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Old 30 August 2014, 02:49 AM   #1
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Help me see the AP light

I've been away from these forum's for awhile , and only just started getting back into them.

This week I picked up patek a/c and sub c lv.

I just come back from long holiday where I just took my g shock and when came back I wasnt feeling the AP magic anymore.

At moment I have the 15400ST and Bumble Bee .
I'm thinking the sub lv takes care of my colourful fetish so do I need the bee anymore as well i not looking at growing my watch collection size wise.

Also although not that old I find myself prefering watches witch are no bigger then the 40mm mark and not happy with 41mm size of the 15400 anymore . Apart from the my AP's I only have Pam 233 bigger then 40mm now.

I very close to selling off both my AP's and think the only watch that may keep with an AP now is 15202 jumbo.

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Old 30 August 2014, 03:10 AM   #2
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The 15202 sounds like a great option for you. Smaller, different color and Genta design.
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Old 30 August 2014, 04:06 AM   #3
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I understand where you are coming from, I too had larger 44/5mm watches but now I prefer a more elegant, slimmer 40-42mm so I think the Jumbo is the ideal watch for you now. Try that on with a 5711 and see how they compare to you before making a final Genta choice.
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Old 30 August 2014, 04:07 AM   #4
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Definitely get the Jumbo. Sounds perfect based on what you've said.
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Old 30 August 2014, 04:13 AM   #5
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Interesting I don't find the 15400 to wear a lot larger than the sub c. I do feel the same about larger, heavier wrist wear though!

If you want a smaller, slimmer RO with great history. The 15202 is the ticket!
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Old 30 August 2014, 04:57 AM   #6
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I've been wearing my AP Annual Calendar (36mm) since I got it this weeks monday. Put on the Diver today, and I honestly felt like a clown.... You know... Clowns having clothes too big.

36-39mm is really the optimum size.

I love my diver, but would love it more if it was 39mm.

Best part... 36mm AP's can be snatched very cheap at the moment. I like it.
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Old 30 August 2014, 02:10 PM   #7
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I've been wearing my AP Annual Calendar (36mm) since I got it this weeks monday. Put on the Diver today, and I honestly felt like a clown.... You know... Clowns having clothes too big.

36-39mm is really the optimum size.

I love my diver, but would love it more if it was 39mm.

Best part... 36mm AP's can be snatched very cheap at the moment. I like it.
36-39mm...until you get the middle aged eyes! When you need reading glasses to tell time...the watch is too small! 2 cents!
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Old 30 August 2014, 03:43 PM   #8
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You might want to wait a bit. You never know, the magic might come back.
15400 is easy to find, but the Bee not so.
Having said that, the Jumbo is definitely a keeper. It has been around for 40+ years and it is still a great modern piece.
Go for it !
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Old 30 August 2014, 04:43 PM   #9
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Old 30 August 2014, 10:13 PM   #10
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I've been wearing my AP Annual Calendar (36mm) since I got it this weeks monday. Put on the Diver today, and I honestly felt like a clown.... You know... Clowns having clothes too big.

36-39mm is really the optimum size.

I love my diver, but would love it more if it was 39mm.

Best part... 36mm AP's can be snatched very cheap at the moment. I like it.
The size of a watch is a personal choice. Anything bigger than 39mm feels clown-like? What is clown like to me are 48 to 50 mm watches. There is a reason 36mm watches are cheap. It's called demand and demand is low. If you're anticipating a resurgence of 36mm watches, good luck. When I put on my FC Diver, it feels small to me! My favourite and most complimented watch is my FC 44m Chrono. Yes it wears fairly large and one day I may gravitate to smaller watches but for my older eyes it works.
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Old 30 August 2014, 11:50 PM   #11
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The size of a watch is a personal choice. Anything bigger than 39mm feels clown-like? What is clown like to me are 48 to 50 mm watches. There is a reason 36mm watches are cheap. It's called demand and demand is low. If you're anticipating a resurgence of 36mm watches, good luck. When I put on my FC Diver, it feels small to me! My favourite and most complimented watch is my FC 44m Chrono. Yes it wears fairly large and one day I may gravitate to smaller watches but for my older eyes it works.
I was just telling my personal opinion mate. Yes Demand is low for 36mm watches, and that suits me perfectly.

I however don't think people wearing big watches are clowns. I just thought I looked like a clown after my eyes adjusting to the 36mm AP.

A reason for me having a feeling that my Diver is slightly too big for me at the moment is me having a normal weight of around 165lbs, I'm at around 150lbs at the moment. Adding 1,80m height to that equation means I'm rather skinny at the moment.
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Old 31 August 2014, 01:00 AM   #12
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Yep Jumbo, I also have a few 44mm pieces, 3 Pams and 1 Blancpain, and I don't like them so much any more, am going to flip them along with others and go from a 10 piece collection to a 3 piece one, I would definitely flip your 2 AP's and get the Jumbo
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Old 31 August 2014, 01:14 AM   #13
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We all have evolving tastes. The 15202 is the best example of AP.
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Old 31 August 2014, 02:05 AM   #14
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We all have evolving tastes. The 15202 is the best example of AP.


Right on Mike, and if I may add, "revolving" tastes. At least I do.
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Old 31 August 2014, 03:50 AM   #15
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Either keep the 15202, or sell both for something you truly like
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Old 31 August 2014, 08:35 AM   #17
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I was just telling my personal opinion mate. Yes Demand is low for 36mm watches, and that suits me perfectly.

I however don't think people wearing big watches are clowns. I just thought I looked like a clown after my eyes adjusting to the 36mm AP.

A reason for me having a feeling that my Diver is slightly too big for me at the moment is me having a normal weight of around 165lbs, I'm at around 150lbs at the moment. Adding 1,80m height to that equation means I'm rather skinny at the moment.
I'm sorry if that's what came across. I meant no offence. The size of watches is a personal thing. My wife likes 38-40mm watches, I bought her a Patek Twenty4 and she never wore it. Said it was too small

For my wrist size and body mass of about 6 feet and 200 lbs and 8 inch wrist 40mm is a minimum. Especially if I don't correct my eyes. That would eat into my watch budget.
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Old 31 August 2014, 05:01 PM   #18
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I'm sorry if that's what came across. I meant no offence. The size of watches is a personal thing. My wife likes 38-40mm watches, I bought her a Patek Twenty4 and she never wore it. Said it was too small

For my wrist size and body mass of about 6 feet and 200 lbs and 8 inch wrist 40mm is a minimum. Especially if I don't correct my eyes. That would eat into my watch budget.

No worries mate.

My wife loves her No-Date sub, and it looks fabulous on her.
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Old 1 September 2014, 07:48 AM   #19
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202 Jumbo.

I also seem to favor the 40mm size, like you i make an exception for my 1 panerai a 000.
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Old 1 September 2014, 02:43 PM   #20
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Just today I had the same thought (same as OP).

I find my 15400 too big, I used to own a 15300 and regret selling it. The problem with the 15400 is only the size but the integrated bracelet and size don't seem to be a good fit for my wrist, a problem I did not have with the 15300

Had thought about flipping it for a Nautilus, but last time I tried on it felt tway too thin and flimsy, will give it another try.

But a 15202 I believe would do the trick for me, we'll see.

I hardly ever wear the 177 anymore, as I too, start to favor smaller watches.
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We don't see many Bees or Pandas or new ROO chronos incoming here, def move towards the ROs in the last year or so.
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We don't see many Bees or Pandas or new ROO chronos incoming here, def move towards the ROs in the last year or so.
Think we have seen quite a few precious metal ROO's incoming (RG for example), but think non-precious has tapered some. I think ROO and RO are two different watches for different occasions. Think they should both be part of a collection.

15202 is a great AP, but very thin, so make sure to try it on if possible.
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Old 3 September 2014, 11:53 PM   #23
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thanks for all you input , I'm keeping the 15400 for now but may look to get the 15202 in the next few months.
Alas I think I will flip the bee , mainly to make room in the watch box for subc lv and pp5146g I picked up last week ..... the plan is only 4 watches plus casio's etc by the end of 2015 ...
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