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Old 9 September 2011, 12:11 PM   #1
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Another single red sub

considering this:















3,025,XXX serial , MARK IV?

neither been polished nor serviced by an RSC.

no papers

Experts, any help please?

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Old 9 September 2011, 01:40 PM   #2
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That is a nice Red Sub...congratulations. Hard to tell from the pics, but I'm guessing it is a Mk VI dial with closed 6's versus the Mk IV open and MkV semi-open 6. The case looks nice with thick lugs and crown guards.
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Old 9 September 2011, 01:45 PM   #3
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open 6

i looked at the dial closely, it's open 6
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Old 9 September 2011, 02:34 PM   #4
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Your dial is a Mk V dial with semi-open 6's. Look at the "L" in Rolex under the coronet as well as the centering of the letters in CHRONOMETER and CERTIFIED. Hope this helps.
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Old 9 September 2011, 07:22 PM   #5
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Beaumont is right, its definitely a Mark V.

Coronet shape, L placement, and darker red paint.

Good matching patina on dial and hands.

What's the serial? Correct range should be from around 1971-72 (give or take a year).
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Old 9 September 2011, 07:28 PM   #6
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3,025,xxx serial. Beaumont sees a blemish in the 5 & 7 o'clock hash marks so the dial is not that perfect.

would you if you were me? my birth year is 1971.:)
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Old 9 September 2011, 08:44 PM   #7
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Correct serial for a Mark V putting it at 1971. Yes, I see that there are chips on the edge of the dial but this is to be expected on a 40 year old watch as the movement and dial have come off several times for service. Don't we have blemishes at 40 ;-)

There are perfect examples out there though if you are patient enough.

It all depends on what you are looking for: A pristine example to collect? A daily wearer? Is it reasonably priced for the condition? What is the condition of the case (from what I gather on the pics it looks good)? What about the bracelet? Is it in good shape? What is the clasp code (to identify if it is the correct year)? Service records? Box? Papers?

I fully understand wanting a watch from one's birth year. This is an irrational criteria that makes a certain watch more desirable.
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Old 10 September 2011, 01:09 AM   #8
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Nice piece.
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Old 10 September 2011, 10:12 PM   #9
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Tough decision to make. Should I get this piece? Hmm....


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Old 10 September 2011, 11:28 PM   #10
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Looks like a nice watch.

However if your having doubts don't do the deal.

Only get those that you are convinced are right for you.

You'll be happier in the long run.
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Old 11 September 2011, 06:35 AM   #11
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looks like a great watch, love the patina
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Old 11 September 2011, 06:44 AM   #12
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be careful before spending this kind of money. you really need to know the dates/serial number sequence cold. then figure out which dial (mk xxx) should be in the case. from what i have read, you could end up iwth an incorrect watch quite easily.
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Old 11 September 2011, 02:09 PM   #13
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Correct serial for a Mark V putting it at 1971. Yes, I see that there are chips on the edge of the dial but this is to be expected on a 40 year old watch as the movement and dial have come off several times for service. Don't we have blemishes at 40 ;-)

There are perfect examples out there though if you are patient enough.

It all depends on what you are looking for: A pristine example to collect? A daily wearer? Is it reasonably priced for the condition? What is the condition of the case (from what I gather on the pics it looks good)? What about the bracelet? Is it in good shape? What is the clasp code (to identify if it is the correct year)? Service records? Box? Papers?

I fully understand wanting a watch from one's birth year. This is an irrational criteria that makes a certain watch more desirable.
the bracelet code is 93150
i had the back case opened and there's a mark "III 71", the inside is very clean

i want a weekend beater, a special occasion watch.
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Old 11 September 2011, 11:14 PM   #14
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another example!

now i'm confused.

can you tell me if this:

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...04#msg_5834947

is far far better than the one I posted?

help!
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Old 12 September 2011, 01:30 AM   #15
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I confused as well...LOL. I would say that both of these watches are too nice to be considered weekend beaters.
When it comes to feet first Red Subs, I am a little partial to the ones with open "6's"...Mk IV dials. I think the second watch presents a little nicer than the first, however, I will be the first to admit that pics of the second watch are far superior to the pics of the first and may cause some bias.
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Old 12 September 2011, 01:47 AM   #16
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Agree John!
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Old 12 September 2011, 03:06 AM   #17
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I never get bored of seeing this sub
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Old 12 September 2011, 07:13 AM   #18
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now i'm confused.

can you tell me if this:

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...04#msg_5834947

is far far better than the one I posted?

help!
This is listed FS here as well
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Old 12 September 2011, 07:19 AM   #19
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IMHO - I like the lugs & the bezel on your first post....
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