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Cam4034 · 3 December 2016, 11:44 AM

I was looking to trade my dj to a jeweler for a used submariner. I noticed at 6 o'clock it has ticks above "Swiss made". Redial/service dial/fake?

Hodog16 · 3 December 2016, 11:51 AM

Hmm that's strange. I'm used to seeing four or five ticks under the words.

Lol-x · 3 December 2016, 11:54 AM

Looks fake to me, and the writing on the dial is sliver instead of white

But I don't know much, so don't rely on what I say.

jmolsberg · 3 December 2016, 11:57 AM

No bueno...

Evad3 · 3 December 2016, 12:02 PM

Text on the dial and the date looks funky to me

Watchgeek5000 · 3 December 2016, 12:04 PM

Whether it's real or not, that bracelet has some issues for sure, the 12:00 side has damaged links. I'm sure it's saging really bad.

Maybelline · 3 December 2016, 12:19 PM

I don't like it either.

southcarolina1801 · 3 December 2016, 01:25 PM

This watch has fake written all over it, run don't walk

Sublover2166 · 3 December 2016, 02:13 PM

Walk away from that one. Does not look good.

Rocket_Man · 3 December 2016, 02:29 PM

That watch just looks off. There are several things wrong with the dial without getting into too much detail.

ilovewatchestoo · 3 December 2016, 04:13 PM

Also consider never going back to that jeweler for anything.

Cam4034 · 4 December 2016, 03:13 AM

Is there a chance it might just be the dial? Isn't it illegal for them to sell it let alone have it in their window? It's one of the largest jewlers in philly

Cam4034 · 4 December 2016, 03:26 AM

It's just that I'm in a situation where I had bought a watch from them originally, got it authenticated and everything, got nearly a 2tct bezel from them and they are willing to give me by far the best trade in. The watch I originally bought was authenticated and diamonds as well but other stores give me maybe 1/4 the trade in that they do. I could sell it online or independent for what they are giving me or more but it just sketches me out dealing with the idea of being able to get scammed for that much.

cajunron · 4 December 2016, 03:42 AM

The general consensus is correct. Watch looks suspect.

HeartRolex · 4 December 2016, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam4034

Is there a chance it might just be the dial? Isn't it illegal for them to sell it let alone have it in their window? It's one of the largest jewlers in philly

There are all sorts of issues with this watch dial and bracelet so at the least jeweler should have acknowledged that there are non-OEM parts. It doesn't sound like they did this, so you should probably avoid dealing with them on a pre-owned Rolex. Remember wise words of the forum..."buy the seller not the watch".

crowncollection · 4 December 2016, 06:49 AM

Pass

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usrudiver932 · 4 December 2016, 08:17 AM

Pearl is wrong on crown on dial funky

GLADIATOR · 4 December 2016, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by usrudiver932

Pearl is wrong on crown on dial funky

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michael067 · 4 December 2016, 09:44 AM

Sublover2166 · 4 December 2016, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam4034

It's just that I'm in a situation where I had bought a watch from them originally, got it authenticated and everything, got nearly a 2tct bezel from them and they are willing to give me by far the best trade in. The watch I originally bought was authenticated and diamonds as well but other stores give me maybe 1/4 the trade in that they do. I could sell it online or independent for what they are giving me or more but it just sketches me out dealing with the idea of being able to get scammed for that much.

Contact one of the well known sellers here in the FS section of the forum. Work out a fair deal to trade your DJ for a genuine Sub. That Sub you are looking at is suspect, and I question the integrity of the jeweler attempting to sell it. Most sellers here will work for you and source you a watch that you will be happy with. If you would like references feel free to PM me.

freefly · 6 December 2016, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cam4034

It's just that I'm in a situation where I had bought a watch from them originally, got it authenticated and everything

If they are trying to pass that Submariner off as legit, I'd be curious to see pics of the DJ they originally sold you.

superstarmar · 6 December 2016, 07:35 PM

Look at other options ... this sub just doesn't
look right ... At best it's a Frankenstein and even
then it's not worth it ...

Like others have said look into contacting one of the
Trusted Sellers here on TRF... in any case , I would run
not walk ... I'm speaking from past experience...

Cam4034 · 6 December 2016, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by freefly

If they are trying to pass that Submariner off as legit, I'd be curious to see pics of the DJ they originally sold you.

I just kind of spontaneously got it 2 months ago or so and then fell in love with Rolex. Now I wish I was slightly informed before making a purchase but that's just me being dumb.

usrudiver932 · 7 December 2016, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

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Pearl seems odd and crown on dial funky??? Spellcheck

Mod: wrong thread my oops

TimeToGo · 7 December 2016, 08:44 AM

Did you check the reference numbers?

