.
Hate to hear of occurrences like these.

Lordofrolex · 30 December 2015, 06:50 AM

Wow crazy story. Thats awful. You might be able to find him though. As he had his business registered and you know who it is. Its harder to find someone who mugged you with a mask on than go to a shady business and get scammed.

MonBK · 30 December 2015, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

Wow crazy story. Thats awful. You might be able to find him though. As he had his business registered and you know who it is. Its harder to find someone who mugged you with a mask on than go to a shady business and get scammed.

How hard can it be to find him being locked up in a cell?

FTX I · 30 December 2015, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

How hard can it be to find him being locked up in a cell?

I'm sure Brandon didn't read the whole thread. Glad you're back Mon.

MonBK · 30 December 2015, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FTX I

I'm sure Brandon didn't read the whole thread. Glad you're back Mon.

Thanks pal.

FTX I · 30 December 2015, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Thanks pal.

Old Geezer · 30 December 2015, 10:52 AM

Sorry to hear about your situation. The cash may be lost but I hope you at least recover the watches.

6 December 2014, 10:04 AM	#62
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,725	It's been 9 months so I agree with you - he may never make restitution. The criminal case that is dragging on doesn't stop you from filing a lawsuit, though. This way if he ever gets any money in the future you might get your money back. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

29 December 2015, 06:29 AM	#66
Dr.Brian 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: CA dreamin' Watch: ing the market. Posts: 5,900	Nice. Not the conclusion we all wanted, but some justice and a criminal record to follow him. Thanks for the update. __________________ -Brian AUDENTES FORTUNA IUVAT 十人十色

30 December 2015, 12:26 AM	#77
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,725	It is a sad story of his slide from being a self-sustaining retailer has hurt so many innocent people. Some take adversity (like the WTC 9\|11 impact to his business) and survive with their scruples intact. But others turn on their fellow citizens to further victimize them. In this case, he slid into crime to make ends meet and now will pay the consequences. Thanks for the update OP. Sorry that you may never see restitution - but if he makes a full turnaround in life you may actually get something back. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

30 December 2015, 06:50 AM	#82
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	Wow crazy story. Thats awful. You might be able to find him though. As he had his business registered and you know who it is. Its harder to find someone who mugged you with a mask on than go to a shady business and get scammed. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

6 December 2014, 08:33 AM	#61
Soly20 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Soly Location: UK/US Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 3,089	Sorry to hear this. Hope you get your money back.

6 December 2014, 10:34 AM	#63
john168 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: John Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 21	Notify Rolex Service Center & provide the serial number of the watch.

29 December 2015, 06:14 AM	#64
gmaldari "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New York Posts: 37	So an Update... Marvin has been sent to Jail ...

29 December 2015, 06:34 AM	#69
thusalwaystotyrants "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Gabe Location: NY Watch: Rolex Breitling Posts: 174	This is why my user name is what is is... thusalwaystotyrants I don't necessarily wish this guy death, but always justice to scumbags like him.

29 December 2015, 06:39 AM	#70
tbonesteak "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New York Watch: me go broke! Posts: 1,657	What a dirtbag! Sorry OP. http://nypost.com/2015/06/17/crooked...-his-birthday/ OP was far from the only one... I'm actually happier when they scam the wrong person and justice is done outside of the courts.

29 December 2015, 06:46 AM	#72
tbonesteak "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New York Watch: me go broke! Posts: 1,657	Reading another article, he also has to pay restitution, but unfortunately the victims will probably never collect.

29 December 2015, 06:49 AM	#73
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	motivation, incentive and opportunity. Article from 2006 Marvin Rafeld has owned Fourteen Wall Street Jewelers for 26 years, but the adversity of the past five have taught him more about the business than he could have imagined. He has lost nearly half of his customers, many of whom worked in buildings that were converted to condominiums after Sept. 11. His largest corporate client, which he declined to name, eventually moved away, too. And his profit margin is much lower because he is offering more discounts. Mr. Rafeld, 52, has been forced to adapt. "I'm in a much more competitive position than I was a couple of years ago," he says. Because fewer people were walking through the front door, Mr. Rafeld contacted customers who had left lower Manhattan. Now much of his business is done over the phone as those clients order engagement rings, watches and bracelets from their desks in midtown. "Customers who started as watch-battery clients are now buying bracelets for $5,000 from me," he says. "I've maintained these customers for that long." A Web site is also in the works. More people now shop for jewelry online, says Mr. Rafeld, who wants to make it easier for those who can't get to his shop. "These people who work on Park Avenue are talking each day with people all over the world," he says. "They have referred me to their colleagues and friends in London, France and Brazil." When Tiffany & Co. opens a location down the street next year, Mr. Rafeld will work on Saturdays. "I'm no competition to Tiffany's, but they will increase the foot traffic," he says. "And if I can attract at least one new customer of that caliber, then it's worth it."

29 December 2015, 08:19 AM	#74
Rolex addict Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: The Enabler Location: South Cackalacky Watch: me crash my bike Posts: 5,564	File a Police report and take that to your closest AD so it can be entered into the Rolex database. If it ever comes in for service, they will confiscate it and contact the police.

29 December 2015, 11:18 PM	#76
mtrunner 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Gary Location: Bozeman, MT Watch: 126508 Paul Newman Posts: 7,825	Nice to see him sent to jail but it's horrible for everyone he scammed. I am sure no one will see a dime from him.

30 December 2015, 02:32 AM	#78
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,864	Glad some justice was served.

30 December 2015, 03:25 AM	#79
BLACKHORSE 6 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: USA Watch: Rolex SS Daytona Posts: 2,623	I hope that the victims were insured.

30 December 2015, 10:52 AM	#87
Old Geezer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Earth Watch: 126619LB and more Posts: 5,207	Sorry to hear about your situation. The cash may be lost but I hope you at least recover the watches.

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