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MP5 · 8 May 2013, 07:12 AM

Vrf criticism isn't warranted. They don't allow ugly bashfests but make sure the factual info is available.

tonbr · 8 May 2013, 11:17 AM

Well, IMHO, I think the whole story Steve comes up with stinks. And I must say I'm glad I found the info regarding him before I got into my thoughts about buying an expensive watch.

964RS · 8 May 2013, 07:39 PM

Just FYI his last post on facebook is on 3rd of May where someone is chasing him for their missing parts and he replies...

"I'm so sorry my friend.. They installed the computer in my office this morning And connected the Internet.. I've been trying to work off my phone for weeks and it would not post on forums or check my emails.. Because you know she smashed up all my computers and everything..it's been hell.
By Tuesday I should be all caught up with emails And will begin shipping out items that are behind.
Email me Tuesday and I'll let you know what day exactly it'll be on its way."

Then there is a post just now from the original guy saying where is it then?

I think there is good reason to be very concerned here if you have paid for something and not received it or he has your watch/parts. It looks like a lot of the stuff Steve sold was on consignment from other dealers. If that is the case and a lot of this has been stolen by his ex and it is not insured he could owe a significant amount.

The computer problems and not being able to reply to emails or post on forums using his phone sounds like a cover up for simply being in too deep and not knowing how to get out of it all.

In addition there is a post the same day stating....

"So if your not going to take responsibility of your newborn daughter. Let us until your wife gets the help she need. This way here the baby will be with family and not strangers"

and he replies...
"Excuse me?
I would love to take care of the baby,but you tell me how someone can take care of a newborn and save a business which has had over half of its stock stolen?"

Sounds like he's got a lot of problems. Hope he works through them all and everyone here and this newborn child are all ok.

Not sure this helps but thought I'd share as it may explain some things??

DSJ · 8 May 2013, 11:45 PM

What a mess...

SLS · 9 May 2013, 10:14 AM

Wow, sad to hear...I had a few transactions in the distant past that went well. But after reading this, it does not sound good.
Scott

RolexSmile · 9 May 2013, 01:41 PM

that dude is a straight shooter and has litterally saved my behind from being ripped off three times with fake watches.
i havent talked to him in a couple of months but if you sent him your watch you will get paid.But I have to tell you,it doesnt make much sense to start trouble for a known dealer who is financially connected to their rep..your making it next to impossible for him to earn your $$..
also,everyone has to remember..a dealer who is good eventually will no longer have to post on forums..they have a select clientel that deals with them regularly and refers other clients..I never see shear or ku post anymore..do any of you.
I have never heard anything but positive remarks until this fiasco with his wife or her boyfriend ripping him off.
until he shows me different I would still bend over backwards to help him in anyway i could.
Steve-o if you read this,call me brother..I may want to invest in your comeback!

nch209 · 9 May 2013, 02:45 PM

This is very troublesome. I've dealt with Steve many years ago with great results, but things went downhill about 2 years ago when I bought a band from him- it was a mess! He was very rude and defensive about it, and I chalked it up as a loss. Interestingly enough, he recently replied to an email several years after I sent it!!!! Who does that???? I wish him the best, but no longer wish to deal with him. Ever since his A.D., things went downhill fast.

Best of luck dhh, and be sure to keep us posted!
Nate

dhh · 9 May 2013, 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=RolexSmile;4140596]that dude is a straight shooter and has litterally saved my behind from being ripped off three times with fake watches.
i havent talked to him in a couple of months but if you sent him your watch you will get paid.But I have to tell you,it doesnt make much sense to start trouble for a known dealer who is financially connected to their rep..your making it next to impossible for him to earn your $$..
also,everyone has to remember..a dealer who is good eventually will no longer have to post on forums..they have a select clientel that deals with them regularly and refers other clients..I never see shear or ku post anymore..do any of you.
I have never heard anything but positive remarks until this fiasco with his wife or her boyfriend ripping him off.
until he shows me different I would still bend over backwards to help him in anyway i could.
Steve-o if you read this,call me brother..I may want to invest in your comeback![/QUOTE

Why don't you finance his comeback by sending me the $15,000 he owes me?

tudorluv · 9 May 2013, 10:52 PM

A very good reason why watch dealers should have a good insurance policy. A deciding factor in feeling comfortable with a dealer for one of my purchases was in knowing that my humble Tudor watch in transit was covered by none other than Lloyds of London. I also let my local AD handle all my RSC services because their insurance covers me all for $25. No sleepless nights worrying about watches in transit not under my control. Hope it all ends well for everyone.