Knappo 1307 · 7 December 2016, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam4034

Is there a chance it might just be the dial? Isn't it illegal for them to sell it let alone have it in their window? It's one of the largest jewlers in philly

Are they sellers on here?

usrudiver932 · 7 December 2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

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Spellcheck..... pearl looks wrong and crown looks funky on dial

onkyo · 7 December 2016, 02:19 PM

Original sub is fake.

freefly · 7 December 2016, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam4034

I just kind of spontaneously got it 2 months ago or so and then fell in love with Rolex. Now I wish I was slightly informed before making a purchase but that's just me being dumb.

Trust me, you wouldn't be the first to find out after the fact (too late) that your Rolex is not 100% original and/or a complete Franken. Sadly, that seems to be the rule, and not the exception these days (especially with online/eBay offerings).
Just like countless others, it looks like the dealer you are using has a thing for ruining perfectly good (or clapped-out) Rolexes with aftermarket/fake dials & bezels (the DJ included). They could have at least re-lumed the hands during the dial swap, lol.

3 December 2016, 11:54 AM	#3
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,245	Looks fake to me, and the writing on the dial is sliver instead of white But I don't know much, so don't rely on what I say. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

3 December 2016, 12:02 PM	#5
Evad3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Dave Location: Portsmouth, UK Watch: 14060m/216570 Posts: 773	Text on the dial and the date looks funky to me __________________ Current: NOS 14060m , 216570 Polar Previous: 116710BLNR, 114060, 2x NOS 14060m

4 December 2016, 03:42 AM	#14
cajunron 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,853	The general consensus is correct. Watch looks suspect. __________________

4 December 2016, 06:49 AM	#16
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Pass Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

3 December 2016, 11:51 AM	#2
Hodog16 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: NC Watch: RG Olive DD40 Posts: 1,711	Hmm that's strange. I'm used to seeing four or five ticks under the words.

3 December 2016, 11:57 AM	#4
jmolsberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Jan-Michael Location: Fort Worth Watch: ROLEX Posts: 423	No bueno...

3 December 2016, 12:04 PM	#6
Watchgeek5000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Brooklyn USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 1,622	Whether it's real or not, that bracelet has some issues for sure, the 12:00 side has damaged links. I'm sure it's saging really bad.

3 December 2016, 12:19 PM	#7
Maybelline Banned Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Gone Posts: 448	I don't like it either.

3 December 2016, 01:25 PM	#8
southcarolina1801 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Peach State Posts: 734	This watch has fake written all over it, run don't walk

3 December 2016, 02:13 PM	#9
Sublover2166 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: John Location: Manassas,Virginia Watch: Ol'Bluesy & Hulk Posts: 2,871	Walk away from that one. Does not look good.

3 December 2016, 02:29 PM	#10
Rocket_Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,328	That watch just looks off. There are several things wrong with the dial without getting into too much detail.

3 December 2016, 04:13 PM	#11
ilovewatchestoo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Eric Location: California Watch: 114060 Posts: 425	Also consider never going back to that jeweler for anything.

4 December 2016, 03:13 AM	#12
Cam4034 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 43	Is there a chance it might just be the dial? Isn't it illegal for them to sell it let alone have it in their window? It's one of the largest jewlers in philly

4 December 2016, 03:26 AM	#13
Cam4034 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 43	It's just that I'm in a situation where I had bought a watch from them originally, got it authenticated and everything, got nearly a 2tct bezel from them and they are willing to give me by far the best trade in. The watch I originally bought was authenticated and diamonds as well but other stores give me maybe 1/4 the trade in that they do. I could sell it online or independent for what they are giving me or more but it just sketches me out dealing with the idea of being able to get scammed for that much.

4 December 2016, 08:17 AM	#17
usrudiver932 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Larry B Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 207	Pearl is wrong on crown on dial funky

4 December 2016, 09:44 AM	#19
michael067 Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Mike Location: Las Vegas Watch: TT DJ 16233 Posts: 1,002

6 December 2016, 07:35 PM	#22
superstarmar Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: In Motion Watch: my wrist presence Posts: 7,436	Look at other options ... this sub just doesn't look right ... At best it's a Frankenstein and even then it's not worth it ... Like others have said look into contacting one of the Trusted Sellers here on TRF... in any case , I would run not walk ... I'm speaking from past experience...

7 December 2016, 08:44 AM	#25
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,594	Did you check the reference numbers?

7 December 2016, 02:19 PM	#28
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Original sub is fake.

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