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Old 11 February 2016, 03:09 PM   #1
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5167R or other RG?

Hi all, my question is simple, I have an AP ceramic diver, black, am getting back in a few months THE watch I loved the most out of all I've had, the PP 5712, and I'm considering the 5167R.

Might sound stupid as I'm not a huge RG fan, but I would like to be at 3 watches and think a RG piece should be in there, the idea of having 3 watches of different materials and appearance interests me, I wouldn't want 1 SS, 1 WG and 1 PT for example, yeah different materials but they look alike.

What I like about the PP is the ultra thin and light, the rubber strap, the brown dial which looks really cool, the fact that even if it's RG it's very under the radar, and good WR.

Do you think it's a good choice, would you choose this one as third or would you have other suggestions? If you have it needs to be on rubber, and probably no more than 40-45K, and basically that's it, don't hesitate to tell me your opinion and ideas if you think I should get another model.

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Old 11 February 2016, 04:54 PM   #2
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If you're not a RG fan, why put yourself through that?
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Old 11 February 2016, 05:10 PM   #3
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For a little less € than the 5167r you could get the RG JLC MUT QP - then you'd have a nice threesome from three fantastic brands, AP, PP, JLC. Not the best picture but:


You'd also have three great materials - SS, ceramic & RG.


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Old 11 February 2016, 05:54 PM   #4
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I'm not usually a rose gold fan myself, but I really do like the 5167r
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Old 11 February 2016, 07:11 PM   #5
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If you're not a RG fan, why put yourself through that?
Mike my friend the answer to your question is being given by the other Mike 2 posts down from yours

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For a little less € than the 5167r you could get the RG JLC MUT QP - then you'd have a nice threesome from three fantastic brands, AP, PP, JLC. Not the best picture but:
You'd also have three great materials - SS, ceramic & RG.
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Well the answer is simple first I don't like dress watches, it's nice just not for me and I want a good WR, and second I had a calendar watch, PP 5726, was very excited to get a AC but once I had it I understood I didn't care what day and month it was as I always knew that, so having a calendar watch is of no interest to me, but thanks for your option

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I'm not usually a rose gold fan myself, but I really do like the 5167r
Exactly, I really find it very cool whereas the SS version leaves me cold, strange as in 99% I prefer the SS version to the RG, the 5712 is the best example
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Old 11 February 2016, 07:23 PM   #6
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The 5167R looks amazing in person. I know in the past you have stated pieces on a leather strap arent for you so your choices are somewhat limited. Focus on the 5712 and then see what comes out in the next year or two. I would not be in any rush to add a 3rd piece. The CE diver is awesome and can cover your casual and sport needs and the 5712 is very versatile and can also be dressed up
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Old 11 February 2016, 07:28 PM   #7
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You keep going on about the 5712 every minute and getting that back so why dont you focus on that instead of another one?? Just my opinion !!! :-)
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Old 11 February 2016, 07:31 PM   #8
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I'm not a fan of precious metal sports watches. The case, the strap and dial are all very casual in the 5167 - it makes sense as a steel sports watch but not as a precious metal piece.

For that money I'd look at a rose gold annual calendar 5205R- this to me is what a rose gold Patek should look like.




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Old 11 February 2016, 07:32 PM   #9
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I had the same isue but went for the Rolex 116655. I love the aquanauts but it was more than the 116655 and I felt that I wanted something a bit more "tool watch" like. The 5167R is great if its to be a dress watch but at the end of the day i swapped a brown look for black and put some cash towards a Journe
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Old 11 February 2016, 07:46 PM   #10
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The 5167R looks amazing in person. I know in the past you have stated pieces on a leather strap arent for you so your choices are somewhat limited. Focus on the 5712 and then see what comes out in the next year or two. I would not be in any rush to add a 3rd piece. The CE diver is awesome and can cover your casual and sport needs and the 5712 is very versatile and can also be dressed up
Well for me if something comes out from PP it will be March 17th this year, it's the 40th of the Nautilus so…

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You keep going on about the 5712 every minute and getting that back so why dont you focus on that instead of another one?? Just my opinion !!! :-)
Well because I am getting it back, that's not an issue, but I will get it back in 3-5 months, and will have cash for a whole lot more and would really like adding a 3rd watch, the 5712 is not like getting a new one, it's more or less like if you gave your watch for service and you get it back, when I'm going to have the cash I will want to have a new piece, and I've liked the 5167R for very long...

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I'm not a fan of precious metal sports watches. The case, the strap and dial are all very casual in the 5167 - it makes sense as a steel sports watch but not as a precious metal piece.

For that money I'd look at a rose gold annual calendar 5205R- this to me is what a rose gold Patek should look like.

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It's a beauty just again dress watches are not for me, well there is a huge number of sport watches in RG, ROlex, AP, RM, the list is long, basically every sport watch comes in SS and RG nowadays, and I am not a fan of the SS version but really like the RG

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I had the same isue but went for the Rolex 116655. I love the aquanauts but it was more than the 116655 and I felt that I wanted something a bit more "tool watch" like. The 5167R is great if its to be a dress watch but at the end of the day i swapped a brown look for black and put some cash towards a Journe
I really have no interest in Rolex watches anymore, had 3 SS Rolex and 1 RG on strap, the 116515, I find the 5167R much more appealing to me
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Old 11 February 2016, 08:05 PM   #11
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Well sounds like you will have so much cash soon you can buy all of here a Patek also.. Hahaha.. Look fwd to seeing your incomings very soon finally.. Good luck :-)
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I think the 5712A and an 5167R are perfect pair ,basically both are great for almost every attire and the WR of Aquanaut enough for some nautiical experience if you wish and dare to bring such an expensive piece in the sea.Also I find those two are different enough in apparance and having very good resale value -I assume you will buy it both w. discount-.
so, just go for it.
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Old 11 February 2016, 09:59 PM   #13
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The 5205 has always interested me. However with your comment about waiting until March 17 to see if anything special will be done for the Nautilus has some great merit!
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Old 11 February 2016, 11:22 PM   #14
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Well sounds like you will have so much cash soon you can buy all of here a Patek also.. Hahaha.. Look fwd to seeing your incomings very soon finally.. Good luck :-)
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Old 12 February 2016, 12:23 AM   #15
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I might also consider the 5711r Even though that would be two Nautilus's, they are completely different.
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Old 12 February 2016, 12:54 AM   #16
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I've tried many times but I could never get on board with the Aquanaut. I've learned that if you have any reservations (anything, at all) it's best to wait. Sometimes that may mean years. But are you really in a hurry? If so and don't mind losing some money trying and flipping give the Aqua a shot. Personally, I think you need to pass and wait for something to come out that you really love--use your passion for the 5712 as a litmus for the next purchase.
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Old 12 February 2016, 02:37 AM   #17
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It's your money, but I wouldn't try to talk myself into or convince myself of a 40k purchase.

You seem to stress very much about these purchases. I picture you up at night in a cold sweat looking at various pictures trying to pick a third watch. Just relax and let it come to you.
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Old 12 February 2016, 02:44 AM   #18
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It's your money, but I wouldn't try to talk myself into or convince myself of a 40k purchase.

You seem to stress very much about these purchases. I picture you up at night in a cold sweat looking at various pictures trying to pick a third watch. Just relax and let it come to you.
This is exactly my thoughts...I sense an urgent need to pick that 3rd now but I see no reason why the OP should rush
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Old 12 February 2016, 03:03 AM   #19
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I think it works but plenty of choices with a 40k budget.
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Old 12 February 2016, 03:10 AM   #20
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Old 12 February 2016, 04:00 AM   #21
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If you want a sporty watch in RG, the 5711/1R is hard to beat
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Old 12 February 2016, 04:03 AM   #22
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Sure, pick up the 5167R. You've been lusting over it for some time now. If you feel any hesitation, then wait until you're ready. I think the 5167R is gorgeous and this may be my next piece.
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Old 12 February 2016, 04:11 AM   #23
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I say no the 5167. I like your idea of a varied collection, but that's two PP and two rubber straps. With a core three, I'd try and branch out a bit more. I do think a dress watch would be great, but you've said it's not for you.

If it were me, I'd be looking at Rolex. Maybe a Sub, Daytona, or the white gold Pepsi GMT depending on how much you are willing to spend.
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Old 12 February 2016, 04:53 AM   #24
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Commission a piece when you meet Thierry at Basel or talk to your lady friend in the Paris Boutique... 5712R and tell them to order you a RG bracelet but also change out the dial to the blue version on the 5712/1a LOL!!!
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Commission a piece when you meet Thierry at Basel or talk to your lady friend in the Paris Boutique... 5712R and tell them to order you a RG bracelet but also change out the dial to the blue version on the 5712/1a LOL!!!
Now this is a recommendation!
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titanium options for the third metal.
the look is nicely different from either SS or white gold yet may keep you in your comfort zone.
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Commission a piece when you meet Thierry at Basel or talk to your lady friend in the Paris Boutique... 5712R and tell them to order you a RG bracelet but also change out the dial to the blue version on the 5712/1a LOL!!!
of course and interesting idea does anyone have any info what the ballpark cost is too commissioning a piece?
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Gus, We need to consult John Mayer. He was able to commission a RG Bracelet for his 5004. Keep your eyes on the watch 😂😂😂
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I think the 5712A and an 5167R are perfect pair ,basically both are great for almost every attire and the WR of Aquanaut enough for some nautiical experience if you wish and dare to bring such an expensive piece in the sea.Also I find those two are different enough in apparance and having very good resale value -I assume you will buy it both w. discount-.
so, just go for it.
Yes George with a comfortable discount, which means if ever I should want to flip the Aqua I should not loose any cash

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The 5205 has always interested me. However with your comment about waiting until March 17 to see if anything special will be done for the Nautilus has some great merit!
Oh yeah I cn't imagine them not doing anything to it for the 40th, I mean AP did and so will PP I'm sure, only hoping they will at Basel and not later, don't think so though

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Well sounds like you will have so much cash soon you can buy all of here a Patek also.. Hahaha.. Look fwd to seeing your incomings very soon finally.. Good luck :-)
Hahaha, well for the rest I have other plans thanks mate

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I might also consider the 5711r Even though that would be two Nautilus's, they are completely different.
Well in these troubled times we're living, I consider wearing a full gold piece is a little risky, in Paris it's crazy, know a guy who was killed in a car jacking and a few others stabbed, and even in Odessa where it's basically super safe, in 8 years here not a single problem, when you see the crisis thanks to the pro western government, they already had problems before, we just made them much worse for them, it's better not to take chances, even the chief of police told me this, and he's like this huge bald guy you wouldn't want to f… with, so me? no thanks

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I've tried many times but I could never get on board with the Aquanaut. I've learned that if you have any reservations (anything, at all) it's best to wait. Sometimes that may mean years. But are you really in a hurry? If so and don't mind losing some money trying and flipping give the Aqua a shot. Personally, I think you need to pass and wait for something to come out that you really love--use your passion for the 5712 as a litmus for the next purchase.
well I won't pay retail so will probably loose nothing if I flip, and I've been eyeing one for a long time, don't see any other new piece I'd want more, the 5712 is not a new piece as I had it 2 months ago...

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It's your money, but I wouldn't try to talk myself into or convince myself of a 40k purchase.

You seem to stress very much about these purchases. I picture you up at night in a cold sweat looking at various pictures trying to pick a third watch. Just relax and let it come to you.
WOW 40K? where do you guys buy em? I should get it at 28-30 depending on the euro dollar exchange rate and I do mean in dollars when I say those prices… LOL no I'm not up at night sweating, but a little nervous sure.
Well I went through the buy and sell phase, even got 3 or 4 in a month one time, and I got tired of that and realized there aren't so many watches I really like and now when I buy something I want it to be well thought as I would like it to be a keeper, not buy and sell 3 months later, the AP and 5712 won't go anywhere, and would really like the 5167R also to stay, I tend to get very attached to my favorite watches, had good reasons to flip the 5712 but miss it everyday, even thought I could be a 1 watch guy at some point but nope too hard, need 2-4 but not more, have a feeling 3 watches is perfect for me

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This is exactly my thoughts...I sense an urgent need to pick that 3rd now but I see no reason why the OP should rush
Because when I get it it'll be basically 1 year I haven't gotten any new piece, and again the 5712 is not new, now 1 year that's years I haven't waited so long to get a new one

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I think it works but plenty of choices with a 40k budget.
Again how do you guys come up with 40K? in euros it's retail 30K, I'm getting at least 17% off, so with actual exchange I can't understand these 40K

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It's a beauty Neil but would not feel comfortable wearing it

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Again full gold so no

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Sure, pick up the 5167R. You've been lusting over it for some time now. If you feel any hesitation, then wait until you're ready. I think the 5167R is gorgeous and this may be my next piece.
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I say no the 5167. I like your idea of a varied collection, but that's two PP and two rubber straps. With a core three, I'd try and branch out a bit more. I do think a dress watch would be great, but you've said it's not for you.

If it were me, I'd be looking at Rolex. Maybe a Sub, Daytona, or the white gold Pepsi GMT depending on how much you are willing to spend.
Had 4 ROlex, lost all love for them

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Commission a piece when you meet Thierry at Basel or talk to your lady friend in the Paris Boutique... 5712R and tell them to order you a RG bracelet but also change out the dial to the blue version on the 5712/1a LOL!!!
LOL now that should be really cheap, I think I'll try that and have someone film how they throw me out of the PP stand

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the look is nicely different from either SS or white gold yet may keep you in your comfort zone.
Well it's nice but don't see a single piece in TI I would ilke to have

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of course and interesting idea does anyone have any info what the ballpark cost is too commissioning a piece?
oh I'd say for a simple one around 300-500K if it's already made in different metals and they just need to make the same one in a different way, of course a PT 5712 with the blue of the 5711P, now that would be amazing, weigh a ton and cost an harm but be amazing, now for a totally new watch I can't even imagine, a fortune I would think
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Gus, We need to consult John Mayer. He was able to commission a RG Bracelet for his 5004. Keep your eyes on the watch 😂😂😂
Who's the girl? Saw her before but don't know who she is. She has a little Adams family feel, but she does have serious assets
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