FNFZ4 · 10 May 2013, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

i don't hope he doesn't pick watch parts like he picks his women

true statement

smith one · 10 May 2013, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexSmile

that dude is a straight shooter and has litterally saved my behind from being ripped off three times with fake watches.
i havent talked to him in a couple of months but if you sent him your watch you will get paid.But I have to tell you,it doesnt make much sense to start trouble for a known dealer who is financially connected to their rep..your making it next to impossible for him to earn your $$..
also,everyone has to remember..a dealer who is good eventually will no longer have to post on forums..they have a select clientel that deals with them regularly and refers other clients..I never see shear or ku post anymore..do any of you.
I have never heard anything but positive remarks until this fiasco with his wife or her boyfriend ripping him off.
until he shows me different I would still bend over backwards to help him in anyway i could.
Steve-o if you read this,call me brother..I may want to invest in your comeback!

C'mon really? RolexSmile has one post and is singing the praises
of this guy. The post is an attempt by Steve's buddy to do some
'damage control' online.

Way to be subtle.

Smith one

Knappo 1307 · 11 May 2013, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexSmile

that dude is a straight shooter and has litterally saved my behind from being ripped off three times with fake watches.
i havent talked to him in a couple of months but if you sent him your watch you will get paid.But I have to tell you,it doesnt make much sense to start trouble for a known dealer who is financially connected to their rep..your making it next to impossible for him to earn your $$..
also,everyone has to remember..a dealer who is good eventually will no longer have to post on forums..they have a select clientel that deals with them regularly and refers other clients..I never see shear or ku post anymore..do any of you.
I have never heard anything but positive remarks until this fiasco with his wife or her boyfriend ripping him off.
until he shows me different I would still bend over backwards to help him in anyway i could.
Steve-o if you read this,call me brother..I may want to invest in your comeback!

This smells of complete

mannyv11 · 11 May 2013, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

This smells of complete

x3,

TempoKing · 11 May 2013, 09:15 AM

Steve is not MIA...just trying to re-start his messy life... with that said
he should have taken care... of your DRSD business first.

In my opinion he will soon start making money again.
Hopefully by now he has teamed up with a serious vintage Rolex trader
and he will do well again....this way all his bad money/watch dealings
will be corrected....he just needs time.

The 18 year old young girl-friend who took him literally to the "cleaners"
is now in jail - but no money or missing watches were recovered..he was rather
devastated with her betrayal for awhile...but he has pulled himself together.

Kringkily · 11 May 2013, 11:32 AM

Interesting :popcorn:

sleddog · 11 May 2013, 11:50 AM

This thread has moved beyond it's expiry date....

It's such a shame that a well standing member of the watch world, can not once, twice, three times, and now 4, continue an establishment of watch/parts sales with the integrity he started out.
To many current(and past), discrepancy's have not only soured this individual, but justified his removal from TRF.

8 May 2013, 11:17 AM	#62
tonbr "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Tony Brandt Location: Sweden Watch: 116509, 79280 Posts: 61	Well, IMHO, I think the whole story Steve comes up with stinks. And I must say I'm glad I found the info regarding him before I got into my thoughts about buying an expensive watch. __________________ Cheers , and remember, the best way to predict the future, is to create it. Tony

8 May 2013, 11:45 PM	#64
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	What a mess... __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

9 May 2013, 10:14 AM	#65
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	Wow, sad to hear...I had a few transactions in the distant past that went well. But after reading this, it does not sound good. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

9 May 2013, 02:45 PM	#67
nch209 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Nathan Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 2,775	This is very troublesome. I've dealt with Steve many years ago with great results, but things went downhill about 2 years ago when I bought a band from him- it was a mess! He was very rude and defensive about it, and I chalked it up as a loss. Interestingly enough, he recently replied to an email several years after I sent it!!!! Who does that???? I wish him the best, but no longer wish to deal with him. Ever since his A.D., things went downhill fast. Best of luck dhh, and be sure to keep us posted! Nate __________________ nch209

9 May 2013, 08:51 PM	#68
dhh "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NE Posts: 421	[QUOTE=RolexSmile;4140596]that dude is a straight shooter and has litterally saved my behind from being ripped off three times with fake watches. i havent talked to him in a couple of months but if you sent him your watch you will get paid.But I have to tell you,it doesnt make much sense to start trouble for a known dealer who is financially connected to their rep..your making it next to impossible for him to earn your $$.. also,everyone has to remember..a dealer who is good eventually will no longer have to post on forums..they have a select clientel that deals with them regularly and refers other clients..I never see shear or ku post anymore..do any of you. I have never heard anything but positive remarks until this fiasco with his wife or her boyfriend ripping him off. until he shows me different I would still bend over backwards to help him in anyway i could. Steve-o if you read this,call me brother..I may want to invest in your comeback![/QUOTE Why don't you finance his comeback by sending me the $15,000 he owes me? __________________ By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail. -- Benjamin Franklin

8 May 2013, 07:12 AM	#61
MP5 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 2,881	Vrf criticism isn't warranted. They don't allow ugly bashfests but make sure the factual info is available.

8 May 2013, 07:39 PM	#63
964RS "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jason Graham Location: UK Watch: Something vintage. Posts: 304	Just FYI his last post on facebook is on 3rd of May where someone is chasing him for their missing parts and he replies... "I'm so sorry my friend.. They installed the computer in my office this morning And connected the Internet.. I've been trying to work off my phone for weeks and it would not post on forums or check my emails.. Because you know she smashed up all my computers and everything..it's been hell. By Tuesday I should be all caught up with emails And will begin shipping out items that are behind. Email me Tuesday and I'll let you know what day exactly it'll be on its way." Then there is a post just now from the original guy saying where is it then? I think there is good reason to be very concerned here if you have paid for something and not received it or he has your watch/parts. It looks like a lot of the stuff Steve sold was on consignment from other dealers. If that is the case and a lot of this has been stolen by his ex and it is not insured he could owe a significant amount. The computer problems and not being able to reply to emails or post on forums using his phone sounds like a cover up for simply being in too deep and not knowing how to get out of it all. In addition there is a post the same day stating.... "So if your not going to take responsibility of your newborn daughter. Let us until your wife gets the help she need. This way here the baby will be with family and not strangers" and he replies... "Excuse me? I would love to take care of the baby,but you tell me how someone can take care of a newborn and save a business which has had over half of its stock stolen?" Sounds like he's got a lot of problems. Hope he works through them all and everyone here and this newborn child are all ok. Not sure this helps but thought I'd share as it may explain some things??

9 May 2013, 01:41 PM	#66
RolexSmile "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: St.Pete Beach Posts: 1	that dude is a straight shooter and has litterally saved my behind from being ripped off three times with fake watches. i havent talked to him in a couple of months but if you sent him your watch you will get paid.But I have to tell you,it doesnt make much sense to start trouble for a known dealer who is financially connected to their rep..your making it next to impossible for him to earn your $$.. also,everyone has to remember..a dealer who is good eventually will no longer have to post on forums..they have a select clientel that deals with them regularly and refers other clients..I never see shear or ku post anymore..do any of you. I have never heard anything but positive remarks until this fiasco with his wife or her boyfriend ripping him off. until he shows me different I would still bend over backwards to help him in anyway i could. Steve-o if you read this,call me brother..I may want to invest in your comeback!

9 May 2013, 10:52 PM	#69
tudorluv "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Erich Location: -5 Posts: 742	A very good reason why watch dealers should have a good insurance policy. A deciding factor in feeling comfortable with a dealer for one of my purchases was in knowing that my humble Tudor watch in transit was covered by none other than Lloyds of London. I also let my local AD handle all my RSC services because their insurance covers me all for $25. No sleepless nights worrying about watches in transit not under my control. Hope it all ends well for everyone.

11 May 2013, 09:15 AM	#74
TempoKing Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Anastasios Location: Athens Greece Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 8,497	Steve is not MIA...just trying to re-start his messy life... with that said he should have taken care... of your DRSD business first. In my opinion he will soon start making money again. Hopefully by now he has teamed up with a serious vintage Rolex trader and he will do well again....this way all his bad money/watch dealings will be corrected....he just needs time. The 18 year old young girl-friend who took him literally to the "cleaners" is now in jail - but no money or missing watches were recovered..he was rather devastated with her betrayal for awhile...but he has pulled himself together.

11 May 2013, 11:32 AM	#75
Kringkily "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: George Location: New York Watch: Speedmaster, Rolex Posts: 3,082	Interesting :popcorn:

11 May 2013, 11:50 AM	#76
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,905	This thread has moved beyond it's expiry date.... It's such a shame that a well standing member of the watch world, can not once, twice, three times, and now 4, continue an establishment of watch/parts sales with the integrity he started out. To many current(and past), discrepancy's have not only soured this individual, but justified his removal from TRF. __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

